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Title: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: viocjit on May 03, 2013, 12:19:19 PM
1.Why are you atheist ?

2.How are you became atheist ?

3.Where are you from ?

4.How old are you ?

5.Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife) ? If no , can you explain why ?

6.Did you read all the Bible ? If you read all the bible what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...) ?

7.Did you read all the Quran ? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran).

8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ?

9.What are yours hobbies ?

10.Can you define the goal of the life ?

11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist.

12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ?

13.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ?

14.What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions ?

15.What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s) ?

16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Can you explain why ?

17.Do you fear to dead ? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...).

18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason.

19.Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions ? If yes or no explain please.

20.Do you think that politic is like religion ? Explain why this is not equal or not.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Seppuku on May 03, 2013, 01:09:01 PM
1.Why are you atheist ?

This has a long answer. But I will give the short version. I see no evidence to suggest that any deities exist.

2.How are you became atheist ?

I became an atheist when I was quite young. To be honest, I wasn't a very strong Christian, I believed in it because I was told it was true. When I questioned it, I found some strange things. I was probably 9 or 10 when I questioned it. I didn't take the label 'atheist' until about age 12 or 13...simply because I didn't know the term. I went through a period of strong dislike for Christianity. Interestingly, the definition I use for 'atheism' is the one a Christian taught me, my form tutor at school was a strong Christian, but he was very open and very good about his beliefs. He was one Christian who kinda led me to think, "well, maybe I'm being a bit hard on Christians", but I really thought Christians were screwed up. It had me looking at things from the other side. Probably about age 14 I was a lot more tolerant.

3.Where are you from ?

A town just outside of Cambridge in the UK.

4.How old are you ?

24 at the end of this month.

5.Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife) ? If no , can you explain why ?

No. For the same reason I listed for being an atheist, there's not enough evidence to support it. However, there was a time when I was an atheist and believed in the afterlife, I believed in some form of reincarnation, but since then I realised that my belief was baseless.

6.Did you read all the Bible ? If you read all the bible what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...) ?

No. I have read a lot of what's in the bible. Often I will also rely on what different Christians claim. Normally I will look through Bibles like the Kings James Version, but if need be, I will look at multiple translations. There's also things I was taught as kid growing up about the bible from Christians and as part of a curriculum.

7.Did you read all the Quran ? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran).

No. In fact, I know very little of the Quran. I don't get in many discussions about Islam, nor is it something I've grown up with, so I've had very little reason to.

8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ?

Yes. The Dhammapada, one of the Buddhists texts. I've got it on my shelf.

9.What are yours hobbies ?

Writing, reading, programming, 3D art, Karate (though I haven't done it for a while), cycling, listening to metal and going to metal concerts & festivals, heck I go to a festival every year.

10.Can you define the goal of the life ?

The goal of anybody's life is defined by the individual and it is subject to change. Well, I guess those who aren't free don't define their goals, but rather have them defined by others.

11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist.

No. People have told me that I will, but I don't think it's worth thinking about. There's too many possibilities for what supposedly 'happens' after death, that Judeo-Christian ideas don't worry me, sure they are ripe within the society I grew up in, but I discarded such thoughts when I stopped believing, perhaps not straight away, but then of course there is that transition period.

12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ?

I accept the possibility, simply because I do not rule out any possibilities, no matter how remote. It doesn't mean I give them credibility. I feel that the probability for the existen of God, with all the assumptions required for His existence, I would suggest the probability is so low, that I don't think it's worth me considering that perhaps he exists. For me, it suggests the alternative is more likely. Some versions of God being less likely than others. As far as I am concerned, God is equal to any fictional character, except He's got a large number of people who believe in his existence. So, one might ask, "why do you accept the possibility of the existence of God, but not Spongebob" to which I respond, "I accept the possibility of the existence of Spongebob, because I am unable to falsify the claim, however, based on what I understand of the world and of Spongebob, it's highly unlikely he exists". If he either are shown to exist, of course, it will be a huge shock on my understanding of reality. I don't mean to highlight Spongebob as mockery, but it should give an idea of how fictional any deities are to me.

13.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ?

Depends on the person. I don't like to generalise about people, everybody is their own person. On the basis of monotheism itself? I just think they're welcome to it, I think what they believe is baseless, but 'monotheism' on its own, it doesn't bother me.

14.What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions ?

I feel no different about polytheists than I do about monotheists.

15.What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s) ?

Like Buddhism? Depends on the person and their beliefs. For example not all Buddhists are peace loving and gentle. Whilst I am non-religious, I am in fact a philosophical Buddhist, hence I've got a copy of the Dammapada on my shelf. Not all types of Buddhis, require a deity and not all forms require religious belief. I am sure there are other atheistic religions, however, I am not familiar with others. I'll consider the individuals and the beliefs they follow. I accept it's possible to be religious and an atheist.

16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Can you explain why ?

I don't seek philosophy for answers in life, perhaps I once did, but I find the arguments interesting and I do relate to some philosophy, I find it as a topic to be interesting, hence I studied it for my A-Levels and as a topic it's great with critical thinking skills. There's something I agree with, some I don't, but I think it's healthy to learn what others think and and under other thought processes and arguments for logic.

17.Do you fear to dead ? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...).

I don't actively fear death, but if placed in a life threatening situation, including with my friends and family, then I do fear it. I don't want to lose my life, I like living and I also love my friends and family and would never want to lose them. But I also accept it's a natural part of life, it's horrible, but with loss, I cope by having fond memories of the person I've lost.

18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason.

Yes and no. There's many aspects I like, I enjoy my hobbies, I enjoy being with the people I care about and there have been many great experiences I've had living and I know I will go onto experience more. The aspects I don't like, I don't like the fact my friends live 2 hours away, I don't like my job and I don't like that life can throw you some downers and there's sometimes shit you have to deal with. I don't like many aspects of the reality we live in, some of the harsh cruelties, whilst I don't really experience them first hand. The issues with my life, they're always something to improve upon and things that can be changed.

19.Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions ? If yes or no explain please.

No. I would much rather live in a world without cruelty. I see religion being responsible for a lot of cruelty, but there are many decent religious folks and many who do work towards something good. To be honest, I would much rather ally with good people and hate the bad things in the world than to think of religion as some kind of evil corrupt force that must be eradicated. I think eradicating religion may help with some problems, but on the whole, I don't think it'll do much good.

20.Do you think that politic is like religion ? Explain why this is not equal or not.

