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I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« on: October 22, 2013, 03:15:26 PM »
Something I have never been able to explain happened to one of my parents horses. The horse was very ill and my parents called various people to cure it but they could not do anything. Eventually in desperation my parents saw a friend who said he knew an Indian guru who healed horses. The guru came and stroked the horse with his hands for about ten minutes then said the horse is cured and asked my parents for money. My parents were not very pleased because the horse was still lying on the ground but they gave the guru the money. The next morning the horse was back on its feet and lived for years afterward. The reason the guru was recommended was because he allegedly had done the same for others.
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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2013, 03:18:44 PM »
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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2013, 03:23:38 PM »
At least two explanations come to mind immediately.

1) The horse had a stomach bug and was practically over it.  (Only those whose horses had recovered did the recommending - others whose horses died were too ashamed to admit they'd fallen for the scam.)

2) The "guru" had some "helpers" administering something to the horse's water for a few days :police:
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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2013, 03:29:04 PM »
At least two explanations come to mind immediately.

1) The horse had a stomach bug and was practically over it.  (Only those whose horses had recovered did the recommending - others whose horses died were too ashamed to admit they'd fallen for the scam.)

2) The "guru" had some "helpers" administering something to the horse's water for a few days :police:

Maybe he could tell the horse would recover. But none of the horse specialists could do anything previously. He certainly had no helpers.
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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2013, 03:29:08 PM »
Maybe we can change our name from "Why Won't God Heal Amputees" to " Why Does God Only Cure Horses".
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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2013, 03:48:19 PM »
Maybe we can change our name from "Why Won't God Heal Amputees" to " Why Does God Only Cure Horses".
Except that it wasn't a horse amputee, you see.

More seriously, I'd be more likely to think that he was fairly good at reading the condition a horse was in.  It's like how a horse-talker - someone who takes the time and effort to learn the body language of horses - can train horses with a fraction of the effort that it takes traditional horse trainers.  This sounds similar, at least in certain respects.  I doubt he did anything to actually heal the horse, though.

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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2013, 04:09:50 PM »
Some people claim Horse Whisperers dont exist, but there's always neigh-sayers.
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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2013, 06:32:25 PM »
Are you suggesting that the horse has a "soul" and it is aware it is being healed?
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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2013, 06:53:39 PM »
2) The "guru" had some "helpers" administering something to the horse's water for a few days :police:

Either before to make it sick or after to make it healthy.


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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2013, 11:08:13 PM »
Most likely explanation is that the guru was channeling Satan and his demons to do this.

The devil has great power and considering it wasn't a Christian doing the healing, the only logical option is demonic powers.
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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2013, 11:44:55 PM »
Most likely explanation is that the guru was channeling Satan and his demons to do this.

The devil has great power and considering it wasn't a Christian doing the healing, the only logical option is demonic powers.
Can Christian faith healers make a deal with the Devil that gives them power to heal Christians? They could profit.....like Ernest Angely and the like.....no?
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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2013, 11:49:46 PM »
Most likely explanation is that the guru was channeling Satan and his demons to do this.

The devil has great power and considering it wasn't a Christian doing the healing, the only logical option is demonic powers.

Are you for real? I'm beginning to think Poe.

If you ARE for real, tell me more about these great powers the devil has and where exactly you got this information. I'm completely serious. I'm just not convinced that YOU are.
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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2013, 12:13:24 AM »
Most likely explanation is that the guru was channeling Satan and his demons to do this.

The devil has great power and considering it wasn't a Christian doing the healing, the only logical option is demonic powers.

Skeptic, you must be feeling kind of lonely with all these demons everywhere.

Cheer up, remember what Jesus said about healings when he was asked if he was working for Satan. If Jesus used that line, so can this guy.

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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2013, 01:01:35 AM »
Are you for real? I'm beginning to think Poe.

If you ARE for real, tell me more about these great powers the devil has and where exactly you got this information. I'm completely serious. I'm just not convinced that YOU are.

I don't know specifically how much power the devil truly has.

All I know is that he inflicted a hell of a lot of evil on Job. He also offered Jesus all the kingdoms of the world and Jesus took him seriously.

If Jesus was convinced of the devil's power, then I would be a fool to disagree with Jesus.
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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2013, 01:06:54 AM »
Skeptic, you must be feeling kind of lonely with all these demons everywhere.

Cheer up, remember what Jesus said about healings when he was asked if he was working for Satan. If Jesus used that line, so can this guy.

Not lonely at all. I can recognize the demons, so I don't fear them.
They tend to stay away from people who have given their lives to Christ because it's a futile effort.
 
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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2013, 01:12:11 AM »
Are you for real? I'm beginning to think Poe.

If you ARE for real, tell me more about these great powers the devil has and where exactly you got this information. I'm completely serious. I'm just not convinced that YOU are.

I don't know specifically how much power the devil truly has.

All I know is that he inflicted a hell of a lot of evil on Job. He also offered Jesus all the kingdoms of the world and Jesus took him seriously.

