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General Religious Discussion / Re: Personal Relationship with God
« Last post by median on Today at 12:37:19 AM »
The claims that religions make to things like "a changed life", "a sudden turnaround that couldn't have happened without God","a feeling of oneness with the creator", "hearing from him everyday", or "a peace that cannot be explained without God" are really what I'm driving at here. Religious people of all kinds (and I know this b/c I did it a ton myself) put lots of stock in personal interpretations of alleged experiences with the "divine", as if to imply that they are the masters of interpreting what they have experienced. Are these interpretations one of the following, or perhaps a combination thereof?

• Self deception (self lying)
• Wishful thinking
• SPAG (Self Projection as God/internal head-voice)
• Delusion
• Brainwashing
• Confirmation Bias

How might we determine a good interpretation and a bad one? What might be some methods to breakthrough the glazed look and/or brick wall effect that often accompanies these kinds of claims? I'm thinking back now of the times I made similar claims and trying to wrap my head around what things pulled me out or made me begin to rethink things.
The Bottomless Pit / Re: chatter
« Last post by nogodsforme on Today at 12:04:22 AM »
Or turn to stone. Those statues around your property are the people who used to be your neighbors.
Chatter / Re: GOP Candidates Stupidity !!!
« Last post by nogodsforme on Today at 12:02:37 AM »
^^^Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how much you like Mel Gibson and Tina Turner) the kind of policies Trump espouses will increase the overall population.

No sex ed or birth control means lots of babies born to teens. Those kids will then have to survive by their wits, since their parents will have no education or decent employment. Most of those kids will also survive long enough to reproduce-- evolution pretty much guarantees it. Even if life expectancy falls to 40 or 50, as long as most people make it past 15, the population will grow. Look at the poorest countries like Mali or Bangladesh. High death rates, but even higher birth rates.  :(

Long term you have a world that looks like Mad Max, only with a lot more people, fewer kick-a$$ vehicles and worse dental care. Kind of a global favela. :P

When you increase the death rate short term, either by warfare (Congo), damaged environment (former Soviet republics) or lack of health care (Haiti), or all of the above (Afghanistan) people usually rationally respond by having more kids, not less.  :-\
An eternal lobotomy awaits those entering the pearly gates.  Your family may be tortured forever because they were unconvinced by the poor evidence but you guessed right.  You win eternal bliss while they are condemned.

I would be mortified if my family were tortured and no amount of pleasantries would make me blissful but not with some of the Christian folk.
Chatter / Re: GOP Candidates Stupidity !!!
« Last post by Add Homonym on Yesterday at 11:13:18 PM »
The repub candidates for president are all monsters.

Maybe you start start embracing the fact that monsters are what is needed for population control. Go onto the blogs and support Trump, because you are left wing, and think the world is overpopulated, and he would reduce the population down to sustainable levels, of around 10% of current.
The Bottomless Pit / Re: chatter
« Last post by Nam on Yesterday at 10:04:57 PM »
Is this you guys way of trying to see me naked??

People seeing you naked go blind.

General Religious Discussion / Re: Why are missionaries necessary?
« Last post by Nick on Yesterday at 09:16:30 PM »
What would people do who have no talents?
General Religious Discussion / Re: From A Christian
« Last post by eh! on Yesterday at 09:08:29 PM »
You Thee Thor?
The Bottomless Pit / Re: chatter
« Last post by eh! on Yesterday at 09:04:52 PM »
Is this you guys way of trying to see me naked??
General Religious Discussion / Re: Why are missionaries necessary?
« Last post by Airyaman on Yesterday at 09:04:23 PM »
They are necessary to name a sexual position after. Man on top, classic.
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