While it is true that Catholics and Protestants did not start the second world war, this is not what Junebug has implied. Your response is a red herring which you are using as a straw-man argument. Of course you ignore the fact that Catholics and Protestants went right along with participating in the second world war. I personally don’t blame them for doing so though, as Lukvance is partially right in at least one aspect of what he said, namely that “we had to kill in order to preserve the freedom”. Although that is the point. How can we live up to the standards set by this god if we cannot rely on this god to act to prevent “evil”? We must act to do what your god cannot or will not do. Your god behaves exactly as if he does not exist.
You evidently are not aware of this but Hitler's army was comprised almost entirely of Catholics and Protestants.
Actually, yes, I was aware that Hitler’s army was comprised almost entirely of Catholics and Protestants. Hence why I said:
… Catholics and Protestants went right along with participating in the second world war.
So yes, Catholics and Protestants did start the war.
This is where we disagree then unless you believe that the few in power who ruled the German government at the time represents all Catholics and Protestants. I do not believe that to be the case. Most of the German public was deceived and misled to believe what the German government was doing was at least necessary if not right. The few who could not be deceived or misled feared for their lives or indeed were taken away to prison.
I thought you were being sarcastic, apparently I was wrong and you were quite serious. Your point that Catholics and Protestants started the second world war is debatable in any case.
Clergy even prayed for German victory.
I wouldn’t be surprised if some clergy prayed for German victory. I also wouldn’t be surprised if some clergy also prayed for a swift end to the war and bloodshed. I’m sure many different people prayed for many different outcomes.
It may be a bit of a red herring but it is true.
Actually, if what you said was true then it wouldn’t be a red herring. I thought you were being sarcastic and meant the opposite (that Catholics and Protestants did not start world war II), which would be a red herring. I don’t know if it is true that Catholics and Protestants started the second world war. What is your basis for this claim?
I just find it ironic that the ones that had to be put down by Christians were Christians, or so say said. Something doesn't add up.
Indeed. Of course we know that your god does not do this. Your god allows his creation to kill each other in disputes about what he expects of us instead of showing up and clearly communicating what it is that he expects of us. It is almost exactly as if your god doesn’t exist and humans are just killing each other over their own imaginary beliefs.World War II was not about what God expects of us.
I didn’t exactly say that it was. Although it is clear there was confusion among those who participated in the second world war about what your god expects of us. History is also full of examples of religious wars in which the opposing sides disagree about what their gods expect of us.
It was about a desire for power over others.
In overly simplistic terms, I can agree with that.
Those that take Christ seriously do not kill one another.
Again this is debatable based on perspective. You are awfully close to using the “no true Scotsman” logical fallacy.
We already are at peace.
So God has done something, at least for those that listen.
Has he? Of course if you find people who do what you think your god expects them to do then you conclude that your god has done something. Everyone else isn’t listening apparently. What you are doing here is shooting an arrow into the wall and then drawing the bull’s-eye exactly where the arrow hit after the fact.