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« on: March 11, 2010, 02:03:09 PM »

2 Samuel 6:6-7 states: (KJV)

6:3 And they set the ark of God upon a new cart, and brought it out of the house of Abinadab that [was] in Gibeah: and Uzzah and Ahio, the sons of Abinadab, drave the new cart.

6:4 And they brought it out of the house of Abinadab which [was] at Gibeah, accompanying the ark of God: and Ahio went before the ark.

6:5 And David and all the house of Israel played before the LORD on all manner of [instruments made of] fir wood, even on harps, and on psalteries, and on timbrels, and on cornets, and on cymbals.

6:6 And when they came to Nachon's threshingfloor, Uzzah put forth [his hand] to the ark of God, and took hold of it; for the oxen shook [it].

6:7 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzzah; and God smote him there for [his] error; and there he died by the ark of God.

6:8 And David was displeased, because the LORD had made a breach upon Uzzah: and he called the name of the place Perezuzzah to this day.


So a faithful christian(?) Uzzah didn't want his god's ark to be smashed by falling on the road, and is killed by preventing it. Yet it says he angered god, and anything that angers god probably won't get to heaven, right? Why is smiting god's weapon of choice anyway? Did he not have a better way of evilly punishing poor Uzzah?

Uzzah had no bad intentions in his heart, so why was he punished? Did god send a righteous man to hell?
Furthermore, why would god be so stand offish as to not want his stuff touched.  Isn't that like a Father killing his young son because he touched his TV remote?
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2010, 02:59:23 PM »

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Did god send a righteous man to hell?

Is this why they say the road to hell is paved with good intentions? Does god prefer the smell of righteous burning flesh?
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2010, 03:11:52 PM »

Is that where the term "Uzzah going to hell" came from?
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2010, 02:00:11 PM »

Is this why they say the road to hell is paved with good intentions? Does god prefer the smell of righteous burning flesh?

Hmmm... You may be onto something.
I mean, look at the sacrifices in the OT. The less defects the lamb or animal had, the better potential to be sacrificed. Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2010, 02:04:18 PM »

Hmmm... You may be onto something.
I mean, look at the sacrifices in the OT. The less defects the lamb or animal had, the better potential to be sacrificed. Smiley


I've never thought of Jewish sacrifice in eugenic terms before. The Israelites were killing off the cream of the crop and so perpetuating inferior genes within their livestock.

LOL!!!  Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2010, 03:33:40 PM »

So a faithful christian(?) Uzzah didn't want his god's ark to be smashed by falling on the road, and is killed by preventing it. Yet it says he angered god, and anything that angers god probably won't get to heaven, right? Why is smiting god's weapon of choice anyway? Did he not have a better way of evilly punishing poor Uzzah?

Uzzah had no bad intentions in his heart, so why was he punished? Did god send a righteous man to hell?
Furthermore, why would god be so stand offish as to not want his stuff touched.  Isn't that like a Father killing his young son because he touched his TV remote?

Faithful Israelite.  What kind of a God makes a magic box that will *kill* you if you accidently touch it in order to be faithful to that god and then gets "angry"?  Oh yes, *that* one, the crazy one that is not much different than other bronze age deities.   
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2010, 07:26:10 PM »

Is that where the term "Uzzah going to hell" came from?
I laughed.
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2010, 07:41:55 PM »

So a faithful christian(?) Uzzah didn't want his god's ark to be smashed by falling on the road, and is killed by preventing it. Yet it says he angered god, and anything that angers god probably won't get to heaven, right? Why is smiting god's weapon of choice anyway? Did he not have a better way of evilly punishing poor Uzzah?

Uzzah had no bad intentions in his heart, so why was he punished? Did god send a righteous man to hell?
Furthermore, why would god be so stand offish as to not want his stuff touched.  Isn't that like a Father killing his young son because he touched his TV remote?

Faithful Israelite.  What kind of a God makes a magic box that will *kill* you if you accidentally touch it in order to be faithful to that god and then gets "angry"?  Oh yes, *that* one, the crazy one that is not much different than other bronze age deities.   

God lived on the lid when he was down here messing with the Israelites...  But then one day, the Jew's misplaced him. They looked in their closet and under their beds but simply couldn't find him anymore. That is why god doesn't show up in modern times. He's got himself locked up like a genie in a box that the Jews lost!
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2010, 10:50:54 AM »

God lived on the lid when he was down here messing with the Israelites...  But then one day, the Jew's misplaced him. They looked in their closet and under their beds but simply couldn't find him anymore. That is why god doesn't show up in modern times. He's got himself locked up like a genie in a box that the Jews lost!

Now that *is* an excellent explanation for biblegod's disappearance!  Smiley
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