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God could have spoke pig latin and they spoke latin so maybe that's why the miss understanding was so bad.
And God said Ickxnay on the ee tre of oledgekne I mean who could understand that?
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I have it on good authority that Adam and Eve spoke Ukrainian, and that indeed will be the language spoken in Heaven.
My uncle Aadideva says that it was and will be Sanskrit. However he's a bit of a black sheep and frowned upon by
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« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2010, 05:20:17 PM » |
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What language did Adam and eve speak? Was it a God language that was perfect? how about 'we do not know' God does not tell us their language forit is not germane to the message given in the Bible. Didn't have to be a'God langaugae' for God can speak any language He wishes. If it was a perfect god language, why would it have ever changed? Why would God choose to confound his perfect god language over the Tower of Babel? Moot and worthless as a point of discussion. that story provides the answer to where language originated,something science cannot find. http://www.trueorigin.org/language01.aspOrganic evolution has proven unable to elucidate the origin of language and communication. Knowing how beneficial this ability is to humans, one would wonder why this skill has not evolved in other species. Materialistic science is insufficient at explaining not only how speech came about, but also why we have so many different languages. |
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« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2010, 05:36:51 PM » |
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These are things I have wanted to know since I was a literal bible-believing JW child, but nobody knew the answers: When god created Adam, did he have the power of speech at all? Did he even have vocal chords? He was the only human on earth, so why would he speak? Who would he talk to? Did god only make male animals at the beginning, or did he make pairs of everything but humans? What about animals that are not male or female, like earthworms? Did god also create all the disease germs and viruses when he made all the other living things? If so, where did they live since there was no sickness until the fall? If not, when did god create germs, and why? Related to this, did Adam in his original (pre-Eve) form have a penis, testicles and sperm? Why would he? And, now that I think of it, where the heck would Adam's chromosomes have come from, since he had no human mother or father? I really want answers here.  |
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Why do Americans, who can't live 5 min without science and technology, claim they "don't believe" in science?
Ice cores have no agenda. Deal with it.
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« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2010, 06:38:15 PM » |
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These are things I have wanted to know since I was a literal bible-believing JW child, but nobody knew the answers: When god created Adam, did he have the power of speech at all? Did he even have vocal chords? He was the only human on earth, so why would he speak? Who would he talk to? Did god only make male animals at the beginning, or did he make pairs of everything but humans? What about animals that are not male or female, like earthworms? Did god also create all the disease germs and viruses when he made all the other living things? If so, where did they live since there was no sickness until the fall? If not, when did god create germs, and why? Related to this, did Adam in his original (pre-Eve) form have a penis, testicles and sperm? Why would he? And, now that I think of it, where the heck would Adam's chromosomes have come from, since he had no human mother or father? I really want answers here. Well, you have the answers! What you really want is for some ignorant creationist to stop by and dump a load of batshit on your questions, to the extent that you just accept that God is the shizznits... |
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« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2010, 06:26:04 AM » |
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What language did Adam and eve speak? Was it a God language that was perfect? how about 'we do not know' God does not tell us their language forit is not germane to the message given in the Bible. Didn't have to be a'God langaugae' for God can speak any language He wishes. Oh, but it is relevant. If the language Adam spoke is still active today, then what is it? If not, then it means that EVERYTHING that allegedly happened in Eden has been subject to at least one translation - which means there is the possibility of error. If it was a perfect god language, why would it have ever changed? Why would God choose to confound his perfect god language over the Tower of Babel? Moot and worthless as a point of discussion Sorry, but no it isn't. It is extremely important. Each time an apparent contradiction appears in the Bible, a believer pops up to tell us that it is a translation error, and that the original language holds the "true" message. Maybe so - but that means that (quite literally) billions of Christians throughout the ages have based their faith on an incorrect translation - an incorrect translation that would not have happened had god not decided to create language in order to stop a ziggurat from reaching heaven. I wonder why those folks at NASA weren't all suddenly struck with new languages? Bottom line: every translation error in the Bible, every disagreement and war caused by a misunderstanding of language - ALL are the direct result of god's actions. I therefore think it is extremely important to understand why god did what he allegedly did - especially since his apparent motives are ridiculous at best. |
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« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2010, 06:29:49 AM » |
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The guy asked for a quote outside of the bible.So I gave him one.The Koran.
