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Chatter / Re: "What are you listening to now"... take three...
« Last post by Mr. Blackwell on Today at 11:24:52 PM »
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... with plentiful doses of bullshit, no doubt.

I'd really like to see if any Christian can offer an explanation as to why the Devil pretty much gets to do what he likes doing,

Ha! Good luck with that. They would likely just excuse it as a part of God's greater plan. Which undoubtedly pits one child against the other to see who loves "Dad" most.

Shakespeare[1] anyone?
 1. shakes spear
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Well the devil has some unhappiness when the True Believers act up with such antics like picketing funerals, refusing to bake gay wedding cakes and denying gay marriage licences.

And he is so sad whenever a Christian does good deeds or acts of charity.
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... with plentiful doses of bullshit, no doubt.

I'd really like to see if any Christian can offer an explanation as to why the Devil pretty much gets to do what he likes doing, to all sorts of people, for hundreds of years, despite (according to the Bible) literally challenging and fighting with God in a physical sense, when us mere mortals basically get one shot, and if we make the wrong call....
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Yes-hell is a little bit more than just the absence of God, at least according to the Bible.

yes-well the Bible is little more the hearsay.
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...and there is moaning and gnashing of teeth.
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Yes-hell is a little bit more than just the absence of God, at least according to the Bible.


In Revelation 20:10, St. John describes Hell ("the lake of fire," more specifically) in relation to the Devil and the False Prophet of the end times in terms difficult to misunderstand:

And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
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Satan, and his "followers" fought for their independence.

Hell is simply the absence of God.[1]

Which is what they wanted.

So...who won?
 1. Heaven and Hell are both propaganda
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So, according to the Bible, Satan used to be up there with God but rebelled against him, lost that skirmish, and was banished to hell along with about one third of the angels or what/who ever the devil got to agree to fight with the Devil against God.
Source:http://www.godandscience.org/doctrine/who_is_satan.html

So here's my question -- why does God allow Satan to have all of these interactions with people on earth on a daily basis (tempting them to sin, keeping them away from church, and a whole host of bad things)?

The devil is apparently happy when you rebel against God because he did that, so why does God allow the devil to basically enjoy himself for all eternity -- messing with people on earth --when the Devil actually went mano-a-mano with God?  I mean, the devil could not question the existence of God because he was right up in heaven with God and went to battle against him -- yet he can continually please himself by screwing around with mere mortals here on earth for eternity --or at least 1000s of years.

Meanwhile, us poor folks here on earth, according to most Christians I know, are going to be cast into a lake of fire or eternal hell or just a really bad place if we "don't accept Jesus Christ as our personal savior."

I mean -- damn (pun intended) -- all these people who never had a face-to-face chat with God are eternally damned and, at a minimum, unhappy, even though they are forced to accept the existence of God on "faith" rather than their own eyes, while God allows the Devil to basically have a hell of a good time (pun intended), even though the Devil is one entity the Bible clearly tells us actually conversed with God.

Isn't that -- really twisted?  :-\
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General Religious Discussion / Re: Atheists and thinking about God
« Last post by Add Homonym on Today at 08:27:42 PM »
why? on who's authority does anyone criticize anyone's beliefs? That's my point.
critique actions, not beliefs.

I've seen this argument used by New Agers, who SAY they believe that everyone's belief is legitimate and relative. But what they are really saying, is that they can proselytize and you should shut up. Whenever I would need to witness an action of theirs that needed criticizing, I would not be around to witness it. Or, the action would be part of a set of diffuse diluted wrong actions that would not be readily criticizable.

For example, there are people (Chemtrailers) who believe that aeroplanes are distributing poison all over us, in a secret plot. It's much more logical for me to attack their belief, when they put it out there (on Facebook say), than try to intercept all the strange things they do, to rid the world of chemtrails.

This group has 75,000 members. These guys don't even believe that chemistry is a real subject. If you say anything logical on their feed, you will just get jeered at.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/globalskywatch/


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