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I like to feel like I'm not alone out there realizing the Bible is a crap sandwich.
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It's not that they don't have free will. It's just that they will never have the capacity to obey from the heart. They hardened their heart through disobedience to the point it's numb.
If you will notice the scriptures say that Jehovah hardened Pharoah's heart (Exodus 7:3). They also say that Pharoah hardened his own heart (Exodus 8:32). So what hardened Pharoah's heart? Jehovah's words did. Why? Because Pharoah was a rebel.
Hearing Jehovah's words hardens the hearts of his opposers.
The more they hear it and reject it, they harder their heart becomes against it.
Jehovah did not force Judas to betray Christ. He saw the events in advance.
Christ did not have to be betrayed.
Jehovah saw that the fall would occur in advance and adjusted his actions accordingly. He did not cause the fall, nor was it necessary.
The major difference is that Jehovah sees in advance all possible outcomes, whereas storytellers can be caught by suprise by unpredictable players and can end up having to shoe horn the players.
didn't ancient islam have a university that encouraged free exchange of ideas between different religions....that was later destroyed by xians?
I am getting sick and tired of having all the world's problems blamed on Christians. Yes, without the Christians the world would be a perfect paradise. All joining hands in a circle singing kumbaya. 0% theft. 0% murder. 0 problems.
Enough of this.
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Maybe some of you don't realize how much stuff is made from petroleum products.
So, for all the environmentalists out there, how can we produce all of our technology i.e. the thing you are using to read this comment, without oil?
Maybe some more level headed people will agree that we can't get rid of Oil production but we can cut down on oil for energy.
For the rest of those who insist on getting rid of oil production entirely...
what is the alternative you propose? How do we make all the stuff we depend on without petroleum products?
I for one would accept higher fuel / energy costs if I knew air / water quality standards were more stringently and consistently enforced.
Arguing helps with my stress.
We think that we are exempt from the consequences of mindless Nature; we think that being human is different from being any other life-form: we are deluded.Exempt, no. But we can make a difference, unlike many other life-forms.Quote from: GraybeardThere is absolutely nothing we can do to prevent a catastrophe of global warming/cooling if it happens. Even thinking we could is pure stupidity – how will we control the sun, the atmosphere and ocean currents?Pessimistic much? I'll take those "purely stupid" people who think we can, even if they're wrong, over any number of people like you, who wail and moan about how we can't do anything and thus do their best to ensure that we don't even try.Quote from: GraybeardThe very best is that the more technically advanced nations threatened by one of the fatal causes might be able to invade and conquer a survivable part of the planet that is less developed. At least this will provide the seeds to get us back to civilisation more quickly but the losses will be immense.Alternately, we can push actual space exploration and maybe send colony ships out so that we have more than just one world.Quote from: GraybeardPopulation, the very thing that gave us our advancement over the last 200 years, is our downfall: we are victims of our own success. Like all species in which population collapse occurs, our job was to reproduce, and we did it too well.This is unfortunately true. We will have to get our population under control somehow.