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I don't know what you will lose if you keep on searching. JB I do not worship the trinitarian God of Chritendom (Chistendom=Church+State+false doctrine). I worship Jehovah. Some people will say they are the same God but they are not. Jehovah did not condemn all the living because of Adam's sin. Jehovah does not burn people in hell. Jehovah did not die on a cross. Jehovah has not removed his personal name some 7000+ times from the holy scriptures. His servants do no participate in war. His servants do not try to rule the world through politics and law making. This is just to name a few differences.
Does Jehovah ask or demand to be worshiped? To desire worship is VAIN. It makes it seem like Jehovah created us to worship him. That is cruel in my world.
Yes I am beginning to understand what you are saying. This saddens me more than you know. I know that you are wary of religion and you probably view everything I say with suspicion. That is okay, it is a good protection for you. But do you recall the story that Christ told where he said that when you open the door to this least of his brothers that you open the door door him? (Mathew 25:31-46) I cannot tell you that every time there is a knock and you open the door that it will be one of Christ's brothers. But if you never open the door then you may also miss Christ. I hope you understand. I am speaking of your mind and your heart. Open them to those that are Christ's brothers.
I thought you knew I respect the man Jesus. It's his followers I am leery of. I would help anyone that I could no matter their religion.
We will have peace. The conditions that exist on this earth right now will not always exist. We will come to love one another. We will come to love our home, this earth. Peace will prevail.
The thing is we need to do it ourselves or face the consequences of an angry Jehovah. What does Jehovah do with the "sinners''?
I understand you feel that way. There are some harsh punishments in the Bible and there is death. But these have been rare occasions and it's never been done just for the fun of it. Jehovah's purpose is not to punish, but there is a point where he says, "this far and no farther". I think he would be a cruel God to not do so.
What if someone endangered your children or tried to harm them? Would your love not become a consuming fire? Do you think God would not also become a consuming fire?
I understand you feel that way, but I am not entirely sure what you mean when you say "religion". Are you talking about organized religion or just any belief in God?
At this point any belief in gods. I am especially afraid of Islam and Christianity.
I am trying. I am not an enemy. We can be at peace. I want to be at peace.
And I don't know if I could walk a mile in your shoes. I don't know much but I know you've been through things that I have not. I remember a time when I was inspired by your faith though. I know you don't believe in faith but I think that's because we have different definitions. Suffice it to say that you inspired me. But now you are going down a different road and I am afraid for you.
If I knocked would you open the door?
Peace it is. I don't like aggressive debates. I think they are counter productive.
Why would you be afraid if Jehovah is not cruel? What's going to happen to me?
I have already opened the door.
I have that Albert Einstein quote as my signature for a reason. How can I understand mankind w/o observing mankind?
How can mankind know of a god w/o observing one?
I thought your definition of freewill was eloquent but I also agree with Foxy. Right and wrong is determined by society.
Yes we have a conscience but not all of us; psychopaths. Our conscience more likely evolved, glance through history, rather than programmed.