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General Religious Discussion / Re: God Strikes Again
« Last post by stuffin on Yesterday at 09:43:50 AM »
Sounds like the Karma Demon. They will both need to be exorcized.

That a Shin Sekai Yori reference?  I don't have any real familiarity with it but that is what comes up when trying to find an image of a karma demon.

OK, did that, saw it, not going to go any further. Just made up the Karma Demon based on the what was happening in the thread.

PS, Screw wants a Darwin.
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General Religious Discussion / Re: Hey check this out.
« Last post by jdawg70 on Yesterday at 09:43:12 AM »
I don't know to really interpret these tips for researching - on their face, the tips sound quite awful.  Well, maybe not awful but I am quite concerned with "try to play pretend to get yourself in the right mind set" without any sort of indication as to what 'right mind set' might mean.  It just seems way to easy to conflate 'the right mind set' with 'blind acceptance'.  The 'take notes on supposed "facts" that are given' line is incredibly loaded.  Throwing the word 'supposed' and tossing in the scare quotes embeds into the listeners' noggin that facts that they do not already accept are likely to be false, which is a really bad way to research anything.


I'll tell you this much, my eyebrows did a Zachary Quinto when the kid misused the word 'Theory'.
Spock or Sylar?

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My mind, in a Strax voice, went, "Who have you been talking to, BOY?!"
And we will not melt him with acid.
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General Religious Discussion / Re: Magic or a Miracle?
« Last post by Graybeard on Yesterday at 09:32:45 AM »
Heya Greybeard, welcome back! ;-)

The only difference I’ve so far noticed is that God is (apparently) responsible for one while different supernatural beings are responsible for the other.

And seconding what Nick said.
I suppose I should as what the difference between God and a supernatural being is...
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General Religious Discussion / Re: Magic or a Miracle?
« Last post by Emma286 on Yesterday at 09:22:41 AM »
Heya Greybeard, welcome back! ;-)

The only difference I’ve so far noticed is that God is (apparently) responsible for one while different supernatural beings are responsible for the other.

And seconding what Nick said.
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General Religious Discussion / Re: Magic or a Miracle?
« Last post by Nick on Yesterday at 09:21:32 AM »
I would have loved to have seen their faces when you asked that.  And the conversation they had after leaving.
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Doesn’t seem to me like any Christian (or indeed anyone) is saved from the horrible things (according to what I know of the bible story) that God can do on a whim!
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General Religious Discussion / Magic or a Miracle?
« Last post by Graybeard on Yesterday at 09:18:53 AM »
A couple of Jehovah’s Witnesses came to the door the other day. At some point in the ensuing discussion[1] I asked the standard question – “Do you believe in fairies and wizards?” and its supplementary “Do you believe in “magic”?”

Obviously, they didn’t believe in fairies and wizards or magic. So I asked what the difference was between “doing magic” and “doing a miracle” – they didn’t know but did say “It’s not magic if God does it.” I asked them to explain, but they could not.

So does anyone here see a difference between “doing magic” and “doing a miracle”?
 1. I always have discussions with them because that wastes their time and prevents them from speaking to one more person who might be fooled by their delusion – Jesus realised that there would be people like me when he said M't:10:14: And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
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Chatter / Re: It's not fair.
« Last post by Emma286 on Yesterday at 08:33:29 AM »
That is disappointing to hear on Baldwin (on his being an asshole etc, while I get that’s opinion am inclined to see that you’re not saying it for nothing Screwtape). :-( I’ve really liked some of his performances in some of the movies I’ve seen him in. In younger days (his and mine) going to admit I used to find him very hot!

Of course, looks are no indication of what someone is like as a person and neither are someone’s acting skills. I know he and Kim Basinger divorced and seem to recall hearing something about her having problems with him. Still, such story accounts can be wrong!
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Chatter / Re: It's not fair.
« Last post by Emma286 on Yesterday at 06:16:04 AM »
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Baldwin's statements come across as someone not being able to see the forest for the trees. As you say, he should at least be taking a more neutral (i.e., genuinely skeptical) position on this topic. Admittedly, that is difficult for most of us.

How come on the skepticism? Is there good reason to suspect that he could still be guilty - regardless of investigation not revealing anything? (At least i’m assuming it hasn’t going by what I’ve read in here so far).
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General Religious Discussion / Re: Hey check this out.
« Last post by Fiji on Yesterday at 02:56:47 AM »
I don't know to really interpret these tips for researching - on their face, the tips sound quite awful.  Well, maybe not awful but I am quite concerned with "try to play pretend to get yourself in the right mind set" without any sort of indication as to what 'right mind set' might mean.  It just seems way to easy to conflate 'the right mind set' with 'blind acceptance'.  The 'take notes on supposed "facts" that are given' line is incredibly loaded.  Throwing the word 'supposed' and tossing in the scare quotes embeds into the listeners' noggin that facts that they do not already accept are likely to be false, which is a really bad way to research anything.


I'll tell you this much, my eyebrows did a Zachary Quinto when the kid misused the word 'Theory'.
My mind, in a Strax voice, went, "Who have you been talking to, BOY?!"
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