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Chatter / Re: myth of a humane General Robert E. Lee
« Last post by Mr. Blackwell on Today at 09:11:37 PM »
Actually, there's a more likely explanation for why you're getting challenged, Blackwell.  You said it yourself; you're basing your position on recollected life experience, meaning what you have personally gone through in your life.  Yet despite not being entirely sure what all informed your understanding as it stands today, you're still very certain that said understanding is correct, even though it's based on the idea that nothing is certain.  I think that's the reason you're getting challenged.

I admit that my memory isn't perfect. Does anyone among us claim to be perfect in their memory? In their understanding?

Do any of you reject your own personal experience?

Do any of you question your own opinion?
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Chatter / Re: myth of a humane General Robert E. Lee
« Last post by jaimehlers on Today at 08:54:26 PM »
Actually, there's a more likely explanation for why you're getting challenged, Blackwell.  You said it yourself; you're basing your position on recollected life experience, meaning what you have personally gone through in your life.  Yet despite not being entirely sure what all informed your understanding as it stands today, you're still very certain that said understanding is correct, even though it's based on the idea that nothing is certain.  I think that's the reason you're getting challenged.
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Chatter / Re: myth of a humane General Robert E. Lee
« Last post by Mr. Blackwell on Today at 07:49:28 PM »
Jaimehlers

I am just recollecting from my personal life experience so I cannot tell you explicitly who or what informed me. I am 42 years old and my mind is like a sieve. But the things that actually happened in the past cannot be reliably counted upon. Every narrative is open to question. I am a middle of the road kind of person. Problem is, people who walk down the middle get squashed by both sides.

This is my testimony as delivered by Zack De La Rocha.



"Who controls the past now, controls the future. Who controls the present now, controls the past."


Our whole system is fucked my friend. Yet I am questioned here because I dare question both sides.
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Chatter / Re: myth of a humane General Robert E. Lee
« Last post by jaimehlers on Today at 07:26:24 PM »
Interesting turn of phrase.  Who or what led you to believe that, Blackwell?  You might also ask yourself why they might have been trying to lead you to believe it.

By the way, it's worth noting that the tactics of the Republican Party, post 1960-ish, are remarkablysimilar to the tactics of the Democratic Party, pre 1960-ish.  Almost as if it's the same people were in charge both times, trying to prevent black people (and recently, other minorities) from exercising their constitutional right to vote without actually making it illegal.

You might want to keep in mind that it's the people in a party who decide what the party supports.  The parties themselves don't have any inherent platforms to support.

I would say the same to you. Except, I know that historical facts are a nebulous thing. Historical facts are confusing because they change all the time.
This is factually incorrect.  What happened in the past does not change.  Perhaps what you meant to say is that the history books say different things based on who wrote them and what information they had available?  But the actual facts - the things that actually happened in the past - do not change.
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Chatter / Re: myth of a humane General Robert E. Lee
« Last post by Mr. Blackwell on Today at 07:18:06 PM »
well, don't let the facts confuse you, Mr. B.

I would say the same to you. Except, I know that historical facts are a nebulous thing. Historical facts are confusing because they change all the time.
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Chatter / Re: myth of a humane General Robert E. Lee
« Last post by velkyn on Today at 07:14:19 PM »
That doesn't change the fact that the deep south was in lock step with the Democratic Party during and after the Civil War. Including up until AFTER the civil rights movement in the 60's.

Why DID the Democrats and Republicans switch sides? As far as I have been led to believe, it was because the Republicans wanted the white vote in order to ultimately crush the Democratic Party and have a unified one party government. They just didn't anticipate the Democratic Party promising to give the minority a chicken in every pot and a car in every garage. The way I see it, the Democratic Party just switched tactics. If they couldn't enslave the dark skinned people, they would use tax dollars to keep them in their place. In poverty and on the government doll in return for their vote to help keep them there, all under the pretense that the Republicans want them to simply die.

Don't worry, just vote for D and we will take good care of you as long as you don't get all uppity.

well, don't let the facts confuse you, Mr. B. 
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Chatter / Re: myth of a humane General Robert E. Lee
« Last post by Mr. Blackwell on Today at 06:43:43 PM »
So, yesteryears Democratic Party put these statues up and now they want to take them down. I get it. Let 'em do it. It's their statues anyway.

yesteryears democrats are todays Republicans: https://www.livescience.com/34241-democratic-republican-parties-switch-platforms.html

That doesn't change the fact that the deep south was in lock step with the Democratic Party during and after the Civil War. Including up until AFTER the civil rights movement in the 60's.

Why DID the Democrats and Republicans switch sides? As far as I have been led to believe, it was because the Republicans wanted the white vote in order to ultimately crush the Democratic Party and have a unified one party government. They just didn't anticipate the Democratic Party promising to give the minority a chicken in every pot and a car in every garage. The way I see it, the Democratic Party just switched tactics. If they couldn't enslave the dark skinned people, they would use tax dollars to keep them in their place. In poverty and on the government doll in return for their vote to help keep them there, all under the pretense that the Republicans want them to simply die.

Don't worry, just vote for D and we will take good care of you as long as you don't get all uppity.

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Science / Re: Eclipse 2017
« Last post by LoriPinkAngel on Today at 06:33:22 PM »
The eclipse is supposed to be 69% where I live.  I hope I remember to check it out.
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Chatter / Re: myth of a humane General Robert E. Lee
« Last post by velkyn on Today at 06:06:28 PM »
So, yesteryears Democratic Party put these statues up and now they want to take them down. I get it. Let 'em do it. It's their statues anyway.

yesteryears democrats are todays Republicans: https://www.livescience.com/34241-democratic-republican-parties-switch-platforms.html 
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Science / Re: Eclipse 2017
« Last post by shnozzola on Today at 05:54:23 PM »
Have fun tomorrow, all.  Make sure kids know not to look without correct protection!!

Here is a place to share eclipse photos, discussions, scientific fun.

App:
http://www.inaturalist.org/
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