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« on: November 30, 2009, 08:46:44 PM »

Hello,

We are a non-profit religious organization that has set a simple goal of
buying the soul of atheists.

We would like to purchase your soul for a symbolic value (1$ - we can
paypal it to you or send it via credit card - if you wish we can donate it
to a charity of your choice). All we need is a scanned document saying "I
[name] hereby sell my soul to Project Souls" (you can customize it any way
you want).

You affirm that the soul does no exist and therefore would have absolutely
no problem selling us this 'thing'. If you don't hold any value to the
soul, then 'put your money where your mouth is' and sell it to us!

Please send us the scanned document or any questions to
admin@projectsouls.info . Thank you very much.

NOTE : We are sorry that this is not a personalized message (we sent the
same message to a group of self-proclaimed atheists) but if you reply we
will gladly sent you a more personal message. Thank you.

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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2009, 08:58:30 PM »

You can have it but not my personal info.
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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2009, 09:04:14 PM »

LOL WUT? Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2009, 09:24:10 PM »

I'm waiting for a better offer.  How about $100?  After all, I'm ethical and won't want to sell something twice, even if it is imaginary.  It would be unfair to the person who doesn't share my perspective.

For what it's worth, I have a detailed discussion that you are welcome to join in on here;

No souls, no way to get to an afterlife
http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/forums/index.php?topic=6546

I am open to being shown I am in error, but I require that demonstration to be more than an assertion that you are correct with nothing to back it up.

I await a response from you that is as serious as you take this issue.  No response, of course, is expected.
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2009, 09:27:36 PM »

I don't want my name on a list.
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2009, 09:28:47 PM »

FWIW, the web site is basically identical to the mail message.  There are no links at all.

Whois shows the following (with edits to parse out some useless bits);

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Domain ID:D30576029-LRMS
Domain Name:PROJECTSOULS.INFO
Created On:30-Nov-2009 17:25:14 UTC
Last Updated On:30-Nov-2009 18:05:15 UTC

Expiration Date:30-Nov-2010 17:25:14 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com Inc. (R171-LRMS)
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
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Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:CR30319520
Registrant Name:Jonatao Sardinha
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street1:Rua da Internet
Registrant Street2:Alfornelos
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Lisboa
Registrant State/Province:Extremadura
Registrant Postal Code:1500
Registrant Country:PT
Registrant Phone:+351.218959839534
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Registrant Email:bazooll@gmail.com
Admin ID:CR30319524
Admin Name:Jonatao Sardinha
Admin Organization:
Admin Street1:Rua da Internet
Admin Street2:Alfornelos
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Admin City:Lisboa
Admin State/Province:Extremadura
Admin Postal Code:1500
Admin Country:PT
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Billing Name:Jonatao Sardinha
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2009, 09:35:36 PM »

Rua da Internet.  Grin
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2009, 09:36:47 PM »

Yep.  I noticed that after saving it off.

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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2009, 09:37:29 PM »

They get an email address, a name, and a paypal account. More information than I'm willing to give out for a dollar!
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2009, 09:38:07 PM »

Well I have to inform you that I don't have a soul, so ethically I can't sell one to you.

Atheists do have morals you know  Roll Eyes

I suppose I could sell you exclusive prospecting rights to search for any signs of a soul - so long as you are fully aware I'm not representing any false hope that you might find a soul belonging to me or anyone else.
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2009, 09:39:32 PM »

I guess if we don't sell, Jonatao Sardinha or John Smith or whoever will send in the Spanish Inquisition;

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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2009, 09:42:49 PM »

I don't think I want to get involved with bible people.
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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2009, 09:43:55 PM »

what about my unicorn?
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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2009, 09:44:16 PM »

I think you're exactly right, Hermes. NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!
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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2009, 10:49:16 PM »

Hello,

We are a non-profit religious organization that has set a simple goal of
buying the soul of atheists.

We would like to purchase your soul for a symbolic value (1$ - we can
paypal it to you or send it via credit card - if you wish we can donate it
to a charity of your choice). All we need is a scanned document saying "I
[name] hereby sell my soul to Project Souls" (you can customize it any way
you want).

