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Title: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: ThatZenoGuy on October 04, 2013, 05:53:47 AM
I return again for another go at this infamous topic, a basic poll this time.

The options are as simple as they seem, yes, no and maybe.

Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: Mrjason on October 04, 2013, 06:18:32 AM
Here's an article on whether abstract concepts, in this case numbers, exist. Have a read, it might answer your poll question :)

http://www.math.hawaii.edu/~lee/exist.html (http://www.math.hawaii.edu/~lee/exist.html)
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: ThatZenoGuy on October 04, 2013, 06:22:23 AM
Here's an article on whether abstract concepts, in this case numbers, exist. Have a read, it might answer your poll question :)

http://www.math.hawaii.edu/~lee/exist.html (http://www.math.hawaii.edu/~lee/exist.html)

Wait...what?

The poll question is based more so on opinions of the people answering...
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: Dante on October 04, 2013, 06:42:23 AM
Wait...what?

The poll question is based more so on opinions of the people answering...

Reality doesn't depend on opinions, nor your feelings.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: ThatZenoGuy on October 04, 2013, 06:44:04 AM
Reality doesn't depend on opinions, nor your feelings.

Does that imply that if you post a "Is god real?" poll on a theist site, god becomes real?... &)
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: Dante on October 04, 2013, 06:51:14 AM
Reality doesn't depend on opinions, nor your feelings.

Does that imply that if you post a "Is god real?" poll on a theist site, god becomes real?... &)

No. It implies that one's opinions don't mean shit in the face of reality.

But, since you brought it up, your tulpae have no more evidence for their existence than do gods, so they can be dismissed as fiction just as easily. And all the wishful thinking in the world does nothing to change that.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: ThatZenoGuy on October 04, 2013, 06:56:17 AM
No. It implies that one's opinions don't mean shit in the face of reality.

Indeed opinions are nothing, but polls still use opinions and preference.
Otherwise political "polls" would be blatantly obvious, and not the stupidly complex things they are today.

But, since you brought it up, your tulpae have no more evidence for their existence than do gods, so they can be dismissed as fiction just as easily. And all the wishful thinking in the world does nothing to change that.

Then click that "No" option friend. ;D
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: Mrjason on October 04, 2013, 07:04:26 AM
No. It implies that one's opinions don't mean shit in the face of reality.

Indeed opinions are nothing, but polls still use opinions and preference.
Otherwise political "polls" would be blatantly obvious, and not the stupidly complex things they are today.


This isn't a poll on opinion though it's poll on the nature of reality, you might as well have set up a poll asking whether chickens are real for all of the difference it will make  ;)
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: ThatZenoGuy on October 04, 2013, 07:07:49 AM
This isn't a poll on opinion though it's poll on the nature of reality, you might as well have set up a poll asking whether chickens are real for all of the difference it will make  ;)

The poll question is simple, are tulpae real or not?

If i asked this on the tulpa forums, i would likely get a heap ton of "yes".

Likewise, here i would expect "no".

It does not matter on reality, sure, the answer may or may not be wrong, but the choice is up to the person clicking the answer.

It may also not be important what so ever, but i digress...
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: Anfauglir on October 04, 2013, 07:24:15 AM
This isn't a poll on opinion though it's poll on the nature of reality, you might as well have set up a poll asking whether chickens are real for all of the difference it will make  ;)

To be fair, the poll question is "Do you believe tulpae are real, or not?", so it is a poll relating to people's opinions. 
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: ThatZenoGuy on October 04, 2013, 07:25:52 AM
To be fair, the poll question is "Do you believe tulpae are real, or not?", so it is a poll relating to people's opinions.

Exactly ;D.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: Mrjason on October 04, 2013, 07:29:36 AM
This isn't a poll on opinion though it's poll on the nature of reality, you might as well have set up a poll asking whether chickens are real for all of the difference it will make  ;)

To be fair, the poll question is "Do you believe tulpae are real, or not?", so it is a poll relating to people's opinions.