To a degree. It's often a controversial topic and political and religious leaders use their idealistic views in attempt to control the masses, some may act for the masses. There are those with great speeches and those who lie and bullshit from their teeth and hypocrites. But this is looking at organised religion and politics. Religion and politics as subject, no, I would say they're different. Religion is about a super natural higher order governing the universe, whereas politics is about governing a society. At least with government, you know leaders exist and they can be replaced if they aren't doing right by the masses.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: wright on May 03, 2013, 01:41:01 PM
Welcome to the forum, viocjit. Hope you're not a driveby and will actually engage in some discussion here.

1.Why are you atheist ?

Finally realized there was no real evidence for the Christian god or any god.

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2.How are you became atheist ?

A gradual process. I was a Christian for 15 years, but was always uneasy about the inconsistencies of my professed religion. Finally I realized that if that god did not exist and was made up like any other myth by ignorant or power-hungry people, things made a lot more sense.

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3.Where are you from ?

Central coast of California, USA. Yourself? I get the impression English is not your native language (much better than my Spanish, though  :laugh:).

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4.How old are you ?

50, going on 51.

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5.Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife) ? If no , can you explain why ?

No. No more evidence for that than any other aspect of the "supernatural", which is to say: none.

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6.Did you read all the Bible ? If you read all the bible what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...) ?

Read the entire thing twice while a Christian, have reread favorite bits since then (selected Psalms, 1st Corinthians, Ecclesiastes).

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7.Did you read all the Quran ? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran).

Just a few translated passages.

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8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ?

Again, a few translated passages of the Hindu Upanishads. That's it, really.

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9.What are yours hobbies ?

Poetry, writing in general, surfing, hiking, roleplaying, gardening.
 
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10.Can you define the goal of the life ?

If you mean the goal of living things, then the general goal is: survive to perpetuate oneself. Human goals vary from individual to individual.

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11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist.

Since I'm confident that no god or afterlife conceived by humans exists, I'm also unafraid of Hell. That was one of the great benefits of becoming an atheist and I highly recommend it.

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12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ?

I'm an agnostic atheist; I can't absolutely rule out that some god might exist somewhere and reveal itself to me in the future. But given every known religion's failure to provide actual evidence for their deity or deities throughout recorded history, it seems very unlikely.

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13.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ?

14.What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions ?

I think they're irrational. That in itself isn't a bad thing; I'm pretty irrational myself much of the time. And I understand the comfort that religious belief can bring.

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15.What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s) ?

Buddhism is the only example of this I know. I find many aspects of that faith admirable, just as I find some aspects of Christianity admirable. The doctrines of reincarnation and karma are pretty silly, though. No more evidence for that than there is of Christianity's Original Sin.

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16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Can you explain why ?

Obviously, since I frequent this forum. And believe it or not, we atheists debate such things among ourselves all the time. I'm curious about different approaches to life because I recognize my great ignorance about the world, and try to correct that. I don't always like the answers, but that's the nature of learning if we're honest with ourselves.

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17.Do you fear to dead ? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...).

I'm well into middle age and have realized that another 20-30 years (unless I'm run over by some texting idiot in a Prius later today) isn't forever. Yes, I don't relish the thought of dying. But I accept that it will, and have seen how the legacies of others that have died continue after their deaths.

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18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason.

What's not to like about it? I have resources sufficient for me and my cat, I live in a peaceful community, I have no major health issues (carrying a bit excess weight, but working on that), my close friends and family are all prospering and reasonably happy.

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19.Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions ? If yes or no explain please.

My ideal would not be a world where religion has no place, but stays the fuck out of politics. Here in the US, it's an ongoing struggle to keep our society and government free of religious doctrine.

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20.Do you think that politic is like religion ? Explain why this is not equal or not.

Sure, politics can be like religion: both easily lead to rigid hierarchies and mindsets that can do a lot of damage to society.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Morgan on May 03, 2013, 02:26:27 PM
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Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Jag on May 03, 2013, 02:34:30 PM
Well, this is as good a way to ignore homework a little longer as any I guess. I'll play.
1.Why are you atheist ?
I'm a former theist, raised in a catholic family. I saw some contradictory things when I was in my early teens that made me question that faith, but it was many years later before I realized that I don't actually believe in god(s) at all. I'm highly inquisitive by nature, and I just can't find a compelling argument for much of anything in existence that requires a god to exist. I don't have all the answers, but I find the ones provided by science to be far more believable, reasonable, and rational.

2.How are you became atheist ?
I didn't become one (we don't recruit for goodness sakes), I realized that I am one, by definition. If one does not believe in the existence of a supernatural being, one is an atheist. It's not an alternative to or for religion, it's a lack of belief in a god.

3.Where are you from ?
I've lived in Minnesota since I was 2. I'm still a bit resentful about being brought here against my will as a baby; I'm not a fan of snow, but my life is here now, long snowy winters and all.

4.How old are you ?
46

5.Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife) ? If no , can you explain why ?
Sort of, but probably not the way you mean. This is really abstract, so no worries if it sounds a bit loony. I don't believe in reincarnation, but I'm not convinced that the ... energy, for lack of a better word, that powers my psyche will cease to exist after my body expires. Sort of like the idea that all matter in existence has always existed. Matter changes form but doesn't disappear, or quit being. Wow, I'm not saying this very well... NdeGT talks about how all of us are created from stardust, and the Catholic Ash Wednesday ritual states "remember man that you are dust, and unto dust you shall return" - both of these say the same thing to me. The body disappears, but the essence continues. Now that I've just gone deeply into "woo", I should make very clear - I don't believe that humans retain any awareness or sense of self post-death. If what makes us human is anything beyond the electrical impulses that drive our brains, that whatever-it-is simply returns to the stars. And it's really just a pretty thought, I'm deep into speculation here.

6.Did you read all the Bible ? If you read all the bible what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...) ?
Not in one go, no. I think I've read the whole thing in pieces though, if you allow for skimming some of the really dragged out parts. Catholic version

7.Did you read all the Quran ? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran).
Never have, no. I'm somewhat familiar with the general beliefs, but certainly not to the degree that I am with Christianity

8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ?
Hmm, that depends. I've read some Buddist and Hindu writings, and I've read some apologetics, though not many. I'm more interested in philosophical discussion that religious ones, but there can be a lot of overlap.

