Perhaps I should have phrased my wording better: I wasn't talking about Jackie regarding that. I was referring to parents who might try to force their kids to get a sex-change operation at that age. I know Jackie isn't getting a sex-change operation.
What parents are theses? From where do you draw this conclusion that parents might be doing this?
I didn't mean to imply that anyone in particular has done this (that I currently know of) I just meant that it's a possibility.
You're basing your opinions on the imagination of a demonstrably deluded, willfully stubborn man who is sure the moon landing was a hoax, all the scientists in the world
have conspired for centuries
to lie about the age of the earth and how the natural world works, and Satan is actively reading your mind and watching your actions because, despite being clever and witty and good enough to have been Jesus' bff up in heaven, despite having centuries to familiarize himself with how the end will come about, he's still compelled to try and trip you up so he can play with your soul like some demonic cat-and-mouse game forever and ever and ever? Why stop at parents forcing preschoolers to lop off their little willies? Why not lament the sorry state of the world in which all xians ever are rounded up and ground up for a New and Improved Soylent Green, the food that feeds your body and spirit? Soon to be force-fed the public by Obama's Traveling Vaccine-Administering Army? It hasn't happened yet, but any day now, right? After all, what can you expect from a society in which preschool children *might* be sold to Catholic priests for sexual payment for Indulgences?
I apologize for coming across as "drawing a line", I was more trying to express it through what I'm personally familiar with.
I'm not offended at where you draw the line. It's a natural bias to have. It's also a good idea to know about one's cognitive blind spots. So now you know one more about you. Use it for good. What offends me is the quick assumption that crimes of the imagination ought to be taken as legitimately potential threats. That's not just lazy thinking, that has real-world applications that are detrimental [Article: Violent Anti-LGBT Hate Crimes On The Rise After Marriage Equality Ruling]
. That's my daughter at risk out there because people don't bother to think logically, but instead follow where the emotion leads, and fear is a most compelling emotion. Junebug called theists "co-conspirators
" to the violence of fundamentalist, radical religious terrorists. She's got a point, and I think this is as good an illustration as any to support that.
I know that kids who are transgender/gay/lesbian etc. are struggling, especially with society's differing views on such issues and the fact that young kids are still trying to figure things out about the world, let alone themselves. We're starting to learn more about these factors though, and hopefully we can find a way to help society before kinder and less discriminatory. Figuring out childhood can be difficult enough as it is.
See, this is why religion really bothers me. You're clearly a very sympathetic, compassionate person. That your mind would so readily jump to a bizarre, fearful scenario, and you would quickly judge all information you have against this imaginary scenario, shows just how insidious religious doctrine is. It's a mind virus that makes the host sneeze hateful cognitive/belief snot all over the public. Even nice hosts have a disgusting compulsion to spread the vitriol, and they don't even know they're doing it. And people are getting hurt.
CD - I don't want to give you the impression I'm upset at you, because I'm really not. I do want to give you the impression that the thought process here, the one that goes from "Ergerged! I can imagine this horrible scenario!" to "Ermerged! We have to do THIS!" is not conducive to our goals, if our goals include increasing wellness and reducing suffering. If that is your goal, jumping to a fear-based threat model of the world - because it's conceivable - is not going to help you accomplish that. It will actually do the opposite. Skep's world view is a fear-based thread model of the world, and objectively false. And he's not alone in this.