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General Religious Discussion / Re: A question for theists
« Last post by eh! on February 25, 2017, 05:35:26 AM »
Please share a non-evidence proof of god.
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General Religious Discussion / Re: A question for theists
« Last post by pisteuo on February 25, 2017, 05:28:22 AM »
So I've come to the conclusion that everything religion-wise is based entirely on faith and no evidence whatsoever.

Not necessarily.  I think most have evidence of some sort that leads to belief.  There are all types of evidence and experience that lead people to a position of belief.  How many Christians have you met that truly believe unicorns exist?  Fairies?  Leprechauns?  So, why do they believe in God?  Presumably, if God is just another entity with zero evidence, then why don't they believe in unicorns and leprechauns? 

And if they know leprechauns and unicorns don't exist, why do they not know and understand that God obviously doesn't exist either?  I've never met a Christian who believes in such things, but I know plenty who are convinced that God is real.  Why?  They certainly can't prove He exists, right?
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Chatter / Re: What is Trump doing.......
« Last post by Add Homonym on February 25, 2017, 05:09:57 AM »
Was America great, when the Gerrymandering favoured Democrats?

When was the great period?
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Chatter / Re: What is Trump doing.......
« Last post by jaimehlers on February 25, 2017, 12:23:46 AM »
I have the feeling that this is going to backfire on Trump pretty badly.  The news media in general is willing to put up with a lot, but I don't think they're willing to put up with a president showing such blatant favoritism.  And when you get right down to it, the outlets that were excluded aren't likely to roll over just so they can suck hind teat again.
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Abstinence would prevent abortions.  I think that stands scientifically not religiously.  I remain pro-choice. 

It does.  And yet, it has been proven that people will NOT abstain.  So, jibbajabbering about it is pointless.
Just to add on a small point to illustrate why the "abstinence only" idea is so badly flawed, evolutionary psychology makes it clear that those who are more willing/capable of abstaining from sex will be much more likely to ultimately take themselves out of the gene pool, leaving only those who are less willing/capable of abstention.  So it really does not matter that science shows that abstinence prevents abortions, because science also shows that abstinence results in failing to reproduce.  It is clear which of the two is a greater problem as far as the human race as a whole.

Also, I just noticed something, junebug.  How do you jive your pro-choice stance with your willingness to allow abortion to be banned in favor of other issues, such as global warming and wealth inequality?  Abortion must be available for the term "pro-choice" to be meaningful.  I'm honestly curious about this.
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Screwtape I have said several times I don't agree with forced counseling.  I don't agree with counselors not counseling.

Awesome.  Then on these points we are in complete agreement.  The only thing I can see where we might disagree is giving in to the forced birthers and allowing them to mandate counseling which isn't counseling.  You seem to be open to that.  I'm not.

Everybody's panties got in wad because I said mental illness can lead to abortion.

But that's not what you initially said.  You said multiple abortions were the result of mental illness.
 
My therapist who is an expert is right and you are wrong and I will always take her word over yours. 

Yeah.  I don't get a warm fuzzy that anyone here is talking about the same things.

In fact she said this website is no good for me.  My intelligence is constantly under scrutiny.  Which hurts my self esteem. 

She might be right. Has she read the posts?  Has she read your posts?

Your communication in this thread is aggressive.

That's off topic.  If you'd like to give me communication pointers, I'd be open to it in another thread.  Here, it is just a tangent. Your communication might also be aggressive, by the way.

If sex doesn't cause suffering why is there this thing called abortion?

Because kids cause suffering?

You resent educating someone on abortion issues? 

I resent having to drag you kicking and screaming every inch of the way.  I'd thought that by now I'd earned a little trust and credibility with you. That if I say something you'd at least consider it without going off half cocked.  Instead, its a fight every step of the way, and you don't seem to have listened to anything I've said.

You didn't teach jack shit.

Well, that's too bad.  Your loss.

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Chatter / Re: What is Trump doing.......
« Last post by LoriPinkAngel on February 24, 2017, 11:28:44 PM »
Getting ever closer to a dictatorship, Trump barred certain news organizations from the latest press briefing.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/9d04bb7ccf60468987c582b4ee9c7e24/white-house-bars-major-news-outlets-media-gaggle
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Chatter / Re: "What are you listening to now"... take three...
« Last post by jdawg70 on February 24, 2017, 10:57:26 PM »
Artist: Del Shannon
Track: Runaway
Can be posted without witty third parameter factor: 10


Artist: Icona Pop
Track: I Love It
Insert joke about Sweden potential factor: No there wasn't an incident


Artist: Al Hirt
Track: Green Hornet Theme
I wanna fight crime and ninjas factor: 7


Artist: The Barberettes
Track: Barbara Ann(Barberettes) (Beach Boys cover)
Would put something here but all my brain can do is say 'Barberettes'


Artist: The Sundays
Track: Folk Song
Recommended listening position: Eyes closed, mind cleared

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After that last pm you sent me Junebug I give up. I tried to be decent, but it's obvious to me by now I just can't win here.

You weren't aggressive.  You were empathetic.  I don't know what she sent you, but if this is anything like past cases, your empathetic approach may have made you a target for abuse.  I, for example, received no PM (negative or otherwise) at any point, yet I outright called her abusive.

Empathy is powerful, unless the target of the empathy is a practiced abuser.  In that case, then empathy is an opportunistic crack through which abuse can be carried out.  You can hurt someone who's being empathetic far worse than you can hurt someone who's being aggressive.

I suspect that's why you're a target in ways that I, for example, am not.  Because you're easier for her to hurt.
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Chatter / Re: What is Trump doing.......
« Last post by Add Homonym on February 24, 2017, 09:21:54 PM »
If you have a gay guy calling gays faggots, and transgender people mentally ill, the right likes it.

Ultimately, a problem for the right is that Milo is not all that right. He is a free speech defender, and to do that he has to say offensive things. The easiest offensive things are supplied by the right, because they harbour no minorities.
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