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General Religious Discussion / Re: Creationists exposed by ex creationist
« Last post by eh! on Today at 01:16:14 AM »
You picked up a few sound grabs and went on yr merry way, skep you are dealing with people smarter than you and better educated than you and my guess know the bible, theology and philosophy better than you.

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Now skep has the IMPOSSIBLE task of removing ALL the perceptions and senses of ALL humans to ever verify his claims......there unverifiable, unfalsifiable claim with no proof or evidence or even a way to test it = bullshit.

That is the problem. I can not prove that God's mind is required for things to exist without other minds around. But, you guys can also not prove that there is an external world independent of minds when absolutely no minds exist.

It is somewhat of a wash.
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How many times has it been refuted in this thread?

Why are you so desperate to hold on to a useless idea, that you are using the fallacy of incredulity?

I guess I do not want to admit Berkeley failed because then it would be like admitting I have failed because I bought Berkeley's argument.

I honestly thought you guys were going to be so knocked back with deep thought that you would accept immaterialism. I guess I went in with too much confidence.
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Sexuality, Reproduction, & Abortion / Re: The hacking of Ashley Madison
« Last post by Nam on Today at 01:00:34 AM »
It's like the "good girl attracted to the bad boy" thing. Of course, after awhile the good girl thinks she can change the bad boy but the bad boy doesn't change so either she leaves or becomes a bad girl.

;)

-Nam

I'll bet you are a very bad boy.  :angel:

Meeeee?

Nah...

-Nam
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Chatter / Re: Republican Presidential Nomination
« Last post by Nam on Today at 12:44:32 AM »
The thing about what Huckabee said: he had a similar plan 7 years ago. He said he'd do what Obama did when he[1] ran for president in 2008.

He's such a hypocrite.

-Nam
 1. Huckabee
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General Religious Discussion / Re: The unbelievers
« Last post by eh! on Today at 12:38:04 AM »
So it's looking like the Luke passage commands the death of non believers. I guess that's what I was looking for. Apostasy and alternate god worship aside, does the Koran command unbelievers to be killed?

No that's not the meaning of the parable.  The wicked slave in the parable is an apostate not an atheist.

We are all born knowing Jesus exists, we are without excuse, some scripture, therefore all atheists are apostates along with everyone else who is not a Xian.
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"Don't let the small size  fool you."[1]

Hmmm...

OCG, how would you spend 7$ you can spare to defend your faith?
 1. This is the original text "Don't let the small size (91 minutes in fact) fool you." Sorry, couldn't help editing it  :)
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General Religious Discussion / Re: The unbelievers
« Last post by nogodsforme on Today at 12:16:41 AM »
So it's looking like the Luke passage commands the death of non believers. I guess that's what I was looking for. Apostasy and alternate god worship aside, does the Koran command unbelievers to be killed?

Everyone who isn't Muslim, or isn't immediately converted when offered to convert to Islam should be killed. That's all over the Qu'ran.

Edit to add:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm

-Nam

Specifically, pagans, polytheists, animists and atheists are in big trouble from the fundamentalist Islamist.  Convert or else. No mercy for them.

People of the Abrahamic book (Jews and Christians) have a better chance of surviving and are not automatically expected to convert. Unless you get nutters like the Taliban or IS. Then all bets are off.  :o
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Sexuality, Reproduction, & Abortion / Re: The hacking of Ashley Madison
« Last post by Jag on Today at 12:12:58 AM »
Explain to me again how these forums aren't just a bunch of atheists telling themselves how much smarter they are than religious people again?

nogods excellent answer aside - so what if it were "just a bunch of atheists telling themselves" whatever? Do you find it this upsetting when random strangers online disagree with you about other topics, or is it just atheists that bother you?
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Chatter / Re: Republican Presidential Nomination
« Last post by nogodsforme on Today at 12:10:16 AM »
Is there anything so low and stupid and awful that they won't say it? They are making George W and Dick Cheney look like towering intellectuals with highly developed social consciences. I remember realizing that Nixon and Bush senior were not the worst repubs ever after George W. came along.   Nixon was a flaming lefty liberal treehugging hippie compared to this current bunch.

The bottom of the barrel just keeps getting scraped thinner with each buttload of repubs. That is the proper collective noun, BTW. A murder of crows, a flock of sheep, a byte of computer nerds and a buttload of republicans.  Of course Chris Christie is a buttload all by himself.
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