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Chatter / Re: Justice Scalia Dead
« Last post by One Above All on Today at 11:00:14 AM »
I just read that he left some notes indicating he wanted to abolish the 13th amendment.

What the actual fuck?
Instead of encouraging action to prevent the horrible suffering caused by the zika virus, the Catholic church is discouraging such action in favor of traditional church doctrine.

Talk about having your priorities screwed up.
Alternatively, 'practicing homosexuality' and 'gay' are unrelated.

Practicing?  Are you saying some people are not good enough at homosexuality and need practice?  Will they become experts at it if they practice enough? Is that what gay is?  Expert homosexuals?
God is not constrained by the same limitations as humans just like a parent is not constrained by the same limitations they place on their children.

If we're talking about absolut morals, he is.

It is a rule in my house that others do not have the authority to punish my children.  That does not mean I will not punish one myself or at times temporarily give that authority to a responsible third party.

Those are not absolute rules.  They are subjective rules you made up.

Chatter / Re: Justice Scalia Dead
« Last post by jetson on Today at 10:45:27 AM »
Very happy to have him off of the SCOTUS. Weird that he died in hell (Texas).

I just read that he left some notes indicating he wanted to abolish the 13th amendment. If that is true, I have a difficult time feeling sorry for him.

I wish his surviving family well.
Chatter / Re: Justice Scalia Dead
« Last post by screwtape on Today at 10:35:57 AM »

Seriously, the bastard died about twenty years too late.

General Religious Discussion / Re: Please Prove God Loves Me
« Last post by junebug72 on Today at 10:15:54 AM »
It is not possible for God to die. 

Is it possible for God to forgive? 

God did not throw the grenade and while it was his will for Christ to die, he did not force him.  Christ's faithfulness was not forgone conclusion.  He could have succumbed to rebellion as others have done.  When you understand this you can also more fully appreciate what Christ himself did.

Yes he did throw the grenade.  You're right it was the love of the son not the father.  He did force him.  Jesus asked him to let the cup pass over him, big daddy said no. 

Mankind is very much like the story of the prodigal son.  The father was not to blame for his son's foolishness nor is God to blame for the foolishness of some humans.

God is responsible for his creation.  The sooner you get that in your head we can begin to make some progress. 

It's just good sense.  Take the faulty gas pedal; who is responsible for the bad engineering?  The driver or the manufacturer?  The manufacturer!!!All day long, 365 days a year.  God manufactured mankind, okay, then God is responsible for the faulty ones as well as the good ones.

Why not just forgive?  If I love the freaking world I just forgive it.  I am completely unambiguous about the rules and I put clothes on them first and foremost because I'm God and I know it's uncomfortable to live outside with no clothes and I love them.  You put clothes on people you love.

Some humans?   I thought we were all sinners?

No mankind is not the prodigal son.  The prodigal son had a human father that did not create him from dirt and leave him naked and ignorant.  Humans have the tendency to teach their children survival skills.   Humans also protect their kids from snakes.  Especially talking snakes.  Oh yes the snake got punished too.  It can't talk and has to slither instead of walk.  That combo seems to work pretty good for snakes. 

According to your book we all suffer for the sins of mom and dad, aka, Adam and Eve.  That forecloses love right there.  I am not even past the first chapter.  Not 1 place did Adam and Eve grieve for their murdered child!!!  Eat some fruit condemn all of mankind for eternity.  Murder your brother and get protected from violence.  That's just messed up right there, I don't care who you are.  That's messed up.

I can't believe all your empathy goes to a so called all powerful god and none goes to Adam and Eve.  Do you hate them JST?  Or do you appreciate their sin so you can have eternal life?

I feel so sorry for Adam and Eve I could burst!
Reviews / Re: Rate the Last Film You Saw
« Last post by shnozzola on Today at 09:52:31 AM »
Shindler’s List    10/10

I hadn’t seen it for a while.  The opening scene is a Jewish family praying.  To think later in the movie, those children, terrified Jewish children, are now willing to hide at the bottom of an outhouse in 3 feet of foul human excrement.  Or mothers, on seeing their cheering, happy unaware children arriving in trucks, are willing to risk death running past the German soldiers……..Or loading people on rail cars like cattle heading for slaughter.  So many scenes in this movie.  And now we have the Middle East, 75 years later – Islam, Christianity and Judaism - having learned absolutely nothing.  Maybe the human species will not make it after all, which in a sad twisted way makes all these religious end times prophecies true.
Classic Jesus goofs with Satan

[25] And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
[26] And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
[27] And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.

In that paragraph, he speaks for Satan, and then shuts them up, because they have done this dodgy activity as well.

[1] Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
[2] And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.
[3] And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
[4] But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
[5] Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,
[6] And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
[7] Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
[8] Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
[9] And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
[10] Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

In that paragraph, the narrator of Matthew forgets that he was not with Jesus when all this happened, so there was no way he would have known about it. Then he goes on, to not know that Jesus is, in fact, God, so he would not talk about tempting himself, and worshiping himself.

Also, Satan seems to forget that Jesus is God, and offers to be Jesus' master, which is idiotic, when you think about it, unless Satan is "in the know" that Jesus is not really God, or is working for Satan, anyway. So, who told Matthew that this all happened? And why did Matthew get it all so idiotically wrong?

General Religious Discussion / Re: Please Prove God Loves Me
« Last post by Add Homonym on Today at 07:38:14 AM »
Why did it have to be death by crucifixion instead of smallpox or being run over by a chariot?

Dude, they had this perfectly decent martyr, who'd been crucified. You think the spin doctors would let that go to waste?
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