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Sexuality, Reproduction, & Abortion / Re: Porn fetishes
« Last post by screwtape on Yesterday at 01:44:29 PM »
This isn't that kind of forum.
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General Religious Discussion / Re: i reccomend this debate - re morality
« Last post by ParkingPlaces on Yesterday at 01:43:38 PM »
Yeah, I don't understand, for the life of me, why Christians find the moral argument to be impressive. It doesn't make sense on its own terms and it forces you into accepting some pretty ugly things as moral if you think that the conquest of Canaan was an actual thing that happened.

But it's been pointed out time and time again that God gave the Canaanites PLENTY of chances to repent and they kept refusing. Why should God allow people to enjoy what He has given them if they are just going to spit in his face?

The rules were broken. They have to deal with the consequences.

I've breen spitting in his face for fifty years (well, not literally, since he doesn't exist and hence doesn't have a face, but you get my drift) and he hasn't harmed me in any way. Am I just more likable than your average Canaanite, or has he mellowed a bit over the infinite years?

I've given him carte blanche permission to zap me at any time, but so far, he hasn't bothered. I'd take it personally except I do understand that he is too busy offing little kids in swimming pools, along with soldiers, young black men and too, that he's busy doing is part to be sure that about 20% of all pregnancies result in spontaneous abortion. As busy as he is, its amazing that he has time to love you or anything. But hey, he's got a whole universe to run and I shouldn't expect any special favors just because I overwhelmingly deserve them.

You'd think that North Korea and ISIS and a few other degenerate groups would have gotten his attention, and hence his wrath, but I guess as busy as he is answering petty prayers, he just can't work it in to his schedule.

Seriously, dude, accepting old stories as truth when they don't match a single thing in present day reality ought to be, like, you know, a frickin' clue about how true they are.

The only thing I hate about dying is that after it happens, I'll be as clueless as you.
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the same skep, the unrepentant liar.

Unless you have evidence he is actually being intentionally deceptive, please refrain from calling people liars.  That has been a standard rule around here for quite some time, so I don't understand the trend lately with people making this accusation so casually.   

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Sexuality, Reproduction, & Abortion / Porn fetishes
« Last post by shokenman on Yesterday at 01:39:35 PM »
Im just curious, how many of you enjoy watching porn that is not the normal variety...

e.g. scat, bondage, rape, degradation?
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Sexuality, Reproduction, & Abortion / Re: Prostitution
« Last post by shokenman on Yesterday at 01:37:11 PM »
when the church talks about not jacking off
i feel like jacking off even more!


I don't think the church wants you to jack off either.  You will go blind.
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General Religious Discussion / Re: Interesting person I met at church
« Last post by shokenman on Yesterday at 01:30:58 PM »
Hmmm.... well i wouldnt say that...
Christians come in all shapes and sizes....good and bad...etc.

Well for the moment forget about this guy.  I just noticed as a general observation that the people
who go to church (regulars and heavily involved in religion) are not as ambitious.
Seems like people don't have the same experience here.  And thats fine.
I was just curious thats all.
I mean look at the Bush family, they are Christian.  As i said, maybe its different in the States


So, you think he's a representation of a Christian?

-Nam
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Sexuality, Reproduction, & Abortion / Re: Butt hole is for shitting out of.
« Last post by shokenman on Yesterday at 01:26:35 PM »
You're right i havent....anyways i wasnt trying to make light of those that are ill.
Obviously if professional medical advice requires sticking things up my ass then i will do it
and most likely not enjoy it.

I believe in preservation of life.  Since at this point i do not believe in a heaven
i believe in doing what you can to enjoy and preserve life.  So yeh, id stick something up
my ass if it meant preserving my life.




Well, shokenman, you have jumped into a subject that will make people want to postpone lunch.  :P

I guess you have never cared for someone seriously ill, elderly or dying. Or been seriously ill etc. yourself. At that point, the anus is just another opening in the body where things go in and out.

Saying there are body openings that only go one way is like saying people should never vomit, because things only go into the mouth and should never come out.... &)

When you get sick enough, you will be happy to have someone stick something up your butt if it will relieve your suffering. Or are you so protective of your precious rectal area that you would refuse morphine suppositories for pain when your blood vessels have collapsed from dehydration and you are too weak to take pills by mouth?

Asteja, can I borrow your Clue by Four? Somebody needs a spanking. :angel:
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Religion In The News / Satan; Constitutionalist
« Last post by Dante on Yesterday at 01:19:37 PM »
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General Religious Discussion / Re: i reccomend this debate - re morality
« Last post by jdawg70 on Yesterday at 12:59:03 PM »
But it's been pointed out time and time again that God gave the Canaanites PLENTY of chances to repent and they kept refusing. Why should God allow people to enjoy what He has given them if they are just going to spit in his face?

The rules were broken. They have to deal with the consequences.

Well, let's be honest - they didn't have to deal with the consequences.  God could have chosen to not dole out this particular consequence.

I mean, if god did not intervene, would there have been negative consequences for the Canaanites to face?  If so, shouldn't that have been the consequence that they suffered?  If not, what exactly is the point of the rule?

If you try to teach someone to not to touch fire, how do you do it?  Do you try to get them to understand that the consequence is that they'll get burned, and if they don't want to get burned, they shouldn't touch the fire?  Or do you try to get them to understand that the consequence is that you'll kill their family, and if they don't want their family killed, they shouldn't touch the fire?

If you want to try to teach someone how to not get burned by touching a fire, you should go with the former.  If you want to try to teach someone that they shouldn't think for themselves and should just do whatever it is you want them to do, you should go with the latter.  One of these motivations is substantially less moral than the other.  I leave it to you to figure out which one looks like it comes from an egotistical control freak and which one comes from someone who gives a sh*t about the other person.
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General Religious Discussion / Re: i reccomend this debate - re morality
« Last post by Dante on Yesterday at 12:55:21 PM »
Yeah, I don't understand, for the life of me, why Christians find the moral argument to be impressive. It doesn't make sense on its own terms and it forces you into accepting some pretty ugly things as moral if you think that the conquest of Canaan was an actual thing that happened.

But it's been pointed out time and time again that God gave the Canaanites PLENTY of chances to repent and they kept refusing. Why should God allow people to enjoy what He has given them if they are just going to spit in his face?

The rules were broken. They have to deal with the consequences.

Sorry, I'm not totally familiar with this story.

Were ALL the Canaanites reprehensible? Did each and every one of them break the rules?

If not, your god's morality is subject to question. If so, your god's narcissistic personality omni-benevolence is subject to question.
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