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Chatter / Re: Rate the Last Film You Saw
« Last post by Mrjason on Yesterday at 08:07:54 AM »
Death Proof 2007 4/10

Not one of quentin's best. Was expecting more. However hot girls, dodges and references to Pulp fiction make it tolerable. Kurt Russell's charachter was a real let down.
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Science / Re: Ghosts
« Last post by larkasaur on Yesterday at 07:37:37 AM »
The video originally posted didn't look particularly like a person to me.
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Introductions / Re: My Path from Islam to Christianity to Sanity
« Last post by SamK on Yesterday at 07:16:23 AM »
danke DunkleSeele.  :)
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Introductions / Re: My Path from Islam to Christianity to Sanity
« Last post by SamK on Yesterday at 07:15:18 AM »
Thank you One Above All. Also thanks for the advice. I will be careful of course.
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The Emergency Room / Re: Lukvance
« Last post by jaimehlers on Yesterday at 06:21:10 AM »
If you're trying to prove that you should stay in the Emergency Room indefinitely, you're doing a very good job of it so far, Lukvance.  You see, you're doing exactly the same stuff that got you in trouble - constantly trying to prove that your arguments are correct, no matter how much you have to twist things around, and never giving so much as an inch as far as admitting you might not have had it right in the first place.

You see, I did not ask you where you learned that God no longer punishes (or never punished).  I don't especially care where you learned it; it simply isn't relevant here and now.  Therefore, trying to bring it up is not answering my question but trying to make rhetorical points in the guise of 'answering' it.  I asked you why God no longer punishes, and your answers so far have been to try to make a rhetorical point about a god who sacrifices himself for humans essentially not being capable of punishing people - false reasoning, to boot - and now to claim that God never punishes, with no support to justify it except for purely rhetorical questions, such as "why would an infinite (and perfect) being change?" and "what could be the need of punishing?"  Neither 'answer' has any value as an actual answer; the first attempted to establish the rhetorical point that a being who would sacrifice himself for others wouldn't then punish them, which is logically flawed, and the second is a useless claim about how "God never punishes", which is based not on facts but on rhetorical questions.

You are not answering my question.  And this is a big part of why you are in the Emergency Room.  Understand this, if nothing else - your standard way of arguing got you here, and therefore, continuing to argue that way will not get you out.  If that's okay with you, then please let me know, so I can go on and do other things.
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Chatter / Re: Rate the Last Film You Saw
« Last post by eh! on Yesterday at 05:17:08 AM »
I give this 9/10, I think from 1998, I don't get out much. def not a Hollywood movie, like to see what US folks would rate it, I am guessing this would not appeal to American movie goers sensibilities for lack of big action and special effects.

hope someone will / has seen it will give thoughts.

a bit hard to watch.
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No. Wrong on all points.

Having an official of the state lead a prayer is establishing a state religion. Having a team prayer before the game is coercive bullying. Christian, muslim, or hindu, is irrelevant.

A student leading a prayer is not an official head of state. Prayer is not bullying. It is OK to do it. Why do you think it's bullying? Why not listen to us about how we say that we don't have a problem with it? The believers have no problem with it, so the atheists shouldn't care one lick.

Oi. So much to unpack here for the arrogantly privileged.

Using state funded resources to broadcast your religious message to a captive audience grants the imprimatur of state authority, no matter who is offering the prayer. Having a team prayer before the game is needlessly divisive, forcing players to choose between team unity and personal integrity. And if they choose integrity, they are singled out for special treatment of the unfortunate variety. Prayer issued in these forms is inherently coercive and bullying.

But of course, you represent the group that benefits from the bullying, so you choose not to see it. Instead you ignore the context I provided, and argue as if I'm objecting to personal prayer. I'm uncertain how many times it has to be said before it will sink in, but I'll say it one more fucking time: Any and every student is free to pray as long as it does not interfere or coerce other students. There, is that clear? No one has removed prayer from school. Say it with me: "No one has removed prayer from school."

And believers DO have a problem with it. I imagine Hindus might object to their children forced to listen to Christian prayer just like I imagine the shitstorm that would emerge if Christian children were forced to listen to Hindu prayer. Are you completely unable to step into another person's shoes, for even an instant? Are you utterly devoid of empathy? The wall of separation protects everyone, even you.

Can't you be satisfied with a church on every corner? Every politician mouthing your platitudes? Whole television networks devoted to blasting your message 24/7? The existence of a special Christian version of everything that allows you to maintain your insularity, and remain in your bubble? Must you seek to pollute everything? Can't you leave us even a tiny corner of reality free from your blather about your invisible friend?

I guess not. You would feel all persecuted, am I right?

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or did they got to heaven???
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General Religious Discussion / Re: Hell and the end of life
« Last post by dloubet on Yesterday at 04:17:49 AM »
The problem with all the arguments likening man's relationship to god as a child's relationship to a parent is that children are expected to grow up, man apparently isn't. (Unless you're a Mormon, of course, in which case everyone is expected to be a god, or something.)
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Introductions / Re: My Path from Islam to Christianity to Sanity
« Last post by DunkleSeele on Yesterday at 04:12:22 AM »
Herzlich Willkommen, SamK!
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