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General Religious Discussion / Re: Male vs Female atheists

« Last post by ParkingPlaces on Today at 08:55:29 PM »

I suspect it is because women have a life. I don't. Hence I outnumber them here about 10-1. All by myself.

I think otherwise the ratio is about 50:50. So it's all my fault.

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General Religious Discussion / Re: Why do atheists refer to the Laws of Moses, or the Torah Law to try to prove Ch

« Last post by Aaron123 on Today at 08:55:28 PM »

My point once again is that Christians do not live nor follow those laws that many atheists keep referring to. Many Jews do not follow those laws today either, and my references show that the Jewish faith claims that many of them are outdated and do not apply as well. This is the point I am trying to make.

There's a couple of things I want to ask, just so we're all clear on this.

1)   Do you believe that god himself dictated all those old testament laws? (mind you, the bible does say that he did)

2)   Either way, doesn't that mean the bible spends a significant chunk of itself dealing with subjective morality, rather than "objective morality", as many believers like to claim?


At any rate, I can't imagine it sits well with you that the bible wastes so much time on things that are now considered nonsense, even by believers.

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General Religious Discussion / Re: Don't expect an atheist president anytime soon

« Last post by Willie on Today at 08:52:35 PM »

From reading your post, it appears to me that you are assuming that God literally sat down with a pen and paper and wrote every word of the Bible. What about Paul's letters and the Gospels. Atheists claim that these were written by men hundreds of years later. Are you contradicting yourself?

That it was not written by a supreme being is the point she was making. You might have caught on to that had you more interested in understanding what was being said than in finding whatever fault you can, even if it means misrepresenting what someone says.

As for why atheists point out biblical contradictions, it is to counter the many Christians who are biblical literalists. You might not be a biblical literalist, but once again, the world does not revolve around you.

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General Religious Discussion / Re: Don't expect an atheist president anytime soon

« Last post by Willie on Today at 08:44:10 PM »

A Gallup poll says atheists are the least likely group Americans would vote to be president. Muslims stand a better chance!

http://www.gallup.com/poll/155285/Atheists-Muslims-Bias-Presidential-Candidates.aspx

Yes, religious bigotry runs rampant. We're all well aware of this, and that poll has been discussed here before. Why do you bring it up? Is it something you're proud of?

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General Religious Discussion / Re: Male vs Female atheists

« Last post by Chronos on Today at 08:43:02 PM »

Not sure if this question has been asked before and I'm new in town so it might have been answered already,  but are there more male atheists on this forum than female atheists?  If so why do you think that is.

More males use the internet. This is rapidly changing.

More males spend more hours on the internet. This is not rapidly changing.

Has there ever been a national survey breaking down atheists according to gender in the US?  I can't find one. Perhaps it's such a touchy topic no one has bothered to conduct one.

I cannot point to a survey, but it seems that one was done a few years ago. More women attend church than men and the men that go to church generally do so at the insistence of women. It is my belief that women have a higher emotional quotient likely due to the presence of a uterus that reproduces other humans, giving women a unique connection to the lifecycle. I think their search for why they have to do all the childbearing leads them to talk to a higher power. There must be a god.

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General Religious Discussion / Re: Don't expect an atheist president anytime soon

« Last post by Chronos on Today at 08:35:24 PM »

A Gallup poll says atheists are the least likely group Americans would vote to be president. Muslims stand a better chance!

http://www.gallup.com/poll/155285/Atheists-Muslims-Bias-Presidential-Candidates.aspx

They also felt the same way about a black in the White House.


Still do.

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MailBag / Re: Why doesn't God heal amputees? [#2743]

« Last post by Chronos on Today at 08:30:15 PM »

hope that helps from a newbie (6+ months on of godfree living!!) 

Just wait until you become a born-again atheist -- that's when your eyes will truly be open.

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General Religious Discussion / Re: Don't expect an atheist president anytime soon

« Last post by ParkingPlaces on Today at 08:20:02 PM »

You wouldn't want an atheist president. We don't have the lack of moral turpitude necessary to crawl in bed with bankers and big business and military contractors and billionaires that the believers in both parties apparently enjoy doing.

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General Religious Discussion / Re: Why do atheists refer to the Laws of Moses, or the Torah Law to try to prove Ch

« Last post by ParkingPlaces on Today at 08:16:35 PM »

Holybuckets

Do you mean the same Book of Leviticus that christians today use to prove that God thinks homosexuality is a horrible, awful, icky thing? If so, why do you guys get to use it and then complain about us using it at the same time?

I'm of course referring to this old standard that gets repeated time and time again by religious conservatives:

"If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination." (Leviticus 20:13).

Just wondering.

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General Religious Discussion / Re: Why do atheists refer to the Laws of Moses, or the Torah Law to try to prove Ch

« Last post by Willie on Today at 08:14:08 PM »

But yet atheists continue to “beat the dead horse” claiming that the Bible is NOT true and there is NO God and cite these outdated laws as a source of reference. Why?

The objection that atheists most frequently raise in regard to the OT has little to do with trying to prove that there's no god. More often it is countering Christian claims of moral superiority and moral absolutism, despite the obvious hypocrisy of ignoring the inconvenient bits of their own Holy book's teaching, and claiming that some of those moral absolutes don't apply anymore.