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General Religious Discussion / Re: I have a question about the Jesus genealogy.
« Last post by bgb on Yesterday at 05:03:13 PM »All of this over a fictional character.
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General Religious Discussion / Re: Chariot wheel in the Red Sea. Brooklyn Bridge for Sale too.
« Last post by nogodsforme on Yesterday at 05:01:29 PM »The anti-evolution people should be shouting about how there should be hundreds of transitional chariot wheels in the Red Sea if there was any truth to the story of.....oh. Never mind. 
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General Religious Discussion / Re: Don't expect an atheist president anytime soon
« Last post by jdawg70 on Yesterday at 05:00:41 PM »By the way, did you know the Apollo Moon landings were faked?As was the Battle of Thermopylae and the Renaissance.
I'm calling Poe at this point.
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Religion In The News / Re: Ganesh the aubergine
« Last post by nogodsforme on Yesterday at 04:59:14 PM »Me, a person from leicester, suggesting that hinduism is the true religion then a mere 11 days later lord ganesh reveals himself in aubergine form to the residents of leicester
This can't be coincidence. Could anyone ask for any clearer evidence?
Also: "Lord Ganesh" is eleven characters (counting the space).
As is "In leicester" (if you don't count the space).
Leicester is in the middle of the UK. In the middle of "MrJason" is "ja" - German for "yes", as in "yes", this is clear evidence.
I'm convinced. Wayne would be going bananas!
I don't want to think about what Wayne does with bananas. They are divinely shaped to look that way, by god.
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General Religious Discussion / Re: What do you mean by "Atheist"?
« Last post by nogodsforme on Yesterday at 04:54:59 PM »I'm pretty hardcore as far as all supernatural stuff is concerned. I agree with Penn and Teller about gods, witches, demons, angels, ESP, telepathy, past lives, UFO abductions, near death experiences and so forth: none of it is real.
I've been told by lots of people from different cultures that this or that impossible magical thing really exists, and anyone who thinks about it would agree. And most of those people think that any other culture's magical stuff is hilariously stupid, and any thinking person would know that.
No supernatural beings, forces or power have any evidence, so I am inclined to say none of them exist. If a god ever talks to me, or an alien beams me aboard his ship, I'll be sure to let you know.
I've been told by lots of people from different cultures that this or that impossible magical thing really exists, and anyone who thinks about it would agree. And most of those people think that any other culture's magical stuff is hilariously stupid, and any thinking person would know that.
No supernatural beings, forces or power have any evidence, so I am inclined to say none of them exist. If a god ever talks to me, or an alien beams me aboard his ship, I'll be sure to let you know.
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General Religious Discussion / Re: A Christian against "Divine Command Theory"
« Last post by Mooby on Yesterday at 04:45:24 PM »How can one be a Christian and not believe in DCT? Did God not create everything, and wouldn't everything include the laws of morality?The Divine Command Theory asserts that something is moral solely because God says its moral. In other words, the natural world and moral law are independent of each other, and any overlap between the two is coincidence.
Philosopher_at_large is talking about morality determined by natural law, which is an emergent property of the natural world. In other words, moral law is fully dependent on the natural world.
One who follows DCT acts according to what they believe are moral imperatives because God's word is unquestionable and should be obeyed. Those like Philosopher_at_large (and I) act according to what we believe is moral law because it brings us closer to the ideal state of the universe.
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Chatter / Eurovision
« Last post by magicmiles on Yesterday at 04:43:37 PM »Does this event get any airtime in the USA? I imagine probably only on the cable channels.
Anyway, for the uninitiated:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ellievhall/the-most-absurd-moments-of-eurovision-2013
It's basically an awful lot of fun to watch some very obscure entertainment acts from all over Europe.
My firends started a chocolate key-change game. The idea was to eat a piece of chocolate every time there was a key change in a song. They reckon in one song from Romania they gained 2 kg.
Anyway, for the uninitiated:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ellievhall/the-most-absurd-moments-of-eurovision-2013
It's basically an awful lot of fun to watch some very obscure entertainment acts from all over Europe.
My firends started a chocolate key-change game. The idea was to eat a piece of chocolate every time there was a key change in a song. They reckon in one song from Romania they gained 2 kg.
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General Religious Discussion / Re: What do you mean by "Atheist"?
« Last post by magicmiles on Yesterday at 04:36:17 PM »Thanks for your replies. I hope Jetson clarifies his position also, but he seems to be amuch less frequent visitor here these days.
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General Religious Discussion / Re: What do you mean by "Atheist"?
« Last post by Graybeard on Yesterday at 04:31:51 PM »I looked at the Oxford English Dicitionary, it is a poor entry for atheism
These two definitions of agnostic should be kept separate. As far as religion is concerned, only definition 1 applies.
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atheism, n.
Disbelief in, or denial of, the existence of a God. [EditGB: this should, of course, be "the existence of a god or gods."]
agnostic, n. and adj.
1. A person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of immaterial things, especially of the existence or nature of God.
2. In extended use: a person who is not persuaded by or committed to a particular point of view; a sceptic. Also: person of indeterminate ideology or conviction; an equivocator.
These two definitions of agnostic should be kept separate. As far as religion is concerned, only definition 1 applies.