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Chatter / Re: What are you watching on TV?
« Last post by carstensenscott on June 24, 2017, 12:29:23 PM »
Wilfred(US). My son begged me to watch. Hilarious.
Ill watch Aussie version next.
General Religious Discussion / Re: Genesis 3:22
« Last post by albeto on June 24, 2017, 11:22:44 AM »
Isn't his perfection a later invention of the character? Moses' Yahweh had to prove himself against another god, helping Moses to win his wizard duel. He couldn't see what the Israelites were doing in the shadow of the mountain when he was talking with Moses. He creeped around the camp at night, stepping in so much shit he had to make a Rule about burying their shit outside of the camp. He couldn't fight against superior weaponry, like iron chariots. My understanding was that in the beginning he was the Israelite's god, then he became the strongest god in the region, then eventually the only one.

You say who would worship such a being, and I think Xians today don't think about it this way because they first believe, and then after their beliefs are established they find themselves in need of defending this being. They come up with flimsy explanations like the other so-called "gods" were demons or figments of the imagination of the people and btw, ywhw was always super powerful and super smart so his genocides must have been a good idea we simply can't understand this side of heaven.
Chatter / Re: What are you watching on TV?
« Last post by Jag on June 24, 2017, 10:52:45 AM »
We just started watching series 2 of "F is for Family" on Netflix. On my own, I'll soon start the next series (5? 6?) of "Wentworth", my partner hasn't followed that one with me. At some point, I'll start the next series of "Orange is the New Black" too.
General Religious Discussion / Re: Genesis 3:22
« Last post by wheels5894 on June 24, 2017, 10:43:30 AM »
True , but who would worship a being that made mistakes that resulted in lots of deaths of innocent people....
Religion & Society / Re: The world we are finding ourselves in
« Last post by jaimehlers on June 24, 2017, 10:32:13 AM »
If you're going to do things like this, Death over Life, then it's not going to matter how many times you reintroduce yourself.

There's a lot of crap going on in reality.  Nobody denies that.  But it is up to us to do something positive about it, rather than letting ourselves be seduced into thinking that we're stuck with it.

And to be blunt, showing videos that have nothing but clip after clip of people being jerks to each other and hurting each other, while making comments like "meanwhile in reality" is the latter, full stop.  When you do things like that, you're part of the problem.  Because you're effectively breaking down hope and helping to normalize that kind of crap.

If you don't being told that, then I suggest you get off of your butt and do what you can to prevent things like that.
Introductions / Re: Allow me to try this again a third time.
« Last post by One Above All on June 24, 2017, 10:19:13 AM »
I hope this "proof of fairies gods" is as disappointing and predictable as I expect it to be.
Religion & Society / Re: The world we are finding ourselves in
« Last post by shnozzola on June 24, 2017, 10:18:43 AM »
   DOL, I'm not sure if you are trolling goody-2-shoes people like myself, who think everyone is basically the same, or if you have the mentality, the same as ISIS, that certain groups should be eradicated because they are wrong.   If the second, the challenge humanity needs to solve, is how to calm this "us vs them" mentality down, so everyone can again safely visit the great pyramid,  or walk the streets of Cuba, or drink tea in Pyongyang, or, as a transgender child with religious parents, not have to live under a bridge, or, as a black man, enter a  town in the southern U.S. where "No Niggers" is still painted on the road.
Chatter / Re: What are you watching on TV?
« Last post by Add Homonym on June 24, 2017, 09:32:08 AM »
I just signed up to Optus 100GB 4G for $70 with free access to Netflix. This has been a boon to Australian rural dwellers, or at least those who noticed it. Eh! will most likely not notice it.

This means that even though I have an extensive downloading history, I just tried a few series, because there was a good looking girl on the little square thing.

The first one I tried was Brooklyn 99, which is a half sane version of Angie Tribeca. It's not too bad.

But then I got stuck into The Goodwife, which is fairly good law firm story telling, and by episode 10, it looks like they are going to spin out the story arc for about 10 series. The thing the kids are doing with the photos and babysitter look more and more implausible.

Blacklist 4 is getting a tad boring, even though the plot is getting more complex.

Agents of SHIELD is still doing rather well, with grandiose sci-fi character story telling, even if the scenarios are impossible. Series 4 seems to be mostly about androids swapping out the whole team. Won't be long until nobody can work out if they are all in virtual reality.