So it does. My mistake, I only read the header and the OP. Still not gonna vote though.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: ThatZenoGuy on October 04, 2013, 07:35:33 AM
So it does. My mistake, I only read the header and the OP. Still not gonna vote though.

You know "no" is one of the options, right? O.o
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: Quesi on October 04, 2013, 07:45:34 AM
Angus-

Based on the multi-page discussion that you have going already on this topic, do you think you have found any Tulpae believers on this forum? 

May I ask what you hope to accomplish by conducting this poll?

And also, how much time do you invest in interacting with real people?  Not forum members or your tulpa.

I'm kind of finding myself feeling that you are just really lonely, and perhaps having trouble making human connections, so you have created this elaborate fantasy to occupy yourself.  And then you come to an atheist forum, and rather than engaging in the topics that are important to most members here, you insist on talking about your tulpa, over and over and over again. 

You see, when you are interacting with real people, (even online) you are likely to have a more meaningful connection if you find an area of common interest.  I'm kind of guessing that this is something that you are having trouble doing in your life.  (And please correct me if I am wrong.)   But it seems that you are trying to get attention in a really non-productive way on this forum.  And you may do that in your real life interactions as well, which is perhaps the reason that you decided to create your tulpa. And then, for some odd reason, you create a tulpa who has inexplicably different interests from your own.  She likes fire and you like water.  This to me, is really telling.  You've created this artificial divide, and yet you are still the best of buddies.  Could it be that this is what you want to do with real people, in your real life?  Because we all have differences, and our differences often give us interesting things to talk about. But usually, after we have already established a common set of interests.

You are clearly a smart, creative guy.  But I have to admit, I'm kind of worried about you.  If this tulpa thing is sort of a rehearsal for starting to develop strong human friendships, I suppose it is a sort of interesting exercise.  But I really hope that you try  to move on to the next step soon.

Is there anything other than tulpas that you are interested in talking about?   
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: ThatZenoGuy on October 04, 2013, 08:03:19 AM
Based on the multi-page discussion that you have going already on this topic, do you think you have found any Tulpae believers on this forum? 

Hmm, i not believe so.

May I ask what you hope to accomplish by conducting this poll?

Nothing in particular, just basic statistics.

And also, how much time do you invest in interacting with real people?  Not forum members or your tulpa.

With my friends?...Well, a lot of them live rather far away, so its hard to see them in person all the time, we often chat on skype.

I'm kind of finding myself feeling that you are just really lonely, and perhaps having trouble making human connections, so you have created this elaborate fantasy to occupy yourself.  And then you come to an atheist forum, and rather than engaging in the topics that are important to most members here, you insist on talking about your tulpa, over and over and over again. 

Indeed, i am rather lonely at times, i am very finicky with my friends, only top notch will suffice ;D.
I know the topic of tulpae is off-topic (hence this is in the off-topic section), and i will probably post more tulpa related topics, but live and let live, no?

You see, when you are interacting with real people, (even online) you are likely to have a more meaningful connection if you find an area of common interest. 

Of course, but in order to know what connections you have, you must investigate ;D.

I'm kind of guessing that this is something that you are having trouble doing in your life.  (And please correct me if I am wrong.)

You are indeed wrong, i know what connections i have with others, its just that there are very few to start with xD.

But it seems that you are trying to get attention in a really non-productive way on this forum.

I would say the same thing, but ehh, i'm enjoying the questions and opinions.

And you may do that in your real life interactions as well, which is perhaps the reason that you decided to create your tulpa.

Must disagree here, i do not do so with people.

And then, for some odd reason, you create a tulpa who has inexplicably different interests from your own.  She likes fire and you like water.  This to me, is really telling.  You've created this artificial divide, and yet you are still the best of buddies. 

Actually, i created Alexis with the fear of fire, ironically, she does not fear it. (I'm not bullshitting either, i can even post the personality sheet i made for her.)

