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Chatter / Re: Get ready for silly weather reporters
« Last post by jynnan tonnix on Yesterday at 07:19:36 PM »
We had a stressful couple of days...were on vacation in Florida for a little over a week for our 30th anniversary, and due to fly back to Connecticut late-ish Monday evening. By the time Southwest Airlines issued a travel advisory entitling us to reschedule, there was almost nothing left earlier in the day, and we preferred to be able to get home ahead of the storm if possible. Finally found a flight through Chicago which was due to get in at 4:30 pm. Booked that. Incoming flight was delayed, leaving us 20 minutes to sprint to the opposite side of the airport for the connecting flight, not even knowing whether it would end up being cancelled or not.

As it turned out, we were the last plane which actually landed in Hartford that evening, then had to get our car, drive 1/2 hour to my parents' place to pick up the pets they had been watching and another 1/2 hour to our house, which is at the top of a hill in a pretty rural neck of the woods.

Luckily we picked what turned out to be the best route to the top of the hill (there are 4 different ways to access our street...much as it's very rural, it is also very convenient to a hub of highways, and is a good short cut between them if you know it's there), and made it home around 7:30 that evening.

Ended up with about 28" of snow. Our street is still in pretty rough shape, so I'm glad I don't actually need to go anywhere for a couple of days.

Religion & Society / Re: Pastor stops funeral because deceased was lesbian...
« Last post by Nam on Yesterday at 07:19:15 PM »
^yep. Another Terminator film is being made with Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Science / Re: Sticking your Neck out on Evolution...
« Last post by nogodsforme on Yesterday at 07:17:29 PM »
The head seems so tiny for the size of the body. Is that one of the dinos with a second brain in its a$$? Nam, over to you.

(I await the jokes....)
^^^Yeah, go to a Christian website and "look for answers and clarification". As long as you don't challenge any of their assumptions with facts or data, or profess to be of a different Christian denomination than the majority, or have an alternate interpretation of any bible verses, or suggest that Muslims or Hindus or gay people or atheists are as likely (or as unlikely  ;)) to go to heaven as Christians, or that a religion established 2000 years ago might not have all the information needed to understand the universe, you should be fine.

Seriously, I would love to be able to discuss and debate with religious folks on their websites. But they do not generally allow people with different points of view. We do. And that is what keeps bringing the theists back here. You'll be back, too, BS. Just like the Terminator.
General Religious Discussion / Re: Satan and Genesis 3:14
« Last post by 12 Monkeys on Yesterday at 06:58:06 PM »
Seriously, Jst, you think Jehovah god intends for most people to be deceived? Why would he do that? Why would he make the vast majority of the world people "do not love the truth" and therefore would never be able to understand?

You are saying that god has already has set things up so that most people will never understand. Jesus did not have to speak in difficult parables. Jehovah god can do anything, so he did not have to set it up so that most people would be tricked into following false gods, or no gods at all. This sounds like a trickster god, not like a god of light and love and forgiveness.

It also sounds like a believer has to accept anything that certain other people say comes from god, no matter how absurd. What if the people who wrote the stuff in the bible, or the people who are now interpreting it, got it wrong? Maybe that is why some things don't make sense to most people who read them. Because they don't make sense. Isn't that a possibility?

I am assuming you include atheists among the people who "do not love the truth." It seems like god has made "the truth" impossible for many of us to accept, because magical, supernatural nonsensical events make no sense. And god wants us to accept magical, supernatural nonsensical events as reality. Sorry to say, that is not possible.
Jesus said this Jesus said that.....BULLSHIT...the quotes attributed to Jesus were written decades after his alleged death. It would be like your mother quoting her great great grandmother....there is nobody there who can verify if grandma actually said it.
General Religious Discussion / Re: Who is the "Messiah" OCG & t
« Last post by junebug72 on Yesterday at 06:43:11 PM »
As my Jewish cousin put it when she converted from a Southern Baptist to Judaism, she talked with a Rabbi who said simply that he looked around and nothing much had changed in 2,000 years.  That made sense to her so she converted. 

I don't think there are irrefutable arguments or verses to support or deny Jesus of Nazareth as the Messiah.  Like any aspect of religion, it is a matter of faith.

If there are no verses to support the claim then doesn't that deny the claim in and of itself? :? 

I am not the one claiming Jesus was the messiah.  I am just asking for collaborating prophecy Old Church Guy.  You are making the posit claim. 

You are making Jesus that nasty old murderer from the past that Moses called god.  That flooded and drowned babies by the millions.  That allowed incest and rape of women and slavery.

Please note the response pertained to irrefutable arguments or verses.  There are plenty of arguments and verses which can be used for both major views.  So, to me, it is up to the individual to decide. 

Personally, I am fine with Jesus as my personal Lord and Savior.  But I don't feel obligated to condemn or chastise anyone who disagrees as I cannot prove that belief. 

You don't feel the need to correct skep when he starts gay bashing? 

You're not here to convert atheist you are here to change the minds of other theists.  That's a noble gesture.   

Doesn't Jesus say somewhere to be "perfect with your love"?

Will you please answer this question?  If giving up Jesus the messiah and respecting the messenger would cause peace between the Middle east and the rest of the world would you do it?

Myself, I would give up my beliefs for it.
Religion & Society / Re: Pastor stops funeral because deceased was lesbian...
« Last post by Jag on Yesterday at 06:30:50 PM »
I seem to be upsetting certain people so, call me overly sensitive if you choose, but I'd rather not be responsible for people having to re-live difficult episodes in their lives.
We're all adults here, anyone who is unable to engage on this topic can simply choose not to do so. Your pseudoconcern is not necessary.

I can just continue to look for answers and clarification to some of my questions elsewhere.
One's that confirm you pre-existing bias perhaps? Answers in Genesis would like to talk to you about an investment opportunity...
Chatter /, the opposite of Facebook
« Last post by shnozzola on Yesterday at 06:24:48 PM »
Frank Warren is the creator of The PostSecret Project, a collection of personal and artfully decorated postcards mailed anonymously from around the world, displaying secrets that might never be voiced otherwise. Since November 2004, Warren has received more than 500,000 postcards, with secrets that run from sexual taboos and criminal activity to confessions of hidden acts of kindness, shocking habits and fears. PostSecret is a safe and anonymous space where people can share untold stories.

TED talk and website (links to both on both):
General Religious Discussion / Re: Satan and Genesis 3:14
« Last post by Nam on Yesterday at 05:35:12 PM »
^he did say "many of these Christians", doesn't necessitate all Christians.

Science / Re: Sticking your Neck out on Evolution...
« Last post by Nam on Yesterday at 05:33:13 PM »
Must be a bitch in eating. Unless it has a stomach in its neck.

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