9.What are yours hobbies ?
Full-time college student so my hobbies have taken a back seat lately. I love to cook, I read a lot and about a wide variety of topics, I genuinely enjoy learning new things (ideally with practical application), I sew. I spend time with my friends, often at a bar over beer, I passenger on the back of my BF's motorcycle, and watch a little tv/movies/documentaries. I'm highly impatient for spring to arrive for real - I'll move my homework and most of my life outside as soon as it finally gets here.

10.Can you define the goal of the life ?
I'll take a stab at this, because I'm not sure what you mean. If you're asking "what is the meaning of life?", my answer is "to live it", it has no purpose aside from to be lived. Since I don't believe in a creator god, it follows that I also don't believe in a divine plan. The only meaning is that given by each individual to it's own existence. What one chooses to do with it is it's purpose. Liberating and scary at the same time, huh? And please note that I did not say anything whatsoever about morals - that is a completely different question that I'm not addressing at the moment.

11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist.
Weirdly enough, that very thought is the one I had the hardest time letting go of, not because it was so frightening, but because it was so deeply embedded in my consciousness. I had a very hard time admitting to myself that I didn't believe in God, because I was screwed if I was wrong. This next part is important to understand though - I already didn't believe in God, and I knew that I didn't believe. That's why I was screwed - if I was wrong, God would know that I had not believed in his existence until I had already died and was then burning in hell. Once I finally figured out just how f'ed up that circular logic loop really was, I was finally able to just shrug it off. There's literally nothing I can do about it in any case so why bother worrying about it? I can't decide to believe in something. Gods, unicorns, fairies, Bigfoot - I don't believe in any of them. Same goes for Thor, Zeus, Aphrodite, Loki, or the Aztec one with the really complicated name.

12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ?
I used to, but not for a really long time now. I can sort of get behind the idea of a deist sort of entity - I'm comfortably with the position that if there is a creator entity of some sort, it's been otherwise occupied since the Big Bang. I think it's unlikely, but I can accept the possibility easily enough. I don't in any way believe in the modern interpretation of bible god, I don't at all think anything in the bible is literal truth (and never have), and the OT god is out of the question.

13.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ?
They are at least in part the product of their environment. All other things held equal, if you had been raised in the Middle East, you would almost certainly be a Muslim. If you were Indian, you would likely be Hindu. Culture plays a very big role in guiding one's religious beliefs.

14.What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions ?
Mostly the same thing as above

15.What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s) ?
That they are perhaps wiser than most of us. I also tend to view non-god religions as philosophies, rather than religions. That may just be me.

16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Can you explain why ?
I enjoy philosophical discussions, and I read some. I prefer discussion, as the subjects can get very abstract and it helps me think it through more easily if there is an opportunity for exchange and clarification. I don't necessarily look to this for "answers" the way I think you mean though. What I find is that it allows me to understand why I believe the things I do, and to see if those beliefs make sense if I take the time to examine them. I enjoy making sense of my own mind, and thankfully I can laugh at myself when I find an absurdity in my head. It happens a bit more often than I'd like to admit.

17.Do you fear to dead ? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...).
Unsure of your meaning - three choices: am I afraid of dying? Am I afraid of my loved ones dying? Am I afraid of dead people? I apologize, but I'm not sure which, if any, is correct.

18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason.
If you are asking if I'm satisfied yet, then no. I've returned to college to correct that. If you are asking if I'm happy with my life in a general sense, then yes, very much so. I have a boyfriend of many years and we are quite content, my kids are both in their 20's and living independently and doing very well with work and school; my oldest just became a first time daddy in January, so there's a new baby in the family too. Everyone I love is healthy and getting by, so I really have nothing to complain about.

19.Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions ? If yes or no explain please.
No. I do dream of a world in which religion and politics are not intertwined. I don't have any problem with theists in general, I have problems with their intrusion into politics, particularly when they push an oppressive agenda.

20.Do you think that politic is like religion ? Explain why this is not equal or not.
You're going to have to be much more specific in order to answer that.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Garja on May 03, 2013, 02:36:10 PM
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1.Why are you atheist ?

2.How are you became atheist ?

3.Where are you from ?

4.How old are you ?

5.Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife) ? If no , can you explain why ?

Wow, it would take entirely too long to give a good answer to all 20.  So, we will see how this goes.

1. I am an atheist because I do not find the arguments for the existence of god compelling.  There is exceedingly little evidence that suggests that there is any deity out there guiding the progress of the universe.  Further, I find the need for "faith" to be the biggest cop-out in the history of humankind.  I do not believe that an all knowing, all powerful, omnipresent being would create us with the ability to use logic and reason, to seek evidence and determine validity - and then make us in such a way that we cannot comprehend his existence.  It is a foolish notion.

2. I was a Christian for most of my life.  There were always things I found "off" about religion generally and Christianity specifically.  One day it clicked - that I had believed a lie.  My deconversion started in church actually.  A few months of thought and reading later it was clear that I no longer believed.

3. United States. Ohio.
4. 33
5. No.  I think we did not exist prior to our birth.  At death we return to that state of non-existence.

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6.Did you read all the Bible ? If you read all the bible what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...) ?

7.Did you read all the Quran ? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran).

8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ?

9.What are yours hobbies ?

10.Can you define the goal of the life ?
6. All? No.  Ive read relatively large chunks of it though.  NIV - protestant mostly
7. No
8. Relgious text? No.  Other religious books? yes
9. Gaming, hanging with my dogs, reading.
10. I do not believe life has an end goal.  We exist.  The goals we set in life are our own.

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11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist.

12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ?

13.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ?

14.What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions ?

15.What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s) ?

11. I do not think hell or any afterlife exists.  I believe that the doctrine of hell is an evil invention of man to try to force belief though fear.  It is rather effective on a lot of people.  I do sometimes fear that I am wrong and will go to hell.  Not often, but the irrational fear does sometimes creep into my thoughts.
12. God may exist, but I have not seen sufficient evidence to make me believe that.  I could be wrong, I just dont think I am.
13 and 14. They have an irrational belief system.  I dont condemn others for their belief, I only have a problem with their beliefs effect others negatively.
15. Honestly? I think whats the point?  A religion without gods just seems odd to me, like they are wasting their time.

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16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Can you explain why ?

17.Do you fear to dead ? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...).

18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason.

19.Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions ? If yes or no explain please.

20.Do you think that politic is like religion ? Explain why this is not equal or not.

