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General Religious Discussion / why did god need a universe?
« Last post by eh! on Today at 03:22:42 AM »
was it bored?
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General Religious Discussion / Re: The Bible: Short Version
« Last post by eh! on Today at 03:20:48 AM »
didn't god say you should be out trying to convert all those false xians?

according to the JW's you won't be going to heaven anyway worshipping a three headed god, and according to the jews the messiah hasn't got here yet to say anything,  add it all up skep and you are a religion of one ie SPAG.
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"You are absolutely right. God did do that with the first born sons. But, God allows everyone to die at some point. You may as well ask, "Why did God let my grandma die at age 110?" "

^ oh that is so messed up, get help man.

I suppose you think god did those kids a favour because he made them go to heaven quicker.

dude you are sick, do you want to get to heaven quicker to?
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General Religious Discussion / Re: The Bible: Short Version
« Last post by skeptic54768 on Today at 03:15:06 AM »
seems you should be out preaching to xians then, they are the ones acting like turkeys, south African turkeys that justified apartheid with scripture, Australian turkeys that went on shooting trips to exterminate Australian aborigines, slave owning turkeys in the US, Spanish turkeys...all sorts of turkeys, turkeys everywhere there is xianity.

so many turkeys I can't tell if they are xians acting like turkeys or turkeys acting like xians, how does one even tell exactly???

 you have much work to do.

Yes, Jesus predicted there would be a lot of "turkeys" because "the gate to Heaven is narrow." Jesus will say he never knew them.
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Is it always wrong to murder an innocent child under the age of 10?

Murder is defined as wrong from the outset.  You should use the word "kill".

To your point, though, the answer is "it's always wrong to me".  That is the only moral authority we have.

And as eh! points out, killing the first-born child of everyone in Egypt was apparently not wrong, unless you're calling your own god's supposed actions "wrong".  So, bad example.  Works against you.

is it always right to dash babies heads against rocks and kill every first born ?

This bolded part gets misused a lot.  Your point about the first-born kids is spot-on, but the part about dashing babies' heads against the rocks is an expression of Hebrew sentiment toward the Babylonians[1] for the Babylonians' prior atrocities against the Hebrews.  It is not a command of some sort.  This is one of those instances where a quote really has been taken out of context and no longer reflects its original meaning.
 1. I'm pretty sure it was the Babylonians, might have been a different group.

You are absolutely right. God did do that with the first born sons. But, God allows everyone to die at some point. You may as well ask, "Why did God let my grandma die at age 110?"
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General Religious Discussion / Re: The Bible: Short Version
« Last post by eh! on Today at 03:11:35 AM »
seems you should be out preaching to xians then, they are the ones acting like turkeys, south African turkeys that justified apartheid with scripture, Australian turkeys that went on shooting trips to exterminate Australian aborigines, slave owning turkeys in the US, Spanish turkeys...all sorts of turkeys, turkeys everywhere there is xianity.

so many turkeys I can't tell if they are xians acting like turkeys or turkeys acting like xians, how does one even tell exactly???

they eat turkeys on thanksgiving day don't they??? ;)

 you have much work to do.

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Is it always wrong to murder an innocent child under the age of 10?

Murder is defined as wrong from the outset.  You should use the word "kill".

To your point, though, the answer is "it's always wrong to me".  That is the only moral authority we have.

And as eh! points out, killing the first-born child of everyone in Egypt was apparently not wrong, unless you're calling your own god's supposed actions "wrong".  So, bad example.  Works against you.

is it always right to dash babies heads against rocks and kill every first born ?

This bolded part gets misused a lot.  Your point about the first-born kids is spot-on, but the part about dashing babies' heads against the rocks is an expression of Hebrew sentiment toward the Babylonians[1] for the Babylonians' prior atrocities against the Hebrews.  It is not a command of some sort.  This is one of those instances where a quote really has been taken out of context and no longer reflects its original meaning.
 1. I'm pretty sure it was the Babylonians, might have been a different group.
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General Religious Discussion / Re: The Bible: Short Version
« Last post by skeptic54768 on Today at 03:04:13 AM »
only xians can justify lynching negroes so your fallacy does not hold.

A Christian can't justify that though. We are all equal creatures in God's eyes worthy of respect and love. I honestly can't see a loving Christian doing something like that.

Someone who is faking it, though? Sure, easily. Actions speak louder than words. A Christian and lynching are complete opposites so far away from each other.

If you put a turkey side by side with a human who was gobbling and flapping his arms, no one in their right mind would ask, "Which one is the real turkey and who is pretending?"
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General Religious Discussion / Re: A Question for Atheists:
« Last post by eh! on Today at 03:02:19 AM »
"I am trying to find a logical entry point for a systematic, progressive debate ......"

isn't that kind of self-defeating for a theist who believes in a big magic man in the sky that spoke all matter and energy into existence, just as a starting point???
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General Religious Discussion / Re: A response to "Who is God?"
« Last post by eh! on Today at 03:00:13 AM »
on behalf of all JW's here I take exception to dennis defining god as a triune.
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