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« Reply #37 on: April 01, 2010, 12:50:59 PM » |
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If it was a perfect god language, why would it have ever changed? Why would God choose to confound his perfect god language over the Tower of Babel? Moot and worthless as a point of discussion. that story provides the answer to where language originated,something science cannot find. http://www.trueorigin.org/language01.aspOrganic evolution has proven unable to elucidate the origin of language and communication. Knowing how beneficial this ability is to humans, one would wonder why this skill has not evolved in other species. Materialistic science is insufficient at explaining not only how speech came about, but also why we have so many different languages. always love the ignorance of Christians who want to close down inquiry because they don't want anyone to find an answer that would show again that their god doesnt' exist. Sorry, we may not have the answers *yet* and we may never know the complete answer, but this is no evidence for your sky fairy. There are plenty of hypotheses: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_language and the fact that they exist shows your little cut and paste to be wishfull thinking at best, and a lie at worst. Now, if one looks at the actual chapters in Genesis that the myth about Babel is in, one sees that there were different languages before God was frightened by the tower. So much for omnipotent and omniscient god. |
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« Reply #38 on: April 01, 2010, 06:33:11 PM » |
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I wonder why those folks at NASA weren't all suddenly struck with new languages? This question is pure brilliance. |
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« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2010, 07:27:50 PM » |
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What language did Adam and eve speak? Was it a God language that was perfect? how about 'we do not know' God does not tell us their language for it is not germane to the message given in the Bible. Didn't have to be a 'God language' for God can speak any language He wishes. No, Current languages have a human origin. Our languages are constantly evolving. The first one would have to be a God original. Our languages are grossly imperfect, would god create an imperfect language? Why would he? If it was a perfect god language, why would it have ever changed? Why would God choose to confound his perfect god language over the Tower of Babel? Moot and worthless as a point of discussion. that story provides the answer to where language originated,something science cannot find.
The story does Not state the original language, If Adam named the animals, what language did he use, his own or god's? If you think science doesn't know a whole lot more that that third grade link you posted, you are sorely delusional. http://www.trueorigin.org/language01.aspOrganic evolution has proven unable to elucidate the origin of language and communication. Knowing how beneficial this ability is to humans, one would wonder why this skill has not evolved in other species. Materialistic science is insufficient at explaining not only how speech came about, but also why we have so many different languages. [/quote] Where did you get this drivel headed Idea? We have observed Twins and separated children create their own languages. We know how and why language evolves. Anthropological linguistics - learn about it! |
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« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2010, 07:29:12 PM » |
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I wonder why those folks at NASA weren't all suddenly struck with new languages? This question is pure brilliance. Maybe they were, L337 had to come from somewhere ya know! |
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« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2010, 09:16:06 PM » |
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I would presume the language of the people around them. Read about where Cain and Abel married wives from outside the garden.
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« Reply #42 on: May 09, 2010, 09:20:01 PM » |
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Read about where Cain and Abel married wives from outside the garden.
Tell where to find these articles. |
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« Reply #43 on: May 09, 2010, 09:23:23 PM » |
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I would presume the language of the people around them. Read about where Cain and Abel married wives from outside the garden.
Whaddya mean? Cain and Abel were never in the garden. So of course their wives came from outside it. |
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« Reply #44 on: May 09, 2010, 11:19:24 PM » |
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I would presume the language of the people around them. Read about where Cain and Abel married wives from outside the garden.
This is a simple question, is it not? What language did Adam and Eve speak? Do you know? |
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« Reply #45 on: May 10, 2010, 06:45:07 AM » |
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What language did Adam and eve speak? Was it a God language that was perfect? If it was a perfect god language, why would it have ever changed? Why would God choose to confound his perfect god language over the Tower of Babel?
If they had been allowed to complete the Tower, they would have reached the heavens and therefore god. Biblegod is, according to the bible, afraid of the capeabilities of human beings. We gained knowledge and had a shot at eternal life, which god prevented by expelling our ancient parents from the garden, and he had to thwart our attempts to reach the heavens by giving us different languages. Biblegod fears us. In that at least, he showed some degree of prescience. |
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« Reply #46 on: May 12, 2010, 12:39:44 PM » |
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well, there is the Lilith story, not in the bible, that has her the first woman and heading for the cities on the coast after getting fed up with Adam and Yahweh. So we either have the extrabiblcal stories about what possible languages people could speak or we have Adam and Cain and Able and Seth having lots of incestuous sex with their nameless sisters and mom.
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