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Chatter / Re: Gun Fails
« Last post by Mr. Blackwell on Yesterday at 09:20:59 AM »
This a truly scary video when you think about it.

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You're judging from the perspective of the 21st century..

Isn't this the same perspective that present day Christians have?! I should have made it clear; I'm talking about present day believers in this book.

Thing is though, it doesn't really help dispel the notion that witches are not real when you got stuff like this goin on.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39090334
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At the stroke of midnight on Friday, followers of witchcraft across the US performed a mass spell designed to stop the president doing harm.

A Facebook group devoted to the ritual has attracted over 10,500 likes, and coined the hashtag #magicresistance.
The development has sparked fury among Christian conservatives, who have accused the witches of "declaring spiritual war".

So, yeah. I think our secular laws are having a positive impact of our lives in modern times. We've come a long way since Salem.
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General Religious Discussion / Re: Thou Shalt Not Suffer a Witch to Live.
« Last post by jaimehlers on Yesterday at 09:17:25 AM »
Isn't this the same perspective that present day Christians have?! I should have made it clear; I'm talking about present day believers in this book.
A lot of people who live in this century don't actually have what we would consider a 21st century perspective.  By which I mean a rational, technologically savvy modern outlook.  Even people who live in America (or other western countries), where this view is preeminent, don't always have it.  People get intimidated by computers and think that those who can fix them are wizards, for example.  I would say that there's an actual majority of people on the planet who do not have that kind of perspective - it requires education and knowledge, which isn't accessible to most people.  And, of course, just having access to education and knowledge isn't enough, either.
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I was thinking along the lines of distraction/relaxation exercises. Such as simple breathing, counting and informal brief mindfulness meditation exercises for example.
How do you see this working Emma? These are all simple techniques, but members of this forum have no way to make another adult participate in them.

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I figure if the suggestions aren't followed then it's up to the staff here to decide what the best course of action is. Isn't that kind of thing up to the administrators and moderators here, as a staff team, to decide? I've always assumed that's how things work here though maybe I've assumed wrong!
Well, sort of. People are expected to abide by the rules of the forum, which aren't particularly restrictive, and to manage their own behavior.

Here's the thing Emma - no one wants to be the forum police, and no one wants to be forced to act as another members therapist. We're all adults here, and as such, we're expected to have the capacity to navigate a discussion. I think if you want to put together a list of calming techniques or exercises, that's perfectly fine. But I assure you, telling an adult to calm down and take a deep breath is more likely to bring the existing uproar to entirely new levels of fury.

Regardless of junebug's previous accusation against me, I really am a trained and qualified professional mediator. The things you are suggesting can work, but it touches on the idea of "good faith" - the idea that all parties are actually committed to solving the problem.

That's an entirely different set or circumstances than someone not being able to control their frustration and/or anger on an anonymous website.
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It actually isn't true that only fools could fail to see ....

Blah Blah Blah....Enough with your rational discourse! Emma IS a witch! She turned me into a newt!

A newt?

I got better
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Evolution & Creationism / Re: Creationism Is Not Science
« Last post by wheels5894 on Yesterday at 09:02:24 AM »
For what it is worth, the main problem is that Creationism has not been arrived at through scientific investigation. What has happened is that people have declared it to be the case and have then looked around at the world to make 'predictions' which are, of course, generalised observations adopted to bolster up the idea. Those are not predictions.


Evolution theory predicts that no fossil will ever be found in the wrong layers of rock in which it ought to be. So, for example, rabbits don't appear alongside the fossils of ancient fish. Indeed, all it would take to kill off evolution would be to find a fossil like that and the theory would be falsified yet I have not seen any creationists out looking for such things,


On the other hand, Creation and the Flood predict that we will find a layer of dead animals of all types (because they were all created in one week, remember?) and these would all be a in a single layer. When will we see a creationist out there looking for the layer? Never, I suggest, as the work done already shows that such a layer does not exist and Creationists know this so don't go looking.


Still, it is open to anyone to prove evolution false - just one fossil could kill it[1] and to find that layer of dead animals showing the flood. Until then, though, creation is a desk-based read the bible sort of research that doesn't have anything useful to say - except on Sunday in the sermon of course.
 1. and maybe a Nobel prize for the research...
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General Religious Discussion / Re: Thou Shalt Not Suffer a Witch to Live.
« Last post by Jag on Yesterday at 08:52:26 AM »
^More than one contemporary politician has engaged the services of a spiritual leader to protect them from witches.  I'm with you Ron, going "wtf?"

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Pity, This sounds like the sort of shady dealing more akin to the criminal classes that clean-living Christians. Still, maybe Jesus told them to sell the ark after all - who knows?
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I've seen a bit about this. Is it likely they will succeed? Living in Scotland I have no idea how US law works in this regard.

A part of the dynamic in the U.S. is the message from some Christians being "persecuted" - not allowed to "practice their faith" as secular groups and atheists are always on the attack to shut them down in various ways. A legal move against this particular idiot will generate sympathy from other Christians which will unleash the social media armies and the courts of public opinion.

Whether they succeed or not will depend on the level of legal scrutiny - or how far it goes in the court system if challenged. There are some lower courts that occasionally do the right thing, but it seems that the higher courts have a better track record overall.
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I've seen a bit about this. Is it likely they will succeed? Living in Scotland I have no idea how US law works in this regard.
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