Could it be that this is what you want to do with real people, in your real life?  Because we all have differences, and our differences often give us interesting things to talk about. But usually, after we have already established a common set of interests.

No, i like having friends i can connect with, although if i had a friend who i could light on fire, that would be cool. (Heheh, get it?...Cool...)

You are clearly a smart, creative guy.  But I have to admit, I'm kind of worried about you.  If this tulpa thing is sort of a rehearsal for starting to develop strong human friendships, I suppose it is a sort of interesting exercise.  But I really hope that you try  to move on to the next step soon.

If there is one thing i have learnt about most people (well, modern day teenagers near my age), about 99.9% of them are assholes, there is no dismissing this.
Sadly, those .01% of actually nice people are rather hard to come by.
Of course Alexis cannot replace an actual friend, but she helps, a bit...

Is there anything other than tulpas that you are interested in talking about?   

Fishing, weapons, explosives, My little pony, Aliens (the movie), video games, movies, evolution, religion, people, Australia, deadly animals, warhammer 40k, paintball, BB guns, sci fi technology, lasers-
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: jynnan tonnix on October 04, 2013, 08:06:51 AM
I think the problem with this question is that in a case like this, it's hard to define what "real" is. If tulpamancy is, in effect, a self-induced delusion, even of true multiple-personality or schizophrenic proportions, the entities conjured up might not be "real" in the sense that they exist as entities in their own right, but are very real in the effects they produce on their host's mind and, sometimes, in resulting behavior, which, unfortunately might, very occasionally, engender real carnage...

In this sort of case, the line between an entity's actual, independent existence and the level of reality it produces within the host's mind is sort of moot, because while, let's say, the voices telling him to go blow up a school would be imperceptible on any other level, to any other person, he does, indeed hear them in a very real, tangible way. Those voices are nothing but products of a chemically imbalanced mind, but they are, for all intents and purposes, real. They exist, and they can cause very real effects.

I know this is a pretty convoluted post. I'm trying to explain what I am thinking, but I'm not sure it's working out.
Another cup of coffee might be helpful, but I need to get going on some other things.

Edited to stress that I'm not saying Angus or Alexis are threats to society, but just trying to figure out where a line can be drawn as to the reality of things that might not really exist outside of the mind.
 
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: ThatZenoGuy on October 04, 2013, 08:08:53 AM
I think the problem with this question is that in a case like this, it's hard to define what "real" is. If tulpamancy is, in effect, a self-induced delusion, even of true multiple-personality or schizophrenic proportions, the entities conjured up might not be "real" in the sense that they exist as entities in their own right, but are very real in the effects they produce on their host's mind and, sometimes, in resulting behavior, which, unfortunately might, very occasionally, engender real carnage...

The question is opinion based, from what you know, are tulpae real or not, the answer is hilariously simple.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: jynnan tonnix on October 04, 2013, 08:15:48 AM
I don't think the answer is as simple as you might think...there can be a lot of subtleties in delusion. Fiction can take on a life of its own, and cults based upon fiction, for example, can be very real, making the fiction, in effect, part of real life. I think your tulpamancy might fall into this sort of category.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: ThatZenoGuy on October 04, 2013, 08:19:13 AM
I don't think the answer is as simple as you might think...there can be a lot of subtleties in delusion. Fiction can take on a life of its own, and cults based upon fiction, for example, can be very real, making the fiction, in effect, part of real life. I think your tulpamancy might fall into this sort of category.

So you find that fiction equals reality?
Then click yes then.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: hickdive on October 04, 2013, 08:27:59 AM
What do you mean by 'real'?

In the sense that they are detectable by people other than their creator?

In the sense that you genuinely experience interactions with yours?

In the latter case then yes, I am prepared to believe that you do actually experience yours in that way. However, that is in much the same way that a christian experiences a "relationship with jesus".

In the former case, no they are not real.

Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: ThatZenoGuy on October 04, 2013, 08:30:12 AM
What do you mean by 'real'?

In the sense that they are detectable by people other than their creator?

In the sense that you genuinely experience interactions with yours?

In the latter case then yes, I am prepared to believe that you do actually experience yours in that way. However, that is in much the same way that a christian experiences a "relationship with jesus".

In the former case, no they are not real.

The poll is entirely opinion based, no strings attached, yes, no, or maybe.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: jdawg70 on October 04, 2013, 08:32:29 AM
The poll is entirely opinion based, no strings attached, yes, no, or maybe.
Unfortunately, that means the numbers for 'yes', 'no', and 'maybe' in the poll are entirely meaningless.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: ThatZenoGuy on October 04, 2013, 08:36:07 AM
Unfortunately, that means the numbers for 'yes', 'no', and 'maybe' in the poll are entirely meaningless.

Never stated they were, did i? ;P
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: jdawg70 on October 04, 2013, 08:44:36 AM
Unfortunately, that means the numbers for 'yes', 'no', and 'maybe' in the poll are entirely meaningless.

Never stated they were, did i? ;P
Then this poll is no different than "Do farbots multigate strageo?  Yes, no, maybe"
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: One Above All on October 04, 2013, 08:45:39 AM
Define "real".
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: ThatZenoGuy on October 04, 2013, 08:46:44 AM
Define "real".

You tell me.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: One Above All on October 04, 2013, 08:46:59 AM
Then this poll is no different than "Do farbots multigate strageo?  Yes, no, maybe"

Clearly the answer is "no", because flugul woople magle.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: One Above All on October 04, 2013, 08:47:48 AM
You tell me.

It's your poll. You're the one who has to define the term if you want an honest and relevant answer. Otherwise, I stand by what jdawg70 said.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: ThatZenoGuy on October 04, 2013, 08:49:04 AM
It's your poll. You're the one who has to define the term if you want an honest and relevant answer. Otherwise, I stand by what jdawg70 said.

It is an opinion based poll, if "No" is your answer, then so be it.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: One Above All on October 04, 2013, 08:51:30 AM
It is an opinion based poll, if "No" is your answer, then so be it.

<snip>
I stand by what jdawg70 said.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: ThatZenoGuy on October 04, 2013, 08:54:36 AM
Then this poll is no different than "Do farbots multigate strageo?  Yes, no, maybe"

Clearly the answer is "no", because flugul woople magle.

You stated the answer would be "No".
Although, i believe rammastan fargle wooble...yes...
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: jynnan tonnix on October 04, 2013, 08:59:39 AM
The problem is that the "reality" of tulpae is directly dependent on how one defines "reality". And since it is your poll, you need to let us know what that is, otherwise there is no answer. It might be "yes" in one case, "no" in another, and even "maybe" depends on one's definition of "maybe"...it might mean, "my mind is not made up", or it might mean "yes in the case of one definition, no in the case of another".

That is why you are not getting takers for your poll.

What do you hope to gain by our answers?
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: ThatZenoGuy on October 04, 2013, 09:03:31 AM
The problem is that the "reality" of tulpae is directly dependent on how one defines "reality". And since it is your poll, you need to let us know what that is, otherwise there is no answer. It might be "yes" in one case, "no" in another, and even "maybe" depends on one's definition of "maybe"...it might mean, "my mind is not made up", or it might mean "yes in the case of one definition, no in the case of another".

That is why you are not getting takers for your poll.

What do you hope to gain by our answers?

*Brain aneurysm*

Okay...
Real: Being or occurring in fact or actuality.

Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: screwtape on October 04, 2013, 09:38:11 AM
I don't think the poll question is complete.  I think you need to talk a little bit about what it "real" means and what "existence" is. 

We had a thread here started by an ardent (militant?) atheist entitled "God is imaginary (http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/forums/index.php/topic,302.0.html)".  He made an argument that imaginary things do exist because they have an impact on physical things by virtue of our actions.  So, fictitious characters - like gods and tulpae - do exist, just not in the way religious people - and tulpae fans - think.