If Jesus was convinced of the devil's power, then I would be a fool to disagree with Jesus.

That was your god messing with Job.
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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2013, 01:15:33 AM »
Skeptic, you must be feeling kind of lonely with all these demons everywhere.

Cheer up, remember what Jesus said about healings when he was asked if he was working for Satan. If Jesus used that line, so can this guy.

Not lonely at all. I can recognize the demons, so I don't fear them.
They tend to stay away from people who have given their lives to Christ because it's a futile effort.

Am I a demon? How many times do you think I have tried to sell my soul?
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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2013, 01:19:44 AM »
Bullshit. Poe.

If not, someone track this guy down and get him some professional help. But I'm sticking with Poe. Demon recognition skills is just too much.
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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2013, 01:20:14 AM »
Am I a demon? How many times do you think I have tried to sell my soul?

You are not a demon. You are human. Demons are malevolent beings that are in league with Satan. They try to get you to come to their side by tempting you away from Jesus.

You are not a demon, but you are doing their work unintentionally because they have you fooled.
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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2013, 01:22:10 AM »
Bullshit. Poe.

If not, someone track this guy down and get him some professional help. But I'm sticking with Poe. Demon recognition skills is just too much.

Why would I need help?

Are you saying that I can't believe in demons even though the bible mentions them and I believe in the bible?
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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2013, 01:24:11 AM »
Bullshit. Poe.

If not, someone track this guy down and get him some professional help. But I'm sticking with Poe. Demon recognition skills is just too much.

Why would I need help?

Are you saying that I can't believe in demons even though the bible mentions them and I believe in the bible?
No, I'm saying you're a Poe.
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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2013, 01:28:53 AM »
No, I'm saying you're a Poe.

Very sorry you feel that way. I can't do anything about it.

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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2013, 01:31:56 AM »
That was your god messing with Job.

He was merely showing Satan how foolish he was for thinking Job would ever curse God.

The moral of the story is that bad things will happen to us and we have to just bear through it and keep our faith in God.

God doesn't want people who say, "Ouch! Papercut! No God would allow this!" God wants toughened warriors.
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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2013, 01:37:34 AM »
Am I a demon? How many times do you think I have tried to sell my soul?

You are not a demon. You are human. Demons are malevolent beings that are in league with Satan. They try to get you to come to their side by tempting you away from Jesus.

You are not a demon, but you are doing their work unintentionally because they have you fooled.

What am I doing unintentionally?
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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2013, 01:53:32 AM »
What am I doing unintentionally?

Bringing souls away from Christ by preaching atheistic dogma, so to speak.

You don't personally believe that you are bringing souls away form Christ, but that is what I believe you are doing.
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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2013, 02:26:26 AM »
What am I doing unintentionally?

Bringing souls away from Christ by preaching atheistic dogma, so to speak.

You don't personally believe that you are bringing souls away form Christ, but that is what I believe you are doing.

I intentionally support atheism. I know exactly what I am doing. I am pleased that you think I have been successful in "bringing souls away from Christ". Some Christian media have called me a demon and said I have sold my soul to the devil.

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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2013, 04:18:22 AM »
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1) The horse had a stomach bug and was practically over it.  (Only those whose horses had recovered did the recommending - others whose horses died were too ashamed to admit they'd fallen for the scam.)


they can get over colic on their own

edit: I'll expand on this as its a bit of a non answer.
When horses get colic they tend to lie down or roll. it's possible that by chilling the horse out by laying hands on it he stopped the condition from getting worse i.e. from rolling or soothed the horse enough for it to ignore the pain.
http://www.liv.ac.uk/equine/common-conditions/colic/
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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2013, 05:05:05 AM »
Something I have never been able to explain happened to one of my parents horses. The horse was very ill and my parents called various people to cure it but they could not do anything. Eventually in desperation my parents saw a friend who said he knew an Indian guru who healed horses. The guru came and stroked the horse with his hands for about ten minutes then said the horse is cured and asked my parents for money. My parents were not very pleased because the horse was still lying on the ground but they gave the guru the money. The next morning the horse was back on its feet and lived for years afterward. The reason the guru was recommended was because he allegedly had done the same for others.
When a human is sick with an unknown illness doctors do all sorts of exploratory surgery to find the cause.
I'll wager the horse was never taken to a vets and put under anesthetic and operated on. I'll wager also that the horse probably ate something that did not agree with it or even it had being bitten by a bat and was anaemic or had a reaction to poison from an insect.
There are a myriad of reasons the horse could have been sick. That a vet just looking could not tell which.
The so called healer could have seen the symptoms before or not and just said the horse would get well. nothing woo woo about it. Unless your gullible of course.
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Re: I saw an animal healer heal a horse
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2013, 05:26:55 AM »
Most likely explanation is that the guru was channeling Satan and his demons to do this.

The devil has great power and considering it wasn't a Christian doing the healing, the only logical option is demonic powers.

What if all faith healers are actually disciples of satan, and those disciples intentionally made their victims sick just so they could release them from the disease later as an act to impersonate god thereby fooling all christians?

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