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Title: Switzerland Abandoning Relgiously-themed National Anthem
Post by: naemhni on August 08, 2013, 08:17:01 AM
The Swiss government is holding a competition, open to all Swiss citizens, to write a new, secular anthem to replace the existing religiously-oriented one.  Another sign of the times.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/switzerland-to-replace-psalm-like-national-anthem-with-a-secular-one-101744/
Title: Re: Switzerland Abandoning Relgiously-themed National Anthem
Post by: Anfauglir on August 08, 2013, 08:26:09 AM
Maybe when they do we can start the ball rolling on ours as well?

I coulsn't tell from the article whether the idea was to keep the same tune or not - not having heard it its hard to say, but in general I hope they do.  After all, 99% of people just hum along after the first couple lines anyways.....
Title: Re: Switzerland Abandoning Relgiously-themed National Anthem
Post by: neopagan on August 08, 2013, 09:10:46 AM
^^^  Could we even call the Star Spangled Banner in the US a religiously-oriented anthem as it is sung/used today?  I know further down in verse 4(?) there are some deistic appeals, but I think you'd be hard-pressed to find many people who even knew the national anthem had more than one verse. 

You might draw more attention to the issue, and get the religious right and theists in a twitter by even suggesting the change.  Heaven forbid (pun intended), we'd have the Tea Party and all NASCAR fans pushing for Congress to pass a law that all four verses be sung...

Good for the Swiss, nonetheless
Title: Re: Switzerland Abandoning Relgiously-themed National Anthem
Post by: Mrjason on August 08, 2013, 10:13:25 AM
^^^ I think Anfauglir is talking about "god save the queen"

Title: Re: Switzerland Abandoning Relgiously-themed National Anthem
Post by: neopagan on August 08, 2013, 11:57:43 AM
aha!  you mean I cannot americanize evry conversation here?  :laugh:

Title: Re: Switzerland Abandoning Relgiously-themed National Anthem
Post by: Nick on August 08, 2013, 05:50:20 PM
Will they next recall the Swiss guard from the Vatican?
Title: Re: Switzerland Abandoning Relgiously-themed National Anthem
Post by: Anfauglir on August 09, 2013, 04:59:29 AM
aha!  you mean I cannot americanize evry conversation here?  :laugh:

Damn colonials!   ;D
Title: Re: Switzerland Abandoning Relgiously-themed National Anthem
Post by: AverageMoe on August 14, 2013, 04:38:47 PM
What's so good about giving up 172 years of history just to appease non-believers.
Title: Re: Switzerland Abandoning Relgiously-themed National Anthem
Post by: LoriPinkAngel on August 15, 2013, 09:56:22 AM
^^^  Could we even call the Star Spangled Banner in the US a religiously-oriented anthem as it is sung/used today? 

The American National Anthem is solo piece that very few people can sing.  The pop stars who perform it at sports events massacre it.  They should euthanize that work if they aren't going to allow it to be done the way it was written.
Title: Re: Switzerland Abandoning Relgiously-themed National Anthem
Post by: screwtape on August 15, 2013, 10:16:47 AM
I don't care for the star spangled banner.  The melody was taken from a british drinking song, so they say.  The lyrics are all about war.  I have always preferred America the Beautiful.  Better tune, better sentiment.  I'd like to replace the "god shed his grace on thee" part with something else, though, and make that our national anthem.
Title: Re: Switzerland Abandoning Relgiously-themed National Anthem
Post by: neopagan on August 15, 2013, 01:51:15 PM
Wouldn't it be a better idea to deal with the Swiss flag first, if they really want to deal with this issue?
Title: Re: Switzerland Abandoning Relgiously-themed National Anthem
Post by: Nam on August 15, 2013, 02:54:50 PM
What's so good about giving up 172 years of history just to appease non-believers.

By your logic then slavery should still exist, South Africa should go back to being a state of white power, the world should go back under religious dictatorships under the Pope (goodbye protestantism in the US) etc., etc.,

Do you think before you make inane comments. Doubtful. I've read two of your comments so far, and you do have that idiotic streak going for you.

-Nam
Title: Re: Switzerland Abandoning Relgiously-themed National Anthem
Post by: nogodsforme on August 15, 2013, 04:55:47 PM
^^^No, we should abandon industrial production, agriculture and settled civilization entirely. Go back 10,000 years to hunter-gatherer life. Why stop at only 172 years? Older ideas and practices are always better.  &)
Title: Re: Switzerland Abandoning Relgiously-themed National Anthem
Post by: Nam on August 16, 2013, 02:12:28 PM
True, true.

-Nam
Title: Re: Switzerland Abandoning Relgiously-themed National Anthem
Post by: Willie on August 18, 2013, 03:54:42 PM
What's so good about giving up 172 years of history just to appease non-believers.

Why not, when so much of that kind of stuff is only there in the first place to appease the religious? Like "In God We Trust" on U.S. currency, or "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance, neither of which were originally present, and neither of which serves any non-contrived secular purpose. Removing it doesn't exclude the religious, it just stops giving them preferential treatment.
Title: Re: Switzerland Abandoning Relgiously-themed National Anthem
Post by: Hatter23 on August 20, 2013, 09:21:08 AM
"Oh Beautiful for smoggy skies, insecticided grain,
For strip-mined mountain's majesty above the asphalt plain.
America, America, man sheds his waste on thee,
And hides the pines with billboard signs, from sea to oily sea."

George Carlin, who I think was stealing a bit from Mad Magazine