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Evolution & Creationism / Re: Abiogenesis and probability?
« Last post by Foxy Freedom on Today at 05:10:35 AM »
Yes, and that is where I was going. The changes had to be positive, or the animal would not be able to survive and reproduce.

But when it's somewhere between a wing and a leg, what is it?

Deep fried chicken.

You are making a classic mistake of thinking that evolution is going somewhere. It isn't, it is just going, and not arriving. Put that in a christmas cracker.

You are assuming that wings and feathers have to be used for flight, but they don't, they can be used for keeping warm, display, running and jumping, gliding, and only later used for flying.
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General Religious Discussion / Re: Bible God/Jesus is a Pervert
« Last post by Fiji on Today at 04:24:24 AM »


Is this evolution gone mad or just a picture someone made up?

But if God wanted to make a creature like this, He very well could.

You've either just proven that god doesn't exist, or that he has less imagination than the average Joe with Photoshop.
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General Religious Discussion / Re: Bible God/Jesus is a Pervert
« Last post by wheels5894 on Today at 04:03:53 AM »
Wouldn't every scientist on the planet want to study those bones, skeptic? Yes, they would. So, why haven't they? I have been reading Science News magazine for years and they never mentioned this discovery. I know many scientists and science writers. You would think they would have mentioned one of the most fantastic discoveries in all of archeology. Where are the scientific papers on these bones? Where are the newspaper articles and tv specials on them? Where is the related Nobel Prize? I have a Jewish colleague who would murder me and his entire family to get his hands on a sample of bible-era giant DNA.


I would just like you to consider the possibility that these discoveries get covered up because the scientists don't want to turn their lives over to God, so they ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist.

Before you laugh, can't you even consider the possibility that this could be true?

OK, let's look at this idea of yours that there could be a cover up. Do you know how things work, Skep? Researchers at universities and research institutions are all keen to get new research out and published - sometimes it affects their funding. Once a paper is published, people working in the same field have a look at it and, if it has problems, they will publish them. Those who read published papers try to prove the research wrong and ideas only survive if they can't be proved wrong.

So, out there, you find not so much scientists but groups at different places in competition for the funds and the research. If anyone finds genuine giant bones, they will be publishing the stuff in a  flash because it would be something new for science. Remember Homo floresiensis?   OK, that wasn't something your bible predicted so you may not have noticed but it is what came out of research just as giants would, if we found any.

So, after careful thought....  :D,  laughing is the only option.

Sorry!
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General Religious Discussion / Re: Bible God/Jesus is a Pervert
« Last post by natlegend on Today at 03:52:57 AM »
Wouldn't every scientist on the planet want to study those bones, skeptic? Yes, they would. So, why haven't they? I have been reading Science News magazine for years and they never mentioned this discovery. I know many scientists and science writers. You would think they would have mentioned one of the most fantastic discoveries in all of archeology. Where are the scientific papers on these bones? Where are the newspaper articles and tv specials on them? Where is the related Nobel Prize? I have a Jewish colleague who would murder me and his entire family to get his hands on a sample of bible-era giant DNA.


I would just like you to consider the possibility that these discoveries get covered up because the scientists don't want to turn their lives over to God, so they ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist.

Before you laugh, can't you even consider the possibility that this could be true?

Then it wasn't very well 'covered up', was it? I mean, we have real life photos that were leaked.
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Jst,

Could we get back to the side issue that came up, John 1 'and the word was a god'. I pointed out to you that given you also believe in YWHW (Jehovah) that means rather than accepting Jesus a part of the godhead (the Trinity) and keeping monotheism going, just about, you believe in Jehovah (as a god) and the Word (as a god). You believe in 2 gods.

How do you square that one?
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General Religious Discussion / Re: Bible God/Jesus is a Pervert
« Last post by One Above All on Today at 02:38:23 AM »
This is due to our genes becoming impure.

skeptic54768, I want you to read this statement. Outside your circle of friends, who do you know who uses this terminology ("pure/impure genes")? I know of only one group of people: eugenicists. Now, I'm sure you did not mean it in that regard, but look at it from my perspective. This is the only group of people whose meaning of the term "pure genes" I know of. However, nobody - myself included - has assumed this to be your intended meaning because we know you're not a complete moron. That said, unless you explain what you mean by the term, simply repeating it until we "get it" is the equivalent of speaking French to a Swede and expecting the Swede to understand it if you just repeat it enough times. It doesn't work like that.

No clarification then? That's alright. Not like I expect any honesty from you anyhow.
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General Religious Discussion / Re: Jesus never healed anyone
« Last post by wheels5894 on Today at 02:37:20 AM »
We're getting close to the old 'Mysterious Ways' bit. God could do anything.... he just don't choose to do it though.It's a great way of thinking as it allows one to believe in this all-powerful god whilst realising that the same god never does anything at all.

Cognitive Dissonance I suppose one would call it. The only way round is to imagine that the god is doing something in
heaven or something spiritual[1] to keep the illusion going that there is even a god. Look at all the Christians who are waiting for the Rapture. There's even a website where one can leave an email message for one's loved one that goes out after the Rapture has happened. Even Russell had to modify his ideas or they were modified for him later to say that Christ did come to earth in 1914... but only spiritually. The great thing is, no one can show it is untrue even though it is clearly made-up.

Well, I wonder who will be next to show us all how they would love to prove their god existed but due to his 'mysterious ways' proofs don't work over the Internet.
 1. whatever that means
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Religion & Society / Re: Christianity in US could decrease rapidly
« Last post by One Above All on Today at 02:36:00 AM »
Yep. And the theists are deep into denial about that and similar trends: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/05/18/yes-christianity-is-dying-and-conservative-leaders-are-avoiding-the-most-obvious-solution/

Well, they are experts in engaging in denialism when encountering something they don't like.
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Religion & Society / Re: Christianity in US could decrease rapidly
« Last post by Fiji on Today at 02:29:24 AM »
There is no such thing. There is only the Democrat party and the Republican party. Which one is trying to keep the internet open and unrestricted and which one is trying to regulate it?

If those are the only options, then the answer is 'neither'.

The Republicans want to keep the Internet unrestricted and as a result tremendously closed.
The Democrats want to restrict what providers can do and thus keep the Internet open.
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Science / Experiment confirms quantum theory weirdness
« Last post by One Above All on Today at 02:28:04 AM »
http://www.anu.edu.au/news/all-news/experiment-confirms-quantum-theory-weirdness

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The single atom was (...) dropped through a pair of counter-propagating laser beams, which formed a grating pattern that acted as crossroads in the same way a solid grating would scatter light.

A second light grating to recombine the paths was randomly added, which led to constructive or destructive interference as if the atom had travelled both paths. When the second light grating was not added, no interference was observed as if the atom chose only one path.

However, the random number determining whether the grating was added was only generated after the atom had passed through the crossroads.

If one chooses to believe that the atom really did take a particular path or paths then one has to accept that a future measurement is affecting the atom's past, said Truscott.

"The atoms did not travel from A to B. It was only when they were measured at the end of the journey that their wave-like or particle-like behavior was brought into existence," he said.

Weirdest thing in quantum mechanics this week. Unfortunately for QM, that's actually normal.
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