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Isn't anything JST SAYS just come from his groups version of the Bible?
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General Religious Discussion / Re: "I Was Once an Atheist"
« Last post by Nam on Yesterday at 10:16:55 PM »
My life is officially over.

-Nam
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General Religious Discussion / Re: skept is telling the TRUTH - proof
« Last post by 12 Monkeys on Yesterday at 10:12:17 PM »
This whole thing reminds me of that thread about Monster energy drinks and the 'M' being a demonic symbol or whatever.

Don't tell him that "M" is a demonic symbol, I used it as a code-word for the spell I put on him in the witches thread.

http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/forums/index.php/topic,28882.29.html


I want to know if Skep was in the house any time before or since, and if his friend had just moved in.

Surely you are not suggesting that his dear beloved friend played a trick on him are you? That would be unthinkable! Any man who can recognize the voice of the One True God should be able to recognize when a mere human is fucking with him right?


Right?


Edit to add.

This is why intelligent, clever people shouldn't fuck with superstitious people in real life. They won't understand the lesson. As funny as it may be, it's not a joke to them.

I have told you guys time and time again that I would have known if it was a joke. My friend would have to be the best magician in history to pull that off. This seems highly unlikely. Blood appearing and disappearing is no trick, especially when you're sitting right there! No one was near the wall. No funny business going on. I saw what I saw and I know what I saw.
Ya you saw what a demon wrote on a wall to deceive you into thinking you can become Christian......congrats to Satan and his minions .....another soul Jesus won't get
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Religion In The News / Re: Quran older than Muhammad
« Last post by LoriPinkAngel on Yesterday at 10:10:11 PM »
One of them must be wrong...

Well that would be the scientists that dated the book, wouldn't it.

That is probably what they will say.
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General Religious Discussion / Re: skept is telling the TRUTH - proof
« Last post by 12 Monkeys on Yesterday at 10:07:58 PM »
And my question is this. I have walls. I've always had walls. But nobody ever wrote on any of them (not counting little kids with crayons). I'm in my 60's and I've never witnessed, experienced or otherwise endured a mystical, scary, pants-pissing anything that didn't have a logical explanation.

So I ask this. Why skep and not me too? Why skep and not all of us too? Why did skep and his friend get a visit from the big guy (remember, skep was an atheist at the time), when I, an atheist for far longer, have never had a similar experience.

This would seem to indicate that god isn't playing fair. If he exists, he is picking and choosing in such a way that skep now gets to spend an eternity in heaven, and me the same length of time in hell, when all it would have taken is for him to write on my wall.

A god who loves me but doesn't scare me is playing a strange game. When, as humans, our decisions about religion have infinite consequences, and this god guy can't be bothered to give everyone equally convinciEng hints, something is amiss. If I fry forever because the dude couldn't be bothered to mess with my head, I'm gonna kick his ass.

Perhaps God just knows (with His omniscience) who will convert and who will not. Maybe you will never convert, Double P.
perhaps you are not a real Christian and have been deceived by demons to praise a false god.....prove you have not been deceived by demons,and that it's the actual God messaging you
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General Religious Discussion / Re: Proof of God! But is it?
« Last post by Defiance on Yesterday at 10:03:50 PM »
OCG, we bother with "reverse evangelism" because you can put yourself in our shoes, unlike people like Skeptic, who's dumbfounded that we can be someone who lacks belief in gods.

NGFM raised a good point. OCG, try not to put my question down as "you're right, but I have my beliefs and may be delusional."

How do you see that there is no evidence of god, yet conclude that you believe in a god?

Why do you think that we, who also find no evidence of god, conclude the opposite?

Can you list a few important things that hold you into theism? Why, when using the same method to explore other questions, like "how many degrees will this water gain in temperature I left out for X amount of time?", do you end up with answers that go with the evidence?

As in, why when you find that gods may not really exist, and show no evidence, do you say "I believe in god"?
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Well, it turns out that I was absolutely right. I said that as soon as I answer the questions in the OP, I would be bombarded with more questions.

I'll move this discussion to the debate rooms.  You will only need to answer my questions.  Fair?
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General Religious Discussion / Re: "I Was Once an Atheist"
« Last post by eh! on Yesterday at 09:26:35 PM »
can someone make me a neme about grammar Nazis on the internet please.





;)



-Nam


1 karma earned.

ETA I can't award karma points????
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General Religious Discussion / Re: "I Was Once an Atheist"
« Last post by eh! on Yesterday at 09:26:07 PM »
can someone make me a neme about grammar Nazis on the internet please.

Yer spozed ta start yer sentunce with a capitol.


excellent grammar and punctuation - spelling blows.
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General Religious Discussion / Re: Proof of God! But is it?
« Last post by OldChurchGuy on Yesterday at 09:02:10 PM »
Jdawg70, Nogodsforme, and Graybeard (I hope I got the spelling right) have raised very good questions regarding critical thinking and faith.  I have been pondering the questions and observations and realized we are throwing around a term (critical thinking) without my actually knowing what it is.  So, I turned to that godless Wikipedia and read a most interesting article on critical thinking.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking

Per the article, critical thinking seems to be a much more wide open field than I realized.  For example, one definition of critical thinking which appeals to me is "[includes] a commitment to using reason in the formulation of our beliefs". 

Perhaps part of the concern is we are applying different definitions to what makes up critical thinking.  Which definition do you want to apply to critical thinking?  And, if it differs from the one I chose what makes one definition superior to another? 

The reason I emphasize a subjective understanding of God is because it is abundantly clear the people on this sight want tangible proof of God's existence.  There is nothing wrong with that and try to honor that expectation. 

So, anticipating there is no tangible proof of God (such as a ritual or chant which will consistently yield an entity, which can be seen and measured and agreed to be God), I try to head off the argument by conceding my views are subjective.   Early on in these exchanges various people declared I was delusional.  I resented this, at first, then realized that from an atheist perspective I am delusional.  Again, to head off argument, I declare that if my theism makes me delusional, so be it.

I honestly appreciate your concern over my theism.  At times, it seems almost like reverse evangelism as people try to patiently help me "see the light" to atheism.  Who knows?  That may happen sometime.  I don't think so, but I cannot predict the future. 

Appreciating the kindness and exchange of ideas I remain,

OldChurchGuy
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