16. I think philosophy has given most of what it can to society.
17. I do not want to die.  Most humans have a fear of the unknown.  I work off the assumption that I will resume the state of being that I was in before I was born - that is to say nonexistence.
18. Life is good.  Everyone has their problems, I am no different, but overall things are good.
19. Yes.  As stated above if people stopped hurting others in the name of their religion, or would stop telling people that "god doesn't like x,y,z" then fine.  Barring a complete change in human behavior however - a world with no religion sounds pretty good.
20. Similar in that it sometimes forces an "us vs. them" dichotomy.  Different because politicians actually exist, and politics actually have an impact on the people.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: One Above All on May 03, 2013, 02:46:58 PM
I'm only going to answer a few questions; the ones I think of as more relevant and the ones I understand.

1.Why are you atheist ?

Because my definition of "god" cannot exist. Ergo, I can state with absolute certainty that there are no gods (by my definition of the word, which is the only one that matters to me).

5.Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife) ? If no , can you explain why ?

No. Like gods, there is simply no evidence for an afterlife.

6.Did you read all the Bible ? If you read all the bible what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...) ?

7.Did you read all the Quran ? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran).

No and no. I see no reason to either.

8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ?

No.

10.Can you define the goal of the life ?

Only life forms can give their own lives meaning; there is no absolute meaning of life.

11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist.

Sometimes. But I still think that outcome is more preferable than bowing down to an imperfect being.

12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ?

Sometimes. Then I remember that there are no gods.

13.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ?

14.What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions ?

I think that they're idiots, but not necessarily evil or unworthy of respect and/or love. My first (and so far only) boyfriend was a theist, for one, yet I still loved him.

15.What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s) ?

I don't consider those religions; merely philosophies. That said, I think they're a bit silly, but I can understand their attraction to their philosophies.

17.Do you fear to dead ? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...).

I assume this means "Do you fear death?". The short answer is no. I see death as the ultimate fate of all things in the entire multiverse; something to be admired, respected and embraced, not feared.

18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason.

There are some aspects of my life I'm not happy about, but there are other things I do like about my life.

19.Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions ? If yes or no explain please.

My dreams don't involve religion in the usual sense of the word.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Energized on May 03, 2013, 03:49:35 PM
1.Why are you atheist ?
Because there is no evidence of the supernatural.

2.How are you became atheist ?
See here. http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/forums/index.php/topic,21283.msg473414.html#msg473414

3.Where are you from ?
Canada

4.How old are you ?
43

5.Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife) ? If no , can you explain why ?
No. If there’s no evidence of the supernatural, there’s no reason to believe there will be an afterlife.

6.Did you read all the Bible ? If you read all the bible what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...) ?
Yes – I have read the bible cover to cover a few times. I have also read the non-canonized books as well as whatever information has been made available regarding the “suspect” books (Gospel of Adam, Gospel of Judas, etc…)

7.Did you read all the Quran ? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran).
No.

8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ?
Book of Mormon.

9.What are yours hobbies ?
Knitting, music, and hanging with my wife and kids.

10.Can you define the goal of the life ?
My goal is to live a comfortable life and help out my fellow man.

11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist.
No.

12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ?
No. Given the evidence that points to no supernatural, why would I care about something that keeps itself hidden so well? I mean, I don’t think about Himalayan yaks either….

13.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ?

Believe what you want. But don’t cram it down my throat, don’t ask for special treatment because of it, and don’t trample on my rights not to believe it.

14.What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions ?
See above.

15.What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s) ?
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16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Can you explain why ?

No. Why does it need “answers”? Please define what you mean.

17.Do you fear to dead ? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...).
Of course. I will miss my family and friends. I won’t be there to see how their lives turned out after I died.

18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason.

Absolutely. My life is what I made of it and I am satisfied with  it. I have a nice house, my cars are paid for, my kids do well in school and I love my wife and family more than anything in this world. I would like to lose a little weight and I wish my hair wasn't so gray at 43, but overall I am pleased.

19.Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions ? If yes or no explain please.

Yes – I would love to live in a world where religion doesn’t define a culture or how it should behave. I'd love to open a paper and not read stories about how religious extremists are blowing people up. I would love to walk downtown and not see street preachers telling people they're going to hell.

Sadly, even if religion were wiped off the map (or never existed) some asshat somewhere would ruin it based on ideology.

I wish we could pass a law that states "don't be an asshole" and enforce it.

20.Do you think that politic is like religion ? Explain why this is not equal or not.
I don’t understand what you’re asking.

E.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Nam on May 03, 2013, 04:18:49 PM
Another questionnaire. Idiots.

-Nam
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Jag on May 03, 2013, 04:25:12 PM
^^^Meh, it beats showing up in full blown rant, telling us we're all bound for hellfire and damnation. No one is being forced to participate, but when I noticed that you had posted in this topic, I was actually hoping to get a bit better acquainted with you. You're a bit of an enigma.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Nam on May 03, 2013, 04:28:34 PM
^^^Meh, it beats showing up in full blown rant, telling us we're all bound for hellfire and damnation. No one is being forced to participate, but when I noticed that you had posted in this topic, I was actually hoping to get a bit better acquainted with you. You're a bit of an enigma.

No I'm not. I'm quite predictable.

-Nam
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Jag on May 03, 2013, 05:13:57 PM
Predictable, yes, but less shallow than your posts sometimes indicate.

I'm bracing myself for the sharp side of your tongue any day now, quite honestly. Your delivery tends to be somewhat...abrupt. You're very intelligent, but I sometimes have to work out your position on things - you don't generally give much context. You clearly state what you think, but not always why. I'm usually more interested in why, so to me, you're a bit of a mystery. And interesting because of it.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Seppuku on May 03, 2013, 05:16:17 PM
Eh, questionaire at least shows he's interested in what we think and why. Whilst quite basic, at least it offers some information and a starting point. Rather than jumping in with basless assumptions as many prefer to do. I thought it was kinda refreshing to be asked what I think. ;)
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Hierophant on May 03, 2013, 05:38:03 PM
Why are you atheist ?
Because I was born that way, just like everyone else. I just didn't get religion hammered in my head by my parents or school. I'm a native atheist.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: bertatberts on May 03, 2013, 06:12:41 PM
1.Why are you atheist ?
Technically you could say I am. However atheism is something you are from a theistic perspective.  The word only says what you're not, and that is  the term "theist" is not applicable to you. There has never been any evidence of god/gods to justify belief in them.

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2.How are you became atheist ?
I was born that way, the same as everybody else.

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3.Where are you from ?
Not relevant, to atheism. However if you must know Alpha Centauri, alternatively you could check my summary. but it's still not relevant.