You affirm that the soul does no exist and therefore would have absolutely
no problem selling us this 'thing'. If you don't hold any value to the
soul, then 'put your money where your mouth is' and sell it to us!

Please send us the scanned document or any questions to
admin@projectsouls.info . Thank you very much.

NOTE : We are sorry that this is not a personalized message (we sent the
same message to a group of self-proclaimed atheists) but if you reply we
will gladly sent you a more personal message. Thank you.



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« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2009, 11:35:39 PM »

To the OP:

You can't buy something that does not exist.  Rather than offer a dollar per soul, perhaps you'd be better off donating your money to a worthy cause.  This time of the year is a good time to do such things.  Please donate some money in my name to the homeless shelter of your choice.  You might also consider donating to an animal shelter.  Actually, I'd prefer you donate to an animal shelter, as they exist for the benefit of the truly defenseless among us.

Happy holidays

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« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2009, 12:02:47 AM »

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OP, I need money, but not from you.

But since the thread is title "A Simple Dare to An Atheist" where exactly is the dare?

FWIW: As I type this there are 121 guests viewing the thread. Also, FWIW: here's the site;

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PROJECT SOULS - BUYING ATHEISTIC SOULS ONE BY ONE


We're a small non-profit organization that has started a project to buy the soul of many atheists who proclaim there's no such thing.

We also are extreme minimalists, which explains the simplicity of this site - that or we can't afford a web designer!

So far we've collected 8 souls, if you're an atheist and don't mind giving us (or selling) yours, mail us : admin@projectsouls.info

BULLSHIT!
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« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2009, 12:15:45 AM »

To anyone who is viewing this thread and believes in incorporeal souls, if you have $100.00 USD, I'll sign over my soul to you.

You are also welcome to show me where I am mistaken about no incorporeal souls existing.  What a cheap price for eternity, right?  A few hours of work to a few days.  If you take it seriously, $100.00 USD is cheap.

So far, nobody has actually forked over a cent over the span of a few decades when I've made this offer.  The $1 offer isn't even worth the time to write on a slip of paper, but a hundred?  That shows serious consideration.  A thousand?  Well, where should I sign sir?  Where should I sign madame?
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« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2009, 12:27:08 AM »

(you say this)

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You affirm that the soul does no exist and therefore would have absolutely
no problem selling us this 'thing'. If you don't hold any value to the
soul, then 'put your money where your mouth is' and sell it to us!

Wait a second. Suddenly I'm reminded of the bible verse Matt 11:28-30

 28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.  29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.  30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

 So how can Jesus give our souls rest if we sell it to you. It seems like all you want is money, and by that you are making Jesus cry.

Also;

John 2:16

16And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.

I'm pretty sure you upset Jesus.
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« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2009, 01:11:26 AM »

$1 is not enough for a magical invisible item.

I want a flying horse in exchange for mine.
If you can provide one of those, then let me know where to check it out and we'll do the trade then.  If you can throw in a date with She-Ra that would be awesome too.

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« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2009, 02:54:26 PM »

ah, what  bunch of great replies to sanctimonius twit OP.
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« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2009, 04:53:45 PM »

Ok. I'll take you up on your offer, and I'll sell you my soul for a dollar. However, since I will still be here on earth after the "Rapture", and you'll no doubt be gone, I have a business opportunity for you.

You pay me 100 dollars, and I'll care for your dog or cat (or any pet) in the post rapture world.

That's one hundred bucks for each animal. You have to pay up front.

There are several businesses online that offer this type of service, but they won't give you the specialized attention that I will provide for your beloved pets.

The 100 bucks is only good for five years from the time the contract is finalized.

After that, if the rapture hasn't yet come, you'll have to renew our contract with me for another 5 years.

If Fido or Fluffy die before the rapture, I get to keep your 100 bucks. There are no refunds.

Hurry because Jebus said you won't know the hour in Which he comes. 
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« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2009, 06:29:54 PM »

OP replies via email:

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Hi,

We have read the thread and would like to answer some questions.

First of all, the concerns of privacy. Fair enough, if you wish you can use
a nickname, as long as you're honest about selling your soul. As for the
paypal, again, you can give us the PUBLIC paypal address of a non-profit
organization of your choosing.

