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General Religious Discussion / Re: Christians, please explain
« Last post by jdawg70 on Today at 02:28:43 PM »
Now, Christians, can you please explain why your god would do the absolute worst job possible at revealing himself as he did?

This does bring to mind the related question of The Salvation Gap - what of the people after the Fall and before the resurrection of Jesus?  Having any gap in time between the Fall and the offer for salvation seems to be a poor decision on par with this geographically limited revelation issue.  But GotQuestions response to the salvation gap issue might lend some insight into the geographical question:

Quote from: The Imaginations of Others Who Do Not Wish to Think Too Hard About Stuff
God's requirement of what must be believed is based on the amount of revelation He has given mankind up to that time. This is called progressive revelation.
http://www.gotquestions.org/before-Jesus.html

Basically, as far as I can tell, slow revelation is apparently part of The PlanTM.  According to the silly, silly people over at GotQuestions, what's necessary for salvation is faith, and the thing to have faith in is god.  The way you have faith in god is to believe god.  What god says - that is, the content of belief - changes over time.

I suppose I shouldn't knock the silly, silly people over at GotQuestions too much on this one though.  I stand to benefit from such a view.  After all, I utterly and completely believe absolutely every single bit of communication god has given to me.  I have not once disbelieved a single thing that god has told me.  My faith is strong.  The fact that 'progressive revelation' looks indistinguishable from "different people making different shit up at different times in different places" should be no cause for concern.
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Science / Re: Zika Virus
« Last post by wright on Today at 01:45:49 PM »
^^^Agreed. We know there's an outbreak, but how serious in the long and short-term remains to be seen. Here are a couple of links to a blog by Tara Smith on the subject. She lays out what's known about Zika, the possible connection to microcephaly and deconstructs the various conspiracy theories that are already circulating...

http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2016/02/01/zika/

http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2016/02/03/the-zika-conspiracies-have-begun/
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I was giving a scenario whereby god made the road a bit wider so more people could get to heaven.

I'm still left wondering what, precisely, would be unfair about just having the road completely open and having everyone get to heaven.
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Science / Re: Zika Virus
« Last post by One Above All on Today at 12:37:25 PM »
Maybe I consider the threads in the science section in a different way than you do, One. Science in the news, plugging away at what science does, while the details may seem utterly insignificant to some - beats praying.

I was referring to the fear-mongering surrounding this virus. Even assuming the microencephaly was caused by the virus, in non-pregnant people, the Zika virus is just a bad case of the flu, plus a rash, if you exhibit symptoms in the first place.
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Reviews / Re: Rate the Last Film You Saw
« Last post by screwtape on Today at 12:35:05 PM »
Total aside, but the edited-for-TV version of Scarface from the early 90s is one of the finest pieces of cinematic art to grace this universe.

I'd not seen Scarface until a couple of months ago.  I thought I should, since it is apparently a classic.  I did not think it held up well.
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Chatter / Re: How does crowd sourcing work?
« Last post by One Above All on Today at 12:33:28 PM »
yeah. let's not get too carried away with that. The Italians voted in Berlusconi. 

I said your voting system. As in, the way in which elections are carried out. From what I understand, in your system, if the majority of a state votes for someone, every electoral vote from that state goes to that someone, rather than attributing those votes proportionally.

well, he's getting up there in age too. But I think he still qualifies as classically handsome in the western sense. Look at a younger photo of him too:
http://thyblackman.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/rick_perry.jpg

...I'm not seeing it, at all.
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Chatter / Re: How does crowd sourcing work?
« Last post by screwtape on Today at 12:32:57 PM »
It has always bothered me: How can Aborigines be "American" when they were there well before the place was named by Europeans?

I use it because I don't have any other word to call this continent.  As far as I know, they did not see themselves as a "country" and were unaware of continents.  So, as far as I know, there is nothing else I could call them that would not be specific to a fault.  I could talk about the Iroquois or the Seminoles, but they were specific local, regional groups.  Like trying to talk about all Americans as Virginians. All I am trying to refer to are the people who were on this continent - North America - before the Europeans arrived.

Do you have similar trepidation when referring to Asians?  After all, "Asia" is a term cooked up by the ancient Greeks when talking about Turkey, and not a name the Chinese used.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_continent_name_etymologies#Asia


Don't they describe themselves (again historically inaccurately) as "First Nation"

I've heard the term, but I don't think they are monolithic in their preferences or naming conventions.

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General Religious Discussion / Re: Christians, please explain
« Last post by Boots on Today at 12:31:35 PM »
bm (to check the movie later)
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Science / Re: Zika Virus
« Last post by shnozzola on Today at 12:29:19 PM »
   Maybe I consider the threads in the science section in a different way than you do, One.  Science in the news, plugging away at what science does, while the details may seem utterly insignificant to some - beats praying.   I will keep tooting science's horn. 
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Chatter / Re: How does crowd sourcing work?
« Last post by screwtape on Today at 12:24:35 PM »
I thought that by starting the next paragraph with "Seriously, though", it'd be enough to indicate I was joking. It appears I was wrong.

yep.  subtleties do not translate well on the forum. 

Overseas, we assume most of you are fat, but there's a good reason for that: most of you are fat.

yep.  We are.

We also assume most of you are idiots, but that's a side-effect of the news and your own voting system.

yeah.  let's not get too carried away with that.  The Italians voted in Berlusconi. 

That could be it. I don't usually find older people attractive.

Not many people do.

Are you sure she's not Canadian? ;D

Ha!  She could be.  But she's definitely republican, either way.

If you have low standards. On some of the pictures I found, it almost looks like he has gray skin.

well, he's getting up there in age too.  But I think he still qualifies as classically handsome in the western sense.  Look at a younger photo of him too:
http://thyblackman.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/rick_perry.jpg

I was just referring to the politicians.

ah.  I took it to be repbulicans in general.

Yeah, that's the kind of face I'd see in my nightmares, if I had them.

to each his own, I guess.

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