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4.How old are you ?
Again not relevant, in regard to atheism.

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5.Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife) ? If no , can you explain why ?
I'm an Aafterlifeist

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6.Did you read all the Bible ? If you read all the bible what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...) ?
Yes, and studied several different language version for comparison including Latin.

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7.Did you read all the Quran ? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran).
Yes, and studied an Arabic version for comparison.

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8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ?
Yes, the Vedas.

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9.What are yours hobbies ?
Not relevant to atheism.

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10.Can you define the goal of the life ?
Demonstrate there is a goal?

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11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist.
Never!

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12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ?
Don't know, there could be a god hidden under a rock somewhere in the universe, I have no way of checking. So the only honest answer is I don't know. 
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13.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ?
I feel sorry for them, living the life's with blinkers on. I wonder why they cling to a belief they have no evidence for.

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14.What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions ?
Exactly the same as monotheistic believers.

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15.What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s) ?
I feel sorry for anybody that follows a doctrine, that has no evidence in reality. Because people try to enforce there doctrine onto others.

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16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Can you explain why ?
Only to the extent that you are debating god which is a philosophical debate, but sadly philosophy can never find a truth it can only have an opinion.

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17.Do you fear to dead ? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...).
No, but I do fear dying,  death by definition is the end of existence so I would not be able to experience fear. Were you fearful of the time before you were born?

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18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason.
Yes, I have a very good life, I have a wonderful family and friends and I spend my time helping others what could be better.

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19.Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions ? If yes or no explain please.
It would be preferable as there has never been anything like religion that is more pernicious and evil.

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20.Do you think that politic is like religion ? Explain why this is not equal or not.
Republicanism, Democratism, Communism, Fascism, are all related ideologies to religion, some however are more pernicious and evil then others. 
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Betelnut on May 03, 2013, 06:16:09 PM
1. Why are you atheist ?
I realized at a young age that god-belief was nonsense.  Both of my parents are atheists but they never tried to influence their children too much one way or another except we didn’t go to church and we watched a lot of science documentaries, had a lot of discussions about science and, generally, were raised to be bullshit detectors.  My middle sister is a theist (of the “God is love” Christianity).  My other sister is atheist also.

2.How are you became atheist ?
Born and raised, I guess but also because I was raised to think for myself.  I never learned to believe in gods at my mother’s knee so to speak.

3.Where are you from ?
Native born Texan.

4.How old are you ?
51

5.Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife) ? If no , can you explain why ?  No, it is not logical.  “Life after death” is an oxymoron of the highest order.  Nature doesn’t work that way.  We are born to reproduce and die.  We are biological beasts.

6.Did you read all the Bible ? If you read all the bible what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...) ?  No.  I’ve tried, I’ve tried, but no.  It is just too, too tedious.

7.Did you read all the Quran ? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran). No.

8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ?
No.

9.What are yours hobbies ?
Reading, playing music, raising my child, travel.

10.Can you define the goal of the life ?
Um.  Not really.  For me, the goal is to enjoy it as fully as I can.  I am lucky as in I am able to do this—I was born to educated people in the US where, as a female, I was allowed to become educated and to have a career.  For a lot of people, if not most, life is sheer hell on Earth.

I will say that one thing that I think makes life worth living is art, literature, and appreciation of nature and the good in other people.  Reading a great book, seeing an amazing movie or play, looking at a painting by Van Gogh; these are the things that give me pleasure and make me think that mankind isn't all bad.


11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist.
No.  I am positive that there is no hell or gods.  I never worry about my afterlife—just what will happen to my child if I were to die before she is an adult (I might be 51 but I adopted a little girl at age 45).  I worry about her life if I were to die.  Plus, hell is on Earth for many people.

12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ?
No.  Never.  It is not logical, there is no evidence, and science has done a good job explaining most of the mysteries that spawned the creation of religions in the first place.

13.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ?
I know most of them are logical in every other aspect of their lives except in this one.  I find it incredible that so many people still believe in this bullshit.  It is truly mind boggling to me.  I don’t think they are stupid as I know a lot of lovely, even intelligent, people who are theists.  I feel that they must have major cognitive dissonance and chose to not examine their beliefs about god in any logical way.  Wishful thinking on their parts mostly.

14.What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions ?
Same as 13

15.What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s) ?
I don’t know how that is possible. I attend a Unitarian Universalist church which a lot of people would say fits into the category that you mention.  But UU’s don’t “believe in a religion.”  There is not doctrine/dogma and, basically, it is a group of people that form a community around thinking about the big issues and trying to figure out life.  Some UUs are theists but a lot aren’t.

16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Can you explain why ?
 Sure.  At my age, I feel like I’ve figured out how I think/feel about life but I am always willing to learn more.  That’s one reason I go the UU church. 

17.Do you fear to dead ? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...).  I fear dying in a painful and scary way such as by being murdered, in a plane crash, etc.  That is, I fear the fear that I will have.  I don’t fear BEING dead since it will be like not being born.  I do worry about my child and how she would react to me not being around if I were to die before she is an adult which isn’t for another 20 years or so.

18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason. 
I like most aspects of my life.  I have issues with my weight and I wish I was better with handling money and I wish the US wasn’t so fucked up politically, but, in general, I’m satisfied and I know how lucky I am to have a great job, a kid and brains.

19.Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions ? If yes or no explain please.

That would be awesome but nothing that I can make happen.  Religion and superstitious belief in general is dangerous and, to be blunt, ignorant.  I wish we could eradicate it.  It would be very nice to not have to see commercials for “The Long Island Medium” or “Ghost Chasers” for one thing!

20.Do you think that politic is like religion ? Explain why this is not equal or not.
Uh?  No.  Politics is not a system of belief—it is more the way people behave.  Any time you have a group of people together trying to work together to get something done, you have politics.  My library has politics out the wazoo because there are different groups of people with differing concerns. 
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Nam on May 03, 2013, 06:22:17 PM
Eh, questionaire at least shows he's interested in what we think and why. Whilst quite basic, at least it offers some information and a starting point. Rather than jumping in with basless assumptions as many prefer to do. I thought it was kinda refreshing to be asked what I think. ;)

It'd be better if they came in and answered the same questions they pose to us. Other than that, it just seems like they're doing an assignment for some class, whether the class is real or just in their mind.

-Nam
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: The Gawd on May 03, 2013, 06:27:37 PM
1.Why are you atheist ?

> Its the default setting and I see no evidence that supports theism

2.How are you became atheist ?