Someone mentioned the bible, and this is a common mistake, but again, for
atheists you aren't being very logical - no one mentioned the bible - there
are other religions!

While some of the concerns are certainly valid, we simply believe that some
hurdles are just set because in the end you actually believe in the soul
and are affraid to sell it (including putting some very high price tags).

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« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2009, 06:40:18 PM »

OP replies via email:

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Hi,

We have read the thread and would like to answer some questions.

First of all, the concerns of privacy. Fair enough, if you wish you can use
a nickname, as long as you're honest about selling your soul. As for the
paypal, again, you can give us the PUBLIC paypal address of a non-profit
organization of your choosing.

Someone mentioned the bible, and this is a common mistake, but again, for
atheists you aren't being very logical - no one mentioned the bible - there
are other religions!

While some of the concerns are certainly valid, we simply believe that some
hurdles are just set because in the end you actually believe in the soul
and are affraid to sell it (including putting some very high price tags).



I believe the whole thing is dumb. Sure I can write my name on a piece of paper and scan it to admin@whateverthefuckthedomainnameis.info, and I can wait for my one dollar to come via paypal, but seriously, what's the point.

if you are so sure there is a soul why not take up Hermes offer, join the forum and discuss the soul.

I mean, what the hell is your point? Grow some balls, join the forum and try to provide some evidence of the soul. It's not rocket science, this is religion we are talking about. Just make some s**t up like all religious people do.

As for a soul, Lets assume there is one.  What makes you think that by me writing my name on paper and scanning is to you guys automatically 'sells' it to you. What validity do you have of this.

Thanks a lot. Now I feel like watching the Simpson episode where Bart sells his soul.
Sorry, there's no soul.
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« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2009, 06:52:49 PM »

While some of the concerns are certainly valid, we simply believe that some
hurdles are just set because in the end you actually believe in the soul
and are affraid to sell it (including putting some very high price tags).

Have you ever seen that episode of The Simpson's where Homer sells his soul to the Devil (his neighbor, Mr. Flanders) for a doughnut?  If not, I'm about to ruin it for you.  Homer already gave his soul to Marge and Mr. Flanders is thwarted.

Well, I have gotten many offers like yours in the past and they are all a waste of time.  You don't take sale seriously.  Really, a dollar?  That's not worth my time and it's cheap publicity for you.  Why not show that you realize the pro-rated cost over an eternity of $100 is ... practically nothing.  I used to ask $1,000 btw, so consider this a 'fire sale'.

Then again, maybe you're OK with someone lying to you?  I'm not.  I'll sign it over if you are serious.  Are you?  You know my price.  Right now, you're paying in entertainment value, but I'd rather like cash.
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« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2009, 07:01:47 PM »

Hi,

What? I won't? I sent you my soul an hour ago. I only want ten cents for it. When you receive my soul, you will of course be able to identify it as such, contact me and I'll arrange for your payment to go to the secular charity of my choice.

May I ask, how will you be containing it? Where do you store them? A warehouse in Jersey?

If you fail to contact me, I will inform the relevant authorities of your misappropriation of my soul, and demand that you return it to me in person. I will accept nothing but the soul, so I hope you bring it.

Sorry if this message is a bit terse, I have felt woozy ever since sending that thing over to you. 
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« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2009, 07:04:52 PM »

It has been 5 minutes without a reply from the OP. I suppose my soul is stil enroute.

We'll check again tomorrow.

What say you fellows, before I alert the authorities about these wanna-be nigerians?
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« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2009, 07:08:26 PM »

100 shares of my soul for a box of 20 twinkies. i will sell one share for 20 dollars. or 5 shares for a twinkie
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« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2009, 07:11:10 PM »

I already sold my soul to a friend in school, about... four years ago, maybe?

50p too! Bought some of those pixie stick things (or whatever) with the moolah.
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« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2009, 07:13:44 PM »

That makes me think. What process does the OP use to determine which soul offers are genuine. If i sold my soul to Billy down the street twelve years ago, how will you know I sold you my actual soul to you?

I mean, of course, souls exist, and you can do this right?
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