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Chatter / Re: Gay Marriage Looking to Win In Ireland
« Last post by Asmoday on Yesterday at 08:24:10 PM »
And I guess that's the point where people should ask them if they actually believe in what they preach. But the chances of that happening are almost zero.

If they actually believed the bible to the inerrant word of God, why would it matter to them that society has decided to allow something the bible strictly forbids? If they actually believed the bible to be the message of an actually existing god, why on earth would they "adjust" the interpretation of that message to meet the standards of today's society just to keep more members instead of going with the literal meaning of what the bible says when it condemns homosexuality in no uncertain words?

After all, what this bishop basically says is: "People don't listen to us anymore; it's time to change our message so it's closer to what the people think is right till they agree with us again."
Without a doubt that's a valid marketing strategy but it certainly doesn't look like something you'd expect someone to say who believes with all their heart and with absolute certainty their rulebook has been given to them by a god.
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General Religious Discussion / Re: me aganist the board
« Last post by natlegend on Yesterday at 08:23:15 PM »
(Back it off a bit eh!, you're making this really hard. Any theist dribbling sh!t like you are now would get the ban hammer. Keep it real, bro, so we can keep it going.)

Tell me, what is your god like? Is there anything about your god that you don't like?
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General Religious Discussion / Re: Bible God/Jesus is a Pervert
« Last post by natlegend on Yesterday at 08:18:56 PM »
If we are God's chidren, wouldn't His invisible sex with Mary  produce an incest baby?

I think Yaweh works on an 'incest is best' policy. Likes to keep it in the family. Literally.

Ew.
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50 pages and all we have so far is "god is like the wind", essentially. I wish OC would stop trying to 'debate' people in an open forum, it's extremely distracting (and no doubt, meant to be that way).
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General Religious Discussion / Re: Bible God/Jesus is a Pervert
« Last post by The Gawd on Yesterday at 07:50:06 PM »
Slightly off topic.

Are all humans considered God's Creations? Or are we considered God's Children? (schematics)

If we are God's chidren, wouldn't His invisible sex with Mary  produce an incest baby?
yahweh is incestuous. no way around that.
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General Religious Discussion / Re: Bible God/Jesus is a Pervert
« Last post by stuffin on Yesterday at 07:47:44 PM »
Slightly off topic.

Are all humans considered God's Creations? Or are we considered God's Children? (schematics)

If we are God's chidren, wouldn't His invisible sex with Mary  produce an incest baby?
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so OC wants to force his opponent to prove a negative - devious.
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here is a gem inquiry...:
Evolution, just too difficult for Christians to understand?
a primer question that can be answered too: what is evolution?

What makes you think evolution is too difficult for Christians to understand? This sounds like a indirect accusation of some sort. Does this apply to ALL Christians?

Adam and Eve told me that evolution is too difficult for christians. They told me they picked the fruit from the tree to learn about how it evolved, but christians, not being interested in nature, don't understand why they picked the fruit. Instead christians make up some silly story about how it is wrong to pick fruit and learn about evolution.
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OC

When one wants a debate, they usually PM (private message) the other party and work out the details that way. That keeps the discussion out of ongoing threads, where they are otherwise off-topic.

If you don't know how to do that, there is a little balloon icon a few lines below jaime's name in any of his posts. Clicking on that lets you send him a private message.

And know that while only you and jaime or whoever you end up debating can contribute to the debate (along with a mod that hangs around and whops folks up aside the head when they get out of hand), the rest of us can comment in a concurrent thread about your debate. So while you'll be working within the agreed upon framework with your debate partner, the rest of us can continue our normal banter. I don't know if you've read any of this thread, but if you had, you'd have noticed that we're not always kind. And unless you start impressing us with your grasp of something, we will probably continue to be less than wonderful commenters.

By your standards, at least.
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Thanks again for your posts.
Once again, this is how a debate works.
The affirmative usually goes first. In other words, I would give my points to how I can "prove" God exists.
THEN, the negative side would give their points to why they can "prove" that God DOES NOT exist.
THEN, we are both scored on the positive points we brought top the argument.
If one side presented no positive points, then they get NO points.
NEXT. The negative (in this case the atheist) disputes all the points the affirmative made.
THEN, the affirmative disputes the case the negative made.
THEN.... points are tallied for both side.

Every refuted point means -1 point from your score. And what about disputing the disputed points.

Let's have some real stakes.

The one who loses has to admit unambiguously in type that the other side has the best argument and has to explain why the other argument was better.
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