> I started using my brain on my observations, using logic/reason, and paying attention to science

3.Where are you from ?

>Chicago

4.How old are you ?

>31 years or 25 lol

5.Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife) ? If no , can you explain why ?

> No. because there is no evidence for it

6.Did you read all the Bible ? If you read all the bible what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...) ?

> Yes. Protestant... KJV and NIV

7.Did you read all the Quran ? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran).

> Ive read a little as I have several muslim friends

8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ?

>Greek mythology and other myths... a little of everything

9.What are yours hobbies ?

> Stand up comedy, sports (especially High School Football), music, food...

10.Can you define the goal of the life ?

> I can only determine my OWN goal in life as there is no overall goal or purpose for life other than what we give it

11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist.

> No. Until some evidence surfaces for the "god" and his "hell" I laugh at the notion

12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ?

> Nope.

13.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ?

> Theyre not thinking things through. I also dont think the vast majority are believers based on their actions

14.What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions ?

> to vague, too many different ones to generalize

15.What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s) ?

>depends on what they believe

16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Can you explain why ?

> I dont think there are philosophical answers to life. I prefer sociology, politics, psychology, etc

17.Do you fear to dead ? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...).

> I dont want to die, but I dont fear it... perhaps how itll happen

18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason.

> Love it.

19.Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions ? If yes or no explain please.

> As long as they try to intervene in peoples lives that dont believe I wish theyd disappear

20.Do you think that politic is like religion ? Explain why this is not equal or not.

> Somewhat, but not completely. Politics still tends to deal in a set of information. Religion doesnt.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Nick on May 03, 2013, 06:54:08 PM
20 questions?  Can you narrow it down to 3 or less.  I've got a short attention span. ;)
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Graybeard on May 03, 2013, 07:47:37 PM

1.Why are you atheist ? I was born an atheist

2.How are you became atheist ? I was born an atheist

3.Where are you from ? UK

4.How old are you ? over 60

5.Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife) ? If no , can you explain why ? When you are dead, you are dead, and that is it - how is it possible to "live" after death. How many dead people have spoken to you who have told you what it's like to be dead?

6.Did you read all the Bible ? If you read all the bible what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...) ?Yes, but I skipped the genealogies

7.Did you read all the Quran ? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran).I tried but it is garbage and unreadable

8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ? Hundreds of myths from other religions - usually in the form of folk tales and fairy stories.

9.What are yours hobbies ?

10.Can you define the goal of the life ? To reproduce - just like every other living thing on the planet

11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist. No, never, I don't believe in fairy-tales. And if you are worried, you won't go to hell either.

12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ? No, it is impossible

13.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ? Unintelligent

14.What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions ? Unintelligent

15.What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s) ? What???!!!

16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Can you explain why ? I have no real interest in them, they are all wrong and lies told by fools to greater fools.
17.Do you fear to dead ? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...). I will be disappointed that I did not live longer but then, we all will be.

18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason. It's OK

19.Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions ? If yes or no explain please. No, there will always be gullible idiots roaming the planet - I can do nothing about it, though I try.

20.Do you think that politic is like religion ? Explain why this is not equal or not. Yes, it is a power game - politicians say they will make you life better now, priests say they will make you life better when you die.

Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: sun_king on May 03, 2013, 10:17:39 PM
1.Why are you atheist ?
Yet to see evidence of Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva et. al

2.How are you became atheist ?
Old school logical thinking, which allows me to think of a possibility that none of the gods in the thousands of religions need to exist for this world to function.

3.Where are you from ?
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTe78WrAznNwNis7p64MkXM9McOPRjFrXvoFdmK_ORNJFKaUSIp-Q)

4.How old are you ?
42

5.Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife) ? If no , can you explain why ?
Nopes. It's that evidence thingy. I don't think electrical fuses, light bulbs and brake pads have an afterlife either.

6.Did you read all the Bible ? If you read all the bible what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...) ?
Unfortunately yes. Several variants, in two different languages. The Skeptic's Annotated Bible was the best among them.

7.Did you read all the Quran ? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran).
Partially. I have no intention to learn Arabic, I just can't figure myself reading from right to left.

8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ?
All of the Hindu texts, courtesy of me being born as a Hindu.

9.What are yours hobbies ?
Reading, sketching, RTS games, driving.

10.Can you define the goal of the life ?
For me it will be to live a good life.

11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist.
No. If I do, I have lied about question #1& #2, right? Nice try

12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ?
I retract the "Nice Try" from question #11.

13.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ?
Whatever floats their boats...

14.What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions ?
Do you know what a gross ignoramus is? 144 times worse than an ordinary ignoramus, numbers make it funny.

15.What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s) ?
They could do just the same or better if they didn't believe at all.

16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Can you explain why ?
Nopes, I don't worry about it at all. I live quite happily without knowing the "answer", I'd settle for more practical stuff, like knowing why the bread falls with the butter side down.

17.Do you fear to dead ? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...).
Fear of death? No, though I am hoping I would live another 20 more years.

18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason.
Yes I do. I have almost everything that would make me happy and contend. I am terribly unhappy about the life in other parts of the world, too much suffering and cruelty

19.Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions ? If yes or no explain please.
I dream to live in a world where there are only non violent religions. Note: It is redundant to instruct "If yes or No explain", just "explain" would suffice in most cases.

20.Do you think that politic is like religion ? Explain why this is not equal or not.
No. Politics is about control and who will control. In religion, the religion is already in control and they just find ways to stay in control.

I hope you would have the courtesy to put in a summary about your assessment of our answers.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Astreja on May 04, 2013, 12:34:14 AM
1.Why are you atheist ?
I've never seen any convincing evidence, and the powers given to gods don't match up with reality as I know it.

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2.How are you became atheist ?
I've never had a deep and unshakable belief in any deity from any religious tradition, and although I was nominally Christian (christened at age of 3 months) I lived in a non-churchgoing household where no one really talked about religion.

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3.Where are you from ?
Canada.

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4.How old are you ?
55 years old.

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5.Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife) ? If no , can you explain why ?
No, I do not believe in the afterlife.  I believe that our minds are wholly dependent upon our physical brains, and that there is no "soul" that persists after the death of the body.

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6.Did you read all the Bible ? If you read all the bible what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...) ?
I've skimmed the whole thing (initially an illustrated Bible, then the King James version, then a Catholic Bible) and know all the major stories, but have never read the whole thing from start to finish.

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7.Did you read all the Quran ? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran).
I've glanced at a few suras but not read any of them in their entirety.

