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Religion & Society / Re: "Atheists Disgust Us"
« Last post by screwtape on Today at 07:38:41 AM »
People widely assume that if they reject the notion of God, they also reject essential ethical values.

It's not assumed.  It is taught.
General Religious Discussion / Re: JW visited
« Last post by screwtape on Today at 07:28:30 AM »
I've never even seen such a survey where I could say I was one of Jehovah's Witnesses and I live right in the middle of the "Bible belt".  I've seen surveys that say "Christian" but that's it.  If they can't manage to survey me then I'm quite certain they haven't surveyed to the ends of the world.  An accurate outside poll is not even a possibility.

Just as an fyi, surveys and polls are not the same a census, where they attempt to count every single person.  And even a census has a margin of error.  Surveys and polls use statistical sampling and if done correctly are extremely accurate with a very small margin of error.  It should not count against anything that you personally were not counted. 

General Religious Discussion / negative hippo; a resort for theists
« Last post by eh! on Today at 02:29:34 AM »
new to this stuff, I thought this guy gives a decent non technical intro;

Religion & Society / Re: What vouchers and charter schools are really for
« Last post by Nam on Today at 01:01:51 AM »
Bring her to the school in my home town.  We had 210 students in high school 10 years ago.  This year 50.  We have a good school...just no students.

I couldn't imagine that.

General Religious Discussion / Re: Probabilities of God's existence debate
« Last post by eh! on Today at 12:27:10 AM »
"Christians are always claiming a high ground that doesn't exist. "We have incredibly high moral standards which, of course, we can't live up to, but the moral standards we can't live up to are superior the moral standards you can't live up to, so you should do it our way!" That's too long for a slogan, too empty to be a lesson, and too stupid to be smart. Yet it attracts millions. Weird."

printed and filed, will be distributed.
what's up with the catholics here, luk like dom, is now bordering on some new age misrepresentation of hindu quantum mechanicalism woo.

what evidence does luk have that other universes exist (about as much as his god exists AKA wishful thinking).

not even Everett claimed his parallel universe was anything more than a nice fantasy to avoid some technical problems.

it is un-falsifiable and not accessible to experiment.

more to do with philosophy of science than science proper at our current state of knowledge at least.
Hmm whispered in their ears by God. I say whisper because I believe that what God said could have been misinterpreted by our limited human mind.

And where does the fault lie but with your concept of "God" for choosing a method of communication that he knew could/would be "misinterpreted". You cannot escape this explanation going solely by your own stated opinion. An alleged "God" that can create an entire universe and everything in it from scratch should surely be capable of conversing in a coherent manner to those he wished to impart his word to.
Religion In The News / Re: The peaceful majority are irrelevant!
« Last post by natlegend on Yesterday at 10:47:19 PM »
Have we learned nothing from 10+ years of war in this area.  These people do not like us or want us there.  Oh, they will use us from time to time but like way.  We on the other hand are only there for OIL.  Trillions have been spent, many lives wasted.  All that money and man power could have been used to develop alternative energy forms.  If we continue to fight for OIL this will turn into a 100 year war and bankrupt this nation.  Who is going to pay for this round of war?  I thought we needed to cut back?  It is nuts.  36,000 die each year in the US alone from guns.  2 or 3 reporters get their heads cut off and we need to go to war.  We have no business over there.  Pack up and get out.  Their civil war will last as long as they want it to.

Yes and...

I could easily continue my rant, but I'll keep this one short. The main participants in these conflicts like conflict. They enjoy the game. They like the death. They accept their own losses as long as they get to cause death on the other side. It is too much fun.

None of the major players will ask for peace unless they get bored.

Religion In The News / Re: The peaceful majority are irrelevant!
« Last post by natlegend on Yesterday at 10:43:42 PM »
Radical religion may be part of the problem. Everyone else is the rest of the problem.

I know I said I was done with this topic. Sorry, but I would like to point out that the above sentence is kinda my position as well.
Where do you get your evidence that God is good? 
Where do you get your evidence that God doesn't punish people?   
It is taught. I will refer you to the CCC for more information.


Where does the CCC get their evidence that God is good?
Where does the CCC get their evidence from that God doesn't punish people?
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