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It's been over a month now, and although I know for certain we have "macro-evolution" deniers on the forum, I'm not surprised none of them have answered the question, because they know they can't.

It might be because you are asking for someone to disprove an Argument from Ignorance (fallacy).

Yes, I am asking for someone to disprove ID. How did you know?

Your challenge is a burden-of-proof shifter.

How so? The current ToE explains the mechanism by which changes in individuals propagate throughout populations, producing changes in those populations over time. "Macro-evolution" deniers must therefore deny that this mechanism exists, or that something prevents it from working. I'm just inquiring as to what it is.
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It's been over a month now, and although I know for certain we have "macro-evolution" deniers on the forum, I'm not surprised none of them have answered the question, because they know they can't.

It might be because you are asking for someone to disprove an Argument from Ignorance (fallacy). Your challenge is a burden-of-proof shifter.
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Science / Re: Soil, Sol, Bodem, Suelo, ?????????? ?????????????
« Last post by jynnan tonnix on October 18, 2017, 03:59:30 PM »
I enjoyed watching that...there was quite a bit to digest. But what was that first language? I could NOT identify it
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It's been over a month now, and although I know for certain we have "macro-evolution" deniers on the forum, I'm not surprised none of them have answered the question, because they know they can't.
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Religion In The News / Re: ‘Allah’ Is Found on Viking Funeral Clothes
« Last post by jynnan tonnix on October 18, 2017, 03:44:49 PM »
My point was, we don't know if this viking was a Muslim or not.  It's best not to jump to conclusions.  Leonid Brezhnev used to say 'Bozhemoi' a lot.  That doesn't mean he was a Christian.

Which, in case anyone doesn't know, is literally, the way we might say OMG. (in Polish, Boze moj)

Oh, and the 13th warrior is one of those movies hat my husband ends up watching to the end every time he runs across it. I've seen it a time or two, if in a rather distracted way. It does seem like a good movie. Maybe I'll pay more attention next time.
 
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This is getting silly! Are we saying, Charlie, that this god of yours creates things  it doesn't need or have any use for? I mean any act of creating must, presumably be purposeful and have been thought about a decided on before the act itself. (Unless god accidentally said the magic word while chatting with the various parts that make him up, the Trinity).


So, if this god created everything, which is what is claimed, he must have a had a reason to do so. Given the numerous references in his holy book to the need to worship and follow rules, one would have to conclude that people were created for this purpose - to worship god - and thus we may reasonably infer god needs worship and created people to do this,
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Why else create something? There has to be a need to inspire an idea OR you are implying our creation was accidental without purpose.

Are you saying God does not need us?  If so, I agree.

I agree as well...On the infinitesimal chance that it is actually some god's whim that we are here, he did not NEED to create us any more than we NEEDED to create Chia-pets...
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This question has really been nagging me.  I can not come up with one good reason why a god such as described by any of the world's top religions would create anything, much less conscious self-aware beings.

Take the watch analogy,  the watch was created out of a need.  Most inventions are to make survival easier.

What could a super omni max god need with humans?

Why does the creation of something have to mean... and can only mean... that it was created because it was needed?  Why would you assume that if God created humans, then it must mean that God needed humans?  If you weren't assuming such a thing, then why do you ask the question?

Why else create something? There has to be a need to inspire an idea OR you are implying our creation was accidental without purpose.

Are you saying God does not need us?  If so, I agree.

I think another fair question is if we're God's focal point, why create dinosaurs?  Better yet, why create lions, tigers and bears (yeah I know, oh my) and other animals that can tear us limb from limb?  Or plants that can poison us?  Or snakes, etc etc.  It doesn't really seem to add up.
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General Religious Discussion / Re: The most harmful religons
« Last post by YouCantHandleTheTruth on October 18, 2017, 02:16:41 PM »
I am quite happy to point out your failures and your false claims.

The question is, who do you think are you pointing them out to? Yourself? You keep responding to my posts with the insults knowing they are having no affect so you must be doing it for some other reason. It's rather odd.

I'm sorry if you find reality to be an "insult".  I respond to your posts pointing out your failed claims, BS, and the failed claims of the sources you cite. Your claism do fail, and this pastor is an arrogant and ignorant man who has made false claims about atheists and has tried very hard to convince others that only his world view is right, and the only intelligent people agree with him. For someone who is up in arms about my words, you have no problem in posting insults on your own. You posted that chunk of his post and you evidently agree with it.  You can always say that you don't. Do you? 

 And we always have lurkers, so more than me gets to see your nonsense and my replies.  Not odd at all on a discussion forum.

I always have this issue too.  As soon as you counter a theist everything is offensive.  Why is it offensive to argue back, and even if it were offensive, would this take away any of its truth?
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Why Won't God Heal Amputees? / Re: Why won't god heal burn victims?
« Last post by YouCantHandleTheTruth on October 18, 2017, 02:13:54 PM »
Just wondering why god has no problems miraculously healing people with cancer from time to time, but never seems to use that same power to eliminate the disfigurement from which people who are seriously burned suffer.

http://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/family-woman-set-on-fire-by-ex-boyfriend-in-2015-has-died

I especially welcome believers in a deity --any deity -- that supposedly has such a power to offer their thoughts on this issue.

How about people with Down's Syndrome?  Life is hard enough without it.  If you have severe Down's Syndrome, how does this help you have a productive life?  I remember asking the amputee question to a theist and he said "There are plenty of amputees that have way happier lives than people with all their limbs that are deeply depressed."  Totally avoided the question and added another problem - why is there so much depression?  That seems very strange too, and cripples plenty of people emotionally, preventing them from being productive, as does bipolar depression, schizophrenia, and so on and so on.
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