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8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ?
Poetic Edda (primary Ásatrú text) in its entirety; some of the Bhagavad Gita; most of the  Enûma Eliš; Dhammapada, Prajna Paramita Hridaya Sutra and Daodejing in their entirety; and sections of the Lotus Sutra and assorted other Buddhist writings.

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9.What are yours hobbies ?
Music, writing, art, gardening and meadmaking.

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10.Can you define the goal of the life ?
Entirely subjective and personal.  My goal is to create things and attempt to experience life with as much focus and attention as possible.

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11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist.
Not worried about this. If gods do exist, I trust that they wouldn't be that evil as to create such a place.

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12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ?
I think it's a possibility, but a very remote possibility, and that there's no way to determine accurately if something really is a god.

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13.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ?
Seems like a boring and overly controlling way to live.

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14.What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions ?
By and large I think polytheists are a lot more fun and open-minded than monotheists, and I think they have far better stories about their gods.

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15.What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s) ?
I think of those more as philosophies than religions.  I don't think religious ceremonies are necessary to practice these philosophies, and that they often get in the way.

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16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Can you explain why ?
I used to be interested in philosophy but I really don't need "answers" because I'm busy with life itself.

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17.Do you fear to dead ? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...).
The idea of dying is unpleasant, but the idea of being dead doesn't have much emotional impact on me at all.    I've lost family members, and once the initial shock is over I find it relatively easy to let go.

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18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason.
I like My life very much, particularly when I'm rehearsing, performing or listening to music, or when I'm writing a story or essay, and frequently at work.  Anything that focuses My attention and causes the rest of the world to fade into the background I find worthwhile and exciting.

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19.Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions ? If yes or no explain please.
I'm not that interested in removing all religion from the world, because a great deal of the world's culture has religious elements (for example, the work of J.S. Bach or Michelangelo).  I would like to see church profits taxed, and I would like there to be a minimum age for church attendance (at least in the teenage years).  I also think it's a complete waste of time to try to eliminate religions, because people will just invent new ones.

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20.Do you think that politic is like religion ? Explain why this is not equal or not.
There is a similarity.  Any large religious organization will tend to have levels of internal government arranged in a hierarchy, and a political party generally has an established set of socioeconomic principles which is its "bible."
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Jontom10 on May 04, 2013, 06:42:55 AM
1.Why are you atheist ?

Like every human on the planet I was born an atheist. I was not indoctrinated as a child and as I am capable of reason I cannot see any reason to believe in a God nor can I see any reason why anyone else still believes other than brainwashing and ignorance.

2.How are you became atheist ?

The correct question would be "If not always an atheist, how did you become an atheist".

I will always remain atheist.

3.Where are you from ?

England

4.How old are you ?

It has been 44 years since I was born. But the material I am made up off is essentially 14.2 billion years+ old.

5.Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife) ? If no , can you explain why ?

No. Why? Because there isn't one. There is no evidence of one. The whole idea of one is utterly stupid and is only believed in by people who are brainwashed and ignorant.

6.Did you read all the Bible ? If you read all the bible what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...) ?

I have read the King James bible. Well 80% of it. So much of person begets person etc. I tend to use references if I need to flick through now.

7.Did you read all the Quran ? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran).

I have read a lot of bits of it. Hard work and utter drivel.

8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ?

All sorts. I have read on a lot of various religions and cults as I find the frailty of the human mind and its inability to prevent mental damage like religion interesting.

9.What are yours hobbies ?

When not entertaining my daughter and girlfriend I spend most of my time reading, socialising with friends or playing games.

10.Can you define the goal of the life ?

To exist. The only purpose of life is to procreate and exist. Unless you realise that the ONLY reason you are here on this planet is to procreate then life can seem very confusing. You grow up, become a functioning member of the community. Meet a partner, create children and then raise those children to take their place within the community to begin the cycle again. The purpose of life is to live. As sentient beings we can also have some fun and games on the way.

11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist.

Which Hell or which God ? If we assume the biblical God Yahweh (which is just a very minor god of war from the original Babylonian pantheon of gods) then I won't go to Hell as I live my life as a good person. I have certainly met some seriously nasty downright evil christians who are 100% sure they are going to Heaven.

12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ?

No.

13.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ?

They are idiots

14.What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions ?

They are idiots

15.What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s) ?

Wouldn't be a religion then would it? This would be more like a cult and they are all fkin idiots.

16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Can you explain why ?

Yes. Because I am a self aware sentient being and will always have questions about what I do not understand.

17.Do you fear to dead ? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...).

I do not fear death. I fear dying.

18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason.

I like some aspects and dislike others. Product of society.

19.Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions ? If yes or no explain please.

Yes. The world without religion will only go forward in leaps and bounds as millions of people free their minds from the shackles of thousands of years of tyranny and lies.

20.Do you think that politic is like religion ? Explain why this is not equal or not.

Not but religions certainly like to think they can influence politics.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Star Stuff on May 04, 2013, 09:24:26 AM
1. Why are you an atheist?

For the same reason that I am an a-unicornist.





2. How did you become an atheist?

Like you, and everybody else who has ever lived on this planet, I was born an atheist.  The ideas of a god were instilled into my unformed mind, and given the propensity for children to believe their parents, I didn't stand a chance but to believe it.  Once indoctrinated, few have the courage and intellectual honesty to place these supernatural beliefs under scrutiny.





3. Where are you from ?

Not germain to the conversation.





4. How old are you ?

Not germain to the conversation.





5. Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife)? If no, can you explain why?

No, because there is no good evidence or reason to hold such beliefs.  It is wishful thinking.





6. Did you read all of the Bible? If you read all the bible, what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...)?

Yes; born & raised in a christian home.  Numerous "versions" of the silly book.





7. Did you read all the Quran? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran).

No. It's a repulsive book. Why would I?

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/





8. Did you read any other religious text? If yes what is it or what are they?

Smatterings.  All are based in pre-scientific ignorance and superstition.





9. What are yours hobbies?

Not germain to the conversation.





10. Can you define the goal of life?

There isn't one.  Each person must decide upon their own goals and what gives their life meaning.  Accepting responsibility for one's life is a good foundation.  Without that, one is set-up for all kinds of deleterious beliefs & behaviour.





11. Sometimes do you think:  "I will go in Hell if god does exist."

I used to - when I was a child and indoctrinated with such bankrupt, fearful and stunted thinking.  But now that I have cast off those impoverished beliefs, I see the world in naturalistic terms, not supernatural.




12. Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe?

No.  I am completely open to accepting that should any good evidence or reason arise, but to date there is none.





13. What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions?

Victims of childhood indoctrination.





14. What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions?

Victims of childhood indoctrination.

I'm a poly-atheist; there's lots of gods I don't believe in.





15. What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s)?

By definition, a religion has god-belief at its core.





16. Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about life? Can you explain why?

Your question makes no sense. Answers?  The correct "answer" is that we are here thanks to biochemistry and evolution.





17. Do you fear to be dead? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...).

If you mean:  "do I fear death"?, then I would say that just like any other creature, I prefer to stay alive.  Death is inevitable though, and I know it will come one day, but I love and appreciate experiencing life so much that I hope to have as many years as possible.  I think that I, like most people, fear pain & suffering towards the end.





18. Do you like your life?  If you like your life, why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason.

Yes, very much.  I have good, satisfying work, good health, and someone to love.





19. Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions?  If yes or no, please explain.

That is worded very poorly, and could be taken in different ways.  I hope that humanity will eventually shake off primitive, ignorant, superstitious beliefs (aka: religions).




20. Do you think that politic is like religion?  Explain why this is not equal or not.

In one sense:

In science it often happens that scientists say, “You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken”, and then they actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it, it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that has happened in politics or religion.  (Carl Sagan) 
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Willie on May 05, 2013, 12:19:20 AM
1.Why are you atheist ? I've seen no compelling evidence for the existence of any gods.

2.How are you became atheist ? I was raised very religious. My father was a Pentecostal preacher. But in later childhood I started noticing how people around me, including my parents, would sometimes deceive themselves into believing things that were not true. This led to me questioning the entire belief system. It turns out that it does not hold up well to honest questioning.

3.Where are you from ? Hmm... A simple yet inscrutable question. How specific? What exactly do you mean by "from"? Here's a stab it it: Texas, USA.

4.How old are you ? 47

5.Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife) ? If no , can you explain why ? No. I've seen no compelling evidence for it.

6.Did you read all the Bible ? If you read all the bible what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...) ? No, not all of it.

7.Did you read all the Quran ? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran). No. I have a copy (in english), but have not read it.

8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ? Yes. Jack Chick comics and miscellaneous issues of Awake! and Watchtower left in laundromats, commuter trains, and busses

9.What are yours hobbies ? Mostly wasting time on the Internet. But I also occasionally like to make things. Wooden things, electronic things, computer programs, whatever.

10.Can you define the goal of the life ? My goal is to live my life in a way that makes the world a little better, even if only slightly.

11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist. No. I do not worry about God sending me to hell any more than I worry about Zeus striking me with lightning. It is all mythology.

12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ? No. The idea is not only without evidence, but it is quite absurd. This is not to say that I would not be open to hard evidence, but I see no reason to suspect that there is any, so I also see no reason to actively pursue the question. I am not "seeking". I have no interest in reading whatever apologist book or web site that some believer thinks is some profound new insight, but invariably turns out to be a re-packaging of the same old invalid arguments. Been there. Done that. Sick of it.

13.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ? Insofar as their religious beliefs, I think that they are deceiving themselves into believing things that are not true. Outside of that, they are too varied to judge as a group, but must be considered individually. They can be smart or stupid, cruel or kind, honest or crooked, etc.

14.What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions ? Same as #13

15.What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s) ? If by "religion" you mean something that involves belief in the supernatural, and belief held on faith rather than reason, then same answer as #13 and #14. If you have in mind something that doesn't have those elements, then I don't think it can be properly called a religion.

16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Can you explain why ? Not much. I do like to have answers, but if an "answer" is not grounded in reason and evidence, then I reject it and accept that the question remains unanswered. Better honest ignorance than pretend knowledge.

17.Do you fear to dead ? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...). Yes. I love life. I do not want to die. The thought of myself or someone I care about dying scares me.

18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason. Despite all the ways that things are not the way I want them to be, and despite all of the hard times I've had to endure, I love my life. I love my family, my friends, and this whole wonderful universe. The chance that any one of us would exist at all, and have a chance to perceive and comprehend this magnificent universe, even if in a very limited way, is vanishingly small. Just to be alive is far better than any lottery win. And to have been born into a time when so much has been discovered and understood by those before me is almost unbelievably good fortune. Almost. Because here I am. My atoms were born in the nuclear furnace of long-dead stars, and, against literally astronomical odds, have come together for a while to become me. Carl Sagan said that "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself". That we are. What could possibly be more profound, strange, and wonderful, than that?

19.Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions ? If yes or no explain please. If you mean a world where reason has taken root and religion is widely recognized as superstition and myth, then yes. If you mean a world where religion is forbidden, a world where people are not free to think certain thoughts or express certain ideas, then no, I do not want that kind of world.

20.Do you think that politic is like religion ? Explain why this is not equal or not.
[/quote] No. There are some parallels in the way that people sometimes think about them, but they are fundamentally different things.

Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Chronos on May 05, 2013, 11:46:23 AM
My answers appear in this blueish color

1.Why are you atheist ?  I was born that way, and so were you, btw.

2.How are you became atheist ?  see #1

3.Where are you from ?  United States, Maryland

4.How old are you ?  In my 40s

5.Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife) ?  No
 If no , can you explain why ?  Your question starts with the wrong premise. You presume an afterlife must exist. There is no proof of such. Put the horse back in front of the cart and see where you go.

6.Did you read all the Bible ?  No. Perhaps 90%. All those obituaries and begats are boring.
 If you read all the bible what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...) ?  Biblical canon? If this is a way of asking which religious book I may have read, I find it odd. I was given a King James version of the bible when I entered Bible School (age 5) -- it was what baptists used, at least back then. I still have it.

7.Did you read all the Quran ? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran).
No. Muslims insist that one must have a perfect ability to read Arabic to understand the Quran, and since I don't, and since my own bible is completely uninteresting, I have no care to read someone else's bible.

8.Did you read an other religious text ? I've read texts about religion, but not religious texts (see above).
If yes what is it or what are they ? Critical, logical analyses of religion and it's fallibility and failures. The book attached to this website as a starting point ...

9.What are yours hobbies ? Answering questions posed by theists. I need to upgrade my hobbies.

10.Can you define the goal of the life ?  My life? Your life? Human life in general?

11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist.  Do I sometimes think that you will go to hell if god exists? No. I don't know you. I don