Have just done The Handmaid's Tale, which tells the story of USA being taken over by a puritanical coup. The Handmaids are a group of prisoner slaves, who get shared around for baby making. It's a world where they get their eye plucked out for being cheeky to the aunty.

Lucifer series 2 just ended, which means no more Lesley Ann Brandt :-( for a while.

Introductions / Re: Allow me to try this again a third time.
« Last post by Death over Life on June 24, 2017, 08:31:16 AM »
Alright, since this thread moves a bit fast and I lost my response, I am going to reply in a summarized way.

To Anfauglir, Emma286, and jetson on providing a thread with the evidence of my claims: Don’t worry! The thread is coming soon. I should have it available sometime this weekend. Some of the questions that you have asked will be answered in that thread.

To jetson, albeto, and Emma286 on defining what I mean when I say God and Deity: This answer will be answered and explained in the thread when I post it. Remember, Pagans don’t believe in God like the way monotheists do. I just have a small fear that even after I show you the evidence, you are going to have a monotheistic interpretation of it despite this is how Pagans view Gods. All I ask and request on your behalf, when I present you the evidence, look at it with a clean slate and not with a Judeo-Christian-Islamic mindset as to what a Deity is. I’ll explain the Pagan mindset of Deity in the thread. We are still atheists on the monotheistic religions.

I do need to address jetson’s post though:

If you insist that there are actual gods based on "facts and Truths", then I have no doubt that you will be able to demonstrate this without resorting to faith, belief, and other forms of vacuous proclamations that the rest of us should accept.

Within the Pagan Pantheon, there are many Gods where once you find out their meaning, you realize that they will have to be resorted to faith, belief, and other forms of vacuous proclamations. I will agree there are some Deities that cannot be proven other than through those methods. However, once I delve into that subject, it will make sense in the end.

So, out of respect for this problem, I will not prove all of the Gods at once. I will prove the physical Gods, the ones with tangible, physical qualities first. That way once we get the tangible, physical, empirical out of the way, we can delve into these Gods.

To velkyn on defining Odalism: I had multiple responses for you, all of which ended up being deleted before I could post them. If you don’t mind, I would like to make a thread separate from the Deities about Odalism in general. Are you alright with this? I will say, I looked into Thule Society, and as far as I can tell, it is nothing like it. Perhaps I am wrong because I didn’t go in depth with it, but from what I’ve seen, there are 2 entirely different meanings and purposes between the 2.

To jdawg70, shnozzola, and albeto on my use of parenthesis: This is such a huge question that I am going to have to make a thread specifically for this question. There are a lot of misconceptions regarding the parenthesis, and I will explain my use and clarification of such in the thread dedicated to this topic!

Specifically to shnozzola:

   I'm hoping the (((they))) means something opposite, DOL.  Hoping you are poking fun at humanity's neverending tribalism -  Jew vs Gentile, Jew vs Arab, Jew vs Christian, Jew vs Odalist, Hutu vs Tutsi, North Korean vs South Korean, Atheist vs Theist, black vs white, Protestant vs Catholic, Trump lover vs Trump hater - on and on, dwelling on our differences. Always (((us))) vs (((them))) so we can demean the (((other))).  How small minded, right?

I am a tribalist myself, so no, it’s not poking fun at tribalism! It’s about something far greater than tribalism, which will be explained in the thread. Odalism is a tribalist belief system.
General Religious Discussion / Re: Genesis 3:22
« Last post by YouCantHandleTheTruth on June 24, 2017, 07:43:56 AM »
I do like that point about God not having excuses  :)

The obvious excuses that are constantly made for God could have been avoided had the writers of the Bible not claimed God to be perfect.  I'm surprised they didn't say that he was capable of mistakes and doing the best he can.  We're made in his image, and we make mistakes.  Therefore, God makes mistakes, but he also is capable of doing a lot of good, just like us.

Doesn't that seem like it may have been a more believable story?  I mean, not if you don't believe in God of course, but for believers?  They wouldn't have to keep making excuses for God.  The writers of the Bible could have put verses in there like there are some things God can't do, but he still loves you and holds a place for you in heaven, etc.  By making him this perfect being that can do anything, it makes him unbelievable as a character because we can compare it to what happens in the world on a daily basis.
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