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Introductions / Re: Hi guys
« Last post by jdawg70 on Yesterday at 05:28:10 PM »
Yes, definitely. But can you say with certainty that an entity could not live up to that parameter?
Nope, but then again I'm never ever really thrilled with the notion of 'certainty' in the sense of 'absolute certainty'.

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What humanity knows to this day is not enough to decisively claim that our universe does not have a creator.
Agreed.  If, however, humanity were somehow able to establish that the universe (and/or the sum total of reality) does not have a creator, does that necessarily mean that humanity has established that there is no god?

Is a 'creator-of-realities-god' type of parameter a necessary parameter in establishing godhood?  If the sum total of reality 'just was' and a powerful entity were gestated in some manner from that, and that particular entity did stuff like 'create galaxies and planets and Lady Gaga' would that entity qualify as a god or no?

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Now, I'm young and I hope that within my lifetime our knowledge will increase to the point where we can safely determine whether our reality is manipulated or came into existence by accident. I would be comfortable with either of those outcomes.
'Accident' has a lot of semantic baggage behind it, what with implications such as 'in opposition to an intended outcome' or somesuch.  I would just recommend that you not think in terms of a dichotomous 'reality was created' OR 'reality was an accident'.  Concepts like 'accident', 'without cause', 'random', 'indeterminate' all have some manner of semantic relation to each other in some form or another and it can be quite easy to interchange the use of those words/phrases without thinking about what other semantic baggage you've snuck in without your explicit intent.
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After that last pm you sent me Junebug I give up. I tried to be decent, but it's obvious to me by now I just can't win here.
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Chatter / Re: What is Trump doing.......
« Last post by eh! on Yesterday at 03:09:33 PM »
Milo has an interesting position, defender of the extreme right and a very gay untraditional guy. How does he do it?
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Chatter / Re: "What are you listening to now"... take three...
« Last post by Emma286 on Yesterday at 02:56:55 PM »


If that video is inaccessible for whatever reason this is an alternate link:


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Introductions / Re: Hi guys
« Last post by Emma286 on Yesterday at 02:53:49 PM »
There were some Europeans here but I think a wall is going up soon.  Welcome.

Yup. Pity we can't stick Trump behind some wall somewhere and permanently separate him from everyone else imho. ;)
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Introductions / Re: Hi guys
« Last post by Emma286 on Yesterday at 02:52:30 PM »
I lack whatever mechanism is responsible for allowing belief in gods. I also acknowledge that a non-participating god - deism, essentially - is possible. I don't have a reason to believe it, but I can't deny the possibility of the existence of such an entity.

My daughter is a deist of a sort. She doesn't like the idea of no higher intelligence that gave a shit about this planet at some point, so she has decided to believe that such an entity might/does exist. She's well aware that it's a choice, and one that she makes for comfort alone. It's harmless, in that she has no expectation of intervention or interaction from such  being, nor does she think that she needs to act in any particular way to please it. Her "god" is her secret teddy bar.

I'm glad to hear that on your daughter Jag. Sounds like she's pretty self aware which is a good thing!
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Introductions / Re: Hi guys
« Last post by Emma286 on Yesterday at 02:44:34 PM »
Welcome to the forums doke. Hoping you enjoy your stay and decide to stick around.  ;)
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Chatter / Re: "What are you listening to now"... take three...
« Last post by jdawg70 on Yesterday at 02:43:11 PM »
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Keep pumping the collection plates with your money.
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Science / Re: Trappist-1
« Last post by jdawg70 on Yesterday at 01:56:33 PM »
I think it won't be long until we find other life out there...maybe not intelligent, but still. Or, perhaps more intelligent! Yikes.

Who knows if they could be looking at our solar system and wondering if there is intelligent life here?
There's not.

Dude what are you talking about, crows are smart as hell.
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