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Religion In The News / Re: This Is More Than About Gay Marriage
« Last post by Nam on Yesterday at 08:52:14 PM »
Quote from: Airyaman
But I stopped posting in that thread because it seems you can't be against the way something goes down politically without being smeared unfairly as being a homophobe.

This may not say one person, or many persons, but it reads as if you're talking about more than one person. It seems like a generalisation of those of us who were speaking to you.

I like Jay at IGI. I don't agree with 99% of what he believes to be true, and if I wasn't a homebody[1] I'd probably be there and here and other places arguing with people. My point is: name calling is part of it, if you can't put that person in their place for stating something that you find to be untrue then you'll most likely run from all debates.

Not saying you're that specific type but one person said something you didn't like in reference to who you are as a person; prove them wrong, don't generalise the situation.

I think it's healthy to disagree and argue points but if you ain't what you're being called, either prove it or ignore the person.

-Nam
 1. a person only being able to stay in one place rather then many; though I frequent other websites, I only argue with people here on a regular basis
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Chatter / Re: Happy anniversary to ME!!
« Last post by Defiance on Yesterday at 08:48:42 PM »

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Religion In The News / Re: Hugs lead to sex!
« Last post by jynnan tonnix on Yesterday at 08:38:52 PM »
I like hugs...
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Chatter / Re: Happy anniversary to ME!!
« Last post by ParkingPlaces on Yesterday at 08:30:16 PM »
My wife and I celebrate 20 years of marriage today.  She's my sanity, and my joy, and my partner.  I'm proud to wear her ring, and we both look forward to what the future brings our family!!

July 1? that is my 20th anniversary as well. Congrats!

Congrats as well. Please tell your wife that Bob in Montana said congratulations to her too.
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Religion In The News / Re: Hugs lead to sex!
« Last post by Defiance on Yesterday at 08:14:47 PM »
It's true. I once hugged my little sister for more than 20 seconds, and now she's a part of my family.

Beware!
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Science / Re: Randomness and Determinism
« Last post by Defiance on Yesterday at 08:06:08 PM »
It's like swimming in syrup, with pancakes randomly appearing every so often.
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Science / Re: Randomness and Determinism
« Last post by jaimehlers on Yesterday at 07:56:23 PM »
Forget about parallel branches, I can assure you that I have no doubles in parallel universes who have made the wrong decision and become Christians, and Skep has no doubles in parallel universes who are atheist. Parallel universes always mean that other versions of yourself have the wrong beliefs and are not going to the correct heaven, so the idea must be wrong.
Did you seriously reject a major branch of quantum physics because of a blind, unsupportable assertion that you would never in any world have been a Christian?  I'm guessing you don't actually know what the many-worlds interpretation is about, because I can't imagine anyone who does saying something like that about it.  No, that is not what parallel universes mean.  I don't pretend to understand them very well, but even I know better than to say something like that.

Quote from: Foxy Freedom
And the physics is not so great either since it is based on the idea that equations are the true reality (in the mind of a god) and universes must conform to it. (The theory is pseudo theist if it assumes that the universe is causal in the mind of a god, and produces its own contradiction that doubles of the theist will go to Hell.)
And this cinches it - you're rejecting it because you think it's a theistic belief, which really has nothing to do with what the theory actually is.  Doing so is no better than a theist, like BibleStudent, rejecting something like evolution because it doesn't match his beliefs of how the world works.

Quote from: Foxy Freedom
The real answer is that results are only potential until they are decided, because the equation is not reality.
Which is, again, a blind, unsupportable assertion.  I am quite well aware that equations are not reality; they are attempts by us to describe a reality that is mostly hidden from our senses.  That being said, who are you to declare what the real answer is?  I don't pretend to know that there are actually many worlds, I simply said that it didn't make sense for potentials to vanish into nothingness.
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Religion In The News / Re: This Is More Than About Gay Marriage
« Last post by Airyaman on Yesterday at 07:49:32 PM »
I don't think I referred, inferred, suggested, or outright stated you were a homophobe in the topic.  I don't think anyone seriously debating you did, either. Who called you a homophobe?

Actually, I just looked it seems you equate one person[1] calling you one as everyone calling you one.

-Nam
 1. One Above All

I never said it was more than one person.  I never mentioned you. I only debated with two people in that thread, so 1/2 called me that. and the other half called me "asinine, stupid, ignorant, and biased" simply because I could actually support my position.
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Religion In The News / Re: This Is More Than About Gay Marriage
« Last post by Nam on Yesterday at 07:37:16 PM »
Glad to hear it. The increased acceptance of gays, not the continuing prejudice against atheists. You still have more white people and higher humidity than Iran.[1]

What do your neighbors think of Brett Jones the gay Navy Seal in Alabama? http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-gay-navy-seal-20150529-story.html#page=1

People won't sit near him and his husband at their son's basketball games, and random folks hand the family slips of paper with bible verses. Like, who in the US south has never heard of the bible? And what do these people want Brett and his husband to do? Get a gay divorce and give their kid to foster care?  :P
 1. Iran might even have better skiing. http://iranskitours.ir/dizin-ski-resort.html

And this story is an example of why I said it was the wrong way to legalize same sex marriage in the courts as opposed to allowing each state to do it. You can make it legal, but in a state like mine, you can't make it acceptable. I know, I live with these people. You can't change people's minds with a court ruling.

But I stopped posting in that thread because it seems you can't be against the way something goes down politically without being smeared unfairly as being a homophobe. I felt it was best to just leave it alone.

That is one of the reasons I do not tell anyone locally of my atheism. People would treat me much the same as this couple. My son would lose friends because of it. People would want to "save me". My ex-wife would probably want to stop sharing custody of my son.

Of course I do not care for the prejudice of my neighbors, but I also accept it as misguided and mostly driven by religion. I know, because I was totally against homosexuality for 20 years as a Christian.

Sure, there are some Christians who accept it, and more and more every day are, but it is slow going in most areas when the predominant form of Christianity is evangelical.

You can't change these people over night.

I don't think I referred, inferred, suggested, or outright stated you were a homophobe in the topic.  I don't think anyone seriously debating you did, either. Who called you a homophobe?

Actually, I just looked it seems you equate one person[2] calling you one as everyone calling you one.

-Nam
 2. One Above All
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General Religious Discussion / Re: Is there such thing as a selfless deed?
« Last post by natlegend on Yesterday at 05:39:12 PM »
A murder victim is not selfless. What a ridiculous argument.
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