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Religion & Society / Re: Hello, atheists who did you vote for?
« Last post by John 3 16 on December 02, 2016, 04:23:50 PM »
And with all people, if you're going to be murdered, you're most likely going to be murdered by someone you know who is of more or less the same background as you. Therefore, for your own protection, it's probably best that the law discriminate against people like you, including you. Right?
Just like I said earlier, There are US Laws for US citizens. What does domestic problems have anything to do with immigration policy?
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Religion & Society / Re: Hello, atheists who did you vote for?
« Last post by John 3 16 on December 02, 2016, 04:21:46 PM »
If you take the Department of Homeland Security at all seriously,
It seems you know vetting process better than the FBI.
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2016/aug/12/carlos-beruff/fbi-admitted-it-cannot-properly-vet-middle-eastern/

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then we'd know that domestic terror groups and especially white nationalist and sovereign citizen type groups pose a much greater threat than Islamic terrorism.
So you are welcoming refugees because they are less dangerous?
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Religion & Society / Re: Hello, atheists who did you vote for?
« Last post by Timo on December 02, 2016, 04:14:53 PM »
And with all people, if you're going to be murdered, you're most likely going to be murdered by someone you know who is of more or less the same background as you. Therefore, for your own protection, it's probably best that the law discriminate against people like you, including you. Right?
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Religion & Society / Re: Hello, atheists who did you vote for?
« Last post by Timo on December 02, 2016, 04:12:05 PM »
One more thing, are you a Christian? If so, I'd refer you to the parable of the good Samaritan and ask if you think you're a good neighbor.
Good Samaritan takes care of people who are in need, such as providing food, water, and shelter.  Trump agreed to provide lots of things for Syrian refugees.  Even some forms of protection but not on our soil.
There is nothing wrong with showing compassion for the needy, I actually support policies like that.
But good president think about his people first.  Just like a good father keeps his family on top priority.

I don't knowingly invited people into my house which possibly could hurt my family even if the possibility is .00001%.

...if you knowingly invite anyone into your house there is a non-zero chance that they might hurt your family. The point of bringing up the percentage of refugees that have actually engaged in acts of terror is that it is a vanishingly small minority. If you take the Department of Homeland Security at all seriously, then we'd know that domestic terror groups and especially white nationalist and sovereign citizen type groups pose a much greater threat than Islamic terrorism.
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Religion & Society / Re: Hello, atheists who did you vote for?
« Last post by Timo on December 02, 2016, 04:08:42 PM »
John, what percentage of the refugee population has actually engaged in acts of terrorism?
I don't have the exact number but I know one is too many.
Think about if one of your family member was killed by illegal immigrant.

If US citizen commits crime, we have US law to prosecute.

I know more than a few people that were killed by natural born US citizens. How about universal abortions to prevent more natural born citizens from coming into existence?
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Religion & Society / Re: Hello, atheists who did you vote for?
« Last post by John 3 16 on December 02, 2016, 04:03:15 PM »
Are we still talking about immigration policy?
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Religion & Society / Re: Hello, atheists who did you vote for?
« Last post by Backspace on December 02, 2016, 04:01:38 PM »
You are grabbing a straw, very small one too.  If our country were facing terrorist threats from Christian dominant countries and every time there is building and people blow up and I hear "Jesus is Lord!!!!!", I would support "temporary Christian ban immigration policy as well".
Until we figure out what the helllllll is going down.

Sometimes the small straws add up.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/5/dod-presentation-classifies-catholics-evangelicals/
They do.  Let's wait until they add up.

Do you need a calculator?[1]

http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/10-worst-terror-attacks-extreme-christians-and-far-right-white-men
 1. I wanted to use Wikipedia as a cite, but my workplace currently blocks it for security issues - says Wiki's security certificates don't meet standards.  I don't frequent AlterNet, but it was next in line when I Googled "Christian Terrorism".
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Religion & Society / Re: Hello, atheists who did you vote for?
« Last post by Backspace on December 02, 2016, 03:49:21 PM »
And given the wild popularity of "I'm Deplorable" t-shirts, hats, posters, bumper stickers, etc., and the number of people who proudly wear them, I'd be inclined to agree.
I hope you were being sarcastic.  I really do.

I'm perfectly serious.  I have inlaws who proudly declare themselves "deplorable" and revel in all the context Clinton meant in saying it. I'm very lucky my wife doesn't share her family's idiocy.  Google "Deplorable T-Shirts" and witness for yourself all the business Clinton created with her stupid statement.
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Religion & Society / Re: Hello, atheists who did you vote for?
« Last post by John 3 16 on December 02, 2016, 03:43:32 PM »
You are grabbing a straw, very small one too.  If our country were facing terrorist threats from Christian dominant countries and every time there is building and people blow up and I hear "Jesus is Lord!!!!!", I would support "temporary Christian ban immigration policy as well".
Until we figure out what the helllllll is going down.

Sometimes the small straws add up.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/5/dod-presentation-classifies-catholics-evangelicals/
They do.  Let's wait until they add up.
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Religion & Society / Re: Hello, atheists who did you vote for?
« Last post by John 3 16 on December 02, 2016, 03:39:42 PM »
One more thing, are you a Christian? If so, I'd refer you to the parable of the good Samaritan and ask if you think you're a good neighbor.
Good Samaritan takes care of people who are in need, such as providing food, water, and shelter.  Trump agreed to provide lots of things for Syrian refugees.  Even some forms of protection but not on our soil.
There is nothing wrong with showing compassion for the needy, I actually support policies like that.
But good president think about his people first.  Just like a good father keeps his family on top priority.

I don't knowingly invited people into my house which possibly could hurt my family even if the possibility is .00001%.

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