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Introductions / Re: Hi guys
« Last post by Emma286 on Today at 02:44:34 PM »
Welcome to the forums doke. Hoping you enjoy your stay and decide to stick around.  ;)
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Chatter / Re: "What are you listening to now"... take three...
« Last post by jdawg70 on Today at 02:43:11 PM »
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Keep pumping the collection plates with your money.
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Science / Re: Trappist-1
« Last post by jdawg70 on Today at 01:56:33 PM »
I think it won't be long until we find other life out there...maybe not intelligent, but still. Or, perhaps more intelligent! Yikes.

Who knows if they could be looking at our solar system and wondering if there is intelligent life here?
There's not.

Dude what are you talking about, crows are smart as hell.
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Introductions / Re: Hi guys
« Last post by Nick on Today at 01:56:12 PM »
There were some Europeans here but I think a wall is going up soon.  Welcome.
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Science / Re: Trappist-1
« Last post by Nick on Today at 01:52:59 PM »
I think it won't be long until we find other life out there...maybe not intelligent, but still. Or, perhaps more intelligent! Yikes.

Who knows if they could be looking at our solar system and wondering if there is intelligent life here?
There's not.
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I agree anti-abortionists are contradicting themselves but I'm not.
Can you at least acknowledge that your posts on this subject might not be as clear to other people as you think they are or want them to be?  Remember, you have the advantage of knowing your own thoughts on everything you write, but other people do not; what can seem crystal-clear to you may be (and often are) significantly less so to others.

Quote from: junebug72
I am comfortable enough that I showed mental illness and abortion are related.
Given that pretty much everyone else participating in this thread disagrees with you on this supposed relationship between mental illness and abortion, and that you didn't address relevant and salient points about how it could very easily be pregnancy which has the actual relationship, I think you should not assume that you showed anything, let alone feel comfortable with your performance.

It's up to you if you want to stop participating in this thread because of how intense it can be and how you're not prepared to spend the time to do the necessary research, but don't expect others to agree with your self-congratulatory statements on how well you think you did right afterward.

Also, considering your concern over wealth inequality, have you considered how the cost of a pregnancy (never mind giving birth or raising a child) can contribute to that?  I realize that abortion is about more than just money, but nonetheless, monetary concerns are a major part of the issue.  And until they stop being such a major part of the issue, any attempt to ban abortion or even seriously restrict it will be doomed to failure, for much the same reason that Prohibition failed as badly as it did.  It's even worse than that in some respects.

The point is that without fixing the underlying causes, there's no point in trying to forbid something like abortion, any more than there was a point in trying to forbid the production/consumption of alcohol.
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Chatter / Re: What is Trump doing.......
« Last post by stuffin on Today at 12:48:39 PM »
And aint it great that Milo fell on his sword. No more putting up with that little shit.

Have a feeling he'll eventually resurface as a re-made man. His caustic doctrine is too difficult for the far right to let slough away.
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Albeto you used the word cause I use the word related.  There's a difference.

You still don't get it. You argued that the relationship is a causal one. In fact, in your post #146, you argue that you are, "proving that the majority of women having abortions have some form of mental illness." It would be more logical to argue that poverty increases the risk of abortion, so it's imperative to provide affordable birth control options and reliable sex education to people more likely to rely on a abortion for birth control. But no, your solution is to counsel them because there are too many abortions (sad!). Presumably, following your arguments, the counsel would culminate in a live birth. So much for pro-choice. That's more pro-emotional manipulation during an emotionally stressful and vulnerable time. Churchy people swoop in during these emotionally vulnerable times precisely because it's effective. How insidious.

Jaime I would rather, I mentioned before, not see any more poor people.  That's why I have mentioned fixing wealth inequality as a good form of prevention.

The record shows that providing safe and legal and affordable abortions effectively helps lessen the economic gap. The only reason to continue to reduce access to abortion (through legislation or counseling) is a moral one (abortion is sad!). That moral argument isn't logical. It's not based on information but opinion and presumptions of what could be true.

I am comfortable enough that I showed mental illness and abortion are related.

Despite recognizing the things you showed aren't what you thought they were. But so what if they're related? Mental illness and nail polish are related as well. As is mental illness and ice cream consumption, watching Nicolas Cage movies, or eating fish on Fridays.
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Chatter / Re: "What are you listening to now"... take three...
« Last post by jdawg70 on Today at 11:52:49 AM »
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