Similarly, member Hermes frequently asked theists how god exists.  He would talk about different kinds of existence.  for example:
The word "exists" in "God exists" is possibly one or more of the following;

Concepts exist.
Emotions exist.
Inanimate objects exists.
Living non-human creatures exist.
Living humans exist.

So, all these things exist and are real, but not in the same ways.  If you asked Hermes and a theist if god exists, they would both say "yes".  But their meanings would be vastly different.  On the one hand theists would say god exists as an invisible, incorporeal being of great power, kind of like a living human exists, only more.  But Hermes might say god exists as a concept or emotion, dependent on human minds, not an actual being capable of autonomy.

To get back to the OP, I believe tulpae exist, just not in the same way as you and not in the way you mean in the poll.  I think they are essentially fictional characters people have invented in their minds, like imaginary friends, but have no more sentience or autonomy than characters in movies or books.  They are mental models of other personalities. 



Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: ThatZenoGuy on October 04, 2013, 09:47:10 AM
I don't think the poll question is complete.  I think you need to talk a little bit about what it "real" means and what "existence" is. 

I gave the definition of "real".
The question is also a closed question, so its rather straight forward...

I find it odd that people are saying yes and no, but there is only 4 votes in the poll 9_9.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: One Above All on October 04, 2013, 09:51:03 AM
Then this poll is no different than "Do farbots multigate strageo?  Yes, no, maybe"

Clearly the answer is "no", because flugul woople magle.

You stated the answer would be "No".
Although, i believe rammastan fargle wooble...yes...

(For a second there, I thought you had misspelled "Rammstein")
Yes, but flarple mooslet parp.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: ThatZenoGuy on October 04, 2013, 09:52:48 AM
(For a second there, I thought you had misspelled "Rammstein")
Yes, but flarple mooslet parp.

Heretic, everyone knows plorp estens hardlet garble!
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: Azdgari on October 04, 2013, 10:09:45 AM
So you find that fiction equals reality?
Then click yes then.

You're the one who wrote the question, containing the word "real".  The definition of "real" within this poll is one that you have the responsibility of setting, for the purpose of the poll.

This is something that you ought to control for if you wish to have your poll results mean anything whatsoever.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: Azdgari on October 04, 2013, 10:13:40 AM
I gave the definition of "real". ...

No, you did not.  Not in a way that is relevant to the issues people have brought up so far.  Is this thread just a practical joke on the forum membership?  Seems that way.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: ThatZenoGuy on October 04, 2013, 10:19:42 AM
Real: defined as "Being or occurring in fact or actuality".

How is that not a definition O.o.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: One Above All on October 04, 2013, 10:23:18 AM
Real: defined as "Being or occurring in fact or actuality".

How is that not a definition O.o.

Like my smite said, that's as ambiguous as saying "real". It's a non-definition.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: jynnan tonnix on October 04, 2013, 10:23:52 AM
Reread Screwtape's reply (#33). I think he has explained it best. Far better than my attempts.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: Azdgari on October 04, 2013, 10:27:22 AM
It's far, far too vague, a fact that you should realize if you've put any thought into reading anyone's posts in this thread so far.  Darth Vader and my computer both occur in fact or actuality.  Just in different ways.

A thread asking "Is Darth Vader real?" would need to specify what sense of reality it's asking about, otherwise it would get answers of both "yes" and "no" from people with the same beliefs regarding Darth Vader, but with different interpretations of the question.  That destroys the integrity of any data obtained, because you won't be able to, for example, tell how many of the "yes" votes are from people who believe Darth Vader to physically exist as a real person, and how many of the "yes" votes are from people who believe he exists as a literary figure.

