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Seeing as Jewish rabbis have said they consider all five books of the Torah to be mythology/historical fiction... I still think that at least Jesus's existence is factually true.

Which facts lead you to this conclusion?

If I recall correctly, a few sources outside the Bible mention Jesus by name.  So at the very least, I believe that Jesus existed as a person.
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General Religious Discussion / Re: Noah's Island???
« Last post by nogodsforme on Today at 11:24:08 AM »
In that cartoon, Noah would not even be able to walk from one end of the boat to the other. All the animals would be up to their necks in their own dung. And there is no space for all the food and fresh water, another inconvenient fact left out of the bible tale. Where are the immense piles of plastic turds? Where is the gigantic pool of plastic vomit from seasick animals who had never ridden on a boat before? Where is the plastic carnage from the predators eating everything else?

How long just to gather and load all the supplies? Where would the staging area for this massive project be? In a society where everyone else, down to the children, was so evil and degenerate that they deserved death by drowning, wouldn't the neighbors just brain Noah and clan with rocks, steal all the supplies, and dismantle the boat for the wood?[1]

These images would not bother us, any more than the statues of Greek gods in museums, except for the many otherwise intelligent, reasonable people who claim this was a real event, and want it taught as factual history to kids in schools....
 1. And then eat Noah's family and have sex with all the animals while dancing like maniacs in the pouring rain?  &)
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Seeing as Jewish rabbis have said they consider all five books of the Torah to be mythology/historical fiction... I still think that at least Jesus's existence is factually true.

Which facts lead you to this conclusion?
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Introductions / Re: I have returned!
« Last post by Emma286 on Today at 10:50:19 AM »
religious people (and some agnostics/atheists e.g. junebug) appear to think that anyone who asks them a direct question about their religion is "hostile".

Velkyn, I get you and Junebug are having problems (which are really between you both) but why is it you are bringing what's happening with you both in that other recently made thread (regarding Crystal and Defiance) into here like this? :-\ It kind of does come over to me like you're trying to bad mouth her to newcomers because of that other business, from reading that. I get why she's not exactly amongst your favourite people on here, but is this really necessary?
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Reviews / Re: Rate the Last Film You Saw
« Last post by CrystalDragon on Today at 10:07:20 AM »
^That is like a Twilight Zone episode.

Watched The Theory of Everything last night, 8.5/10.  Eddie Redmayne did great as Stephen Hawking (the fact that Stephen himself said at times he almost forgot he wasn't watching a documentary), and I alsmost started crying at one point.  The struggles Stephen goes through are saddening to watch, but him triumphing over it is really inspiring, and Stephen's sense of humor shows in the film.  And the very end of it was sweet. :)

Definitely looking forward to seeing Redmayne in Fantastic Beasts this year even more now. ;D

I've been wanting to see The Theory of Everything for a while...guess I should give up waiting for it to show up on Netflix and just rent the thing. Looking forward to seeing Fantastic Beasts as well. Or, rather, looking forward too seeing whether it looks as though it will be good, then waiting a ridiculously long time before actually seeing it. The premise sounds good, though.

There's a couple trailers on YouTube for it:



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Reviews / Re: Rate the Last Film You Saw
« Last post by jynnan tonnix on Today at 09:59:03 AM »
^That is like a Twilight Zone episode.

Watched The Theory of Everything last night, 8.5/10.  Eddie Redmayne did great as Stephen Hawking (the fact that Stephen himself said at times he almost forgot he wasn't watching a documentary), and I alsmost started crying at one point.  The struggles Stephen goes through are saddening to watch, but him triumphing over it is really inspiring, and Stephen's sense of humor shows in the film.  And the very end of it was sweet. :)

Definitely looking forward to seeing Redmayne in Fantastic Beasts this year even more now. ;D

I've been wanting to see The Theory of Everything for a while...guess I should give up waiting for it to show up on Netflix and just rent the thing. Looking forward to seeing Fantastic Beasts as well. Or, rather, looking forward too seeing whether it looks as though it will be good, then waiting a ridiculously long time before actually seeing it. The premise sounds good, though.
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Introductions / Re: I have returned!
« Last post by Emma286 on Today at 09:45:58 AM »
Hello! It has been to long since I've been here. Some individuals should remember me back a few years ago before I moved to atheistthinktank, and then kind of sort of dropped off the face of the internet. For everybody else, I'm practically new here so I'll make my introduction.

In terms of knowledge, I am an agnostic.
In terms of religion, I am an atheist.
In terms of philosophy, I am a Satanist.

For politics, (and based on some threads I read, I know I'll have a few conversations here) I usually lean left/far left on most issues, but I don't classify myself as a liberal. I generally hate many conservative values, but there are some views where I think they are spot on. For the presidential candidates, I believe we only have 2 great candidates and everybody else is garbage. In my opinion, those 2 candidates are the genuine outsiders, Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump. If Sanders doesn't get the nomination, I'm voting for Trump. If neither get the candidacy, I'm voting third party.

On hobbies and passions, my favorite hobbies are video games, music, professional wrestling, and anything else that relates to it. You get me started on one of these subjects, and I can converse on the subject for eternity (if such an eternity could exist  ;)).

This is just a little bit about me. Those who remember me should remember me, and to all those who are new since my sabbatical, nice to meet you!  :)

Nice to meet you too DOL, and welcome back! I am amongst the few agnostics around here (though leaning strongly in the direction of atheism at this point) and have been here since around last August. Will have to check out the subject of Satanist philosophy at some stage. It's something I'm not knowledgeable about, but sounds to me like that might be quite an interesting subject to find out more on! 8)

What kind of video games are you into? Have to say I've not played any in some time, not since my PS2 stopped working some years ago and various things have taken over offline time too much for me to be able to devote much of it to them!
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General Religious Discussion / Re: God the Pervert
« Last post by CrystalDragon on Today at 09:42:25 AM »
Thanks CD.  I thought it was in a thread you were in.

No prob. :)  Thank velkyn too, she sent me the link in the first place, it was in the thread she made regarding the flood.
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General Religious Discussion / Re: God the Pervert
« Last post by junebug72 on Today at 09:39:10 AM »
those like Baptists, etc., who do, should be simply told that they are deluded.

I have to call out JW's too, I know your etc. includes them but I want to say it out loud after all I've heard from 1 of them.

Trouble is, they would likely just react as if the person telling them that was wrong, being too far gone in their delusion to see otherwise! :(


Oh I wish, no they believe and try to excuse with arguments like well blood was pure then. Okay. &)  There is no excuse for incest.  It's a dirty rotten perversion of the human mind.  How can anybody take this story seriously and still walk away with love for this Jackass of a stupid creator thing? 


Quote from: crystal Dragon
]Yup, in fact I was literally just reading that article before I came to this thread: https://thesuperstitiousnakedape.wordpress.com/2013/11/18/of-course-what-you-say-is-true-but-we-should-not-say-it-publically-13/

Thanks CD.  I thought it was in a thread you were in.
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General Religious Discussion / Re: God the Pervert
« Last post by CrystalDragon on Today at 09:33:14 AM »
^^Didn't I hear on here somewhere that the Jews were saying the first 4-5 books are mythological?  Wouldn't they know better than say, the people that did not write the book, their own religion/history?

Yup, in fact I was literally just reading that article before I came to this thread: https://thesuperstitiousnakedape.wordpress.com/2013/11/18/of-course-what-you-say-is-true-but-we-should-not-say-it-publically-13/
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