I find it very hard to believe that you do not yet understand this problem, given the number of times it has come up as a topic since you've started posting here.  Your playing dumb in this thread lends credence to the "practical joke on forum membership" hypothesis.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: ThatZenoGuy on October 04, 2013, 10:29:05 AM
Okay...

Real: Defined as "Something that exists in some form or another in the universe"...
Does this work...
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: Azdgari on October 04, 2013, 10:32:43 AM
Your dogged determination not to differentiate between subjective mental existence and objective physical existence[1] in your question reflects poorly on your sincerity.
 1. Let alone the nuances within those categories
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: ThatZenoGuy on October 04, 2013, 10:33:56 AM
Your dogged determination not to differentiate between subjective mental existence and external physical existence in your question reflects poorly on your sincerity.

What do you mean?
You asked for a definition, and i gave you one to use.
So do tulpae exist or not?

I really do not want to start an argument here.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: One Above All on October 04, 2013, 10:35:51 AM
Okay...

Real: Defined as "Something that exists in some form or another in the universe"...
Does this work...

By that definition, everything exists. Try again.
I'm close to calling this one, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't have some fun in the meantime.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: jynnan tonnix on October 04, 2013, 10:37:51 AM
It doesn't work if what you are trying to determine is what the members of this forum actually believe.

Again, what is your aim in asking this question? Your parameters are far too broad to make any answer we give meaningful. What if everyone said "yes" under this definition? Would you be any closer to knowing what we actually think?


Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: ThatZenoGuy on October 04, 2013, 10:39:42 AM
Quote
I'm close to calling this one, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't have some fun in the meantime.

What O_o?

I don't quite get whats going on here though...
Do you believe tulpae are real or not?
I cannot put it any simpler.

Scratch that, just click "No" if you do not get the question...

Again, what is your aim in asking this question? Your parameters are far too broad to make any answer we give meaningful. What if everyone said "yes" under this definition? Would you be any closer to knowing what we actually think?

No particular point, just a random question of insignificance.

Due to lack of progress, the question now asks who is the best pony.
Choose wisely...
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: jdawg70 on October 04, 2013, 10:54:56 AM
I don't quite get whats going on here though...
Do you believe tulpae are real or not?
I cannot put it any simpler.
Fine.  It's simple.  Now make it less vague, damn it.
Quote
No particular point, just a random question of insignificance.

Due to lack of progress, the question now asks who is the best pony.
Choose wisely...
Perhaps the lack of progress is a result in your lack of sincerity in giving any shit about the question and subsequent answers.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: One Above All on October 04, 2013, 10:55:41 AM
I'm calling it. OP is a troll. I advise everyone to stop wasting their time.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: ThatZenoGuy on October 04, 2013, 10:58:13 AM
Perhaps the lack of progress is a result in your lack of sincerity in giving any shit about the question and subsequent answers.

Personally is do not care about the answers, and thus i made the question fool proof...

But anyway, who is indeed the best pony?

I'm calling it. OP is a troll. I advise everyone to stop wasting their time.

I assure you I am not a troll (Heck, im trying to get rid of one from a blog...).
I'm just.... :| ...annoyingly bad at social skills?
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: Azdgari on October 04, 2013, 11:13:01 AM
Personally is do not care about the answers, and thus i made the question fool proof...

If you do not care about the answers to this poll, then neither should any people who might otherwise have voted in it.

/thread, killed by you
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: ThatZenoGuy on October 04, 2013, 11:14:35 AM
Personally is do not care about the answers, and thus i made the question fool proof...

If you do not care about the answers to this poll, then neither should any people who might otherwise have voted in it.

/thread, killed by you

I guess I really should have cared more about this thread...

That aside, who IS the best pony?

Edit: Surely there must be at-least ONE brony here O.o.
Title: Re: Tulpae real or not? (Poll)
Post by: screwtape on October 04, 2013, 11:35:29 AM
There are no bronies here.  And if there are, they are smart enough to not let on.

I'm disappointed you started a thread and a poll you didn't actually care about.  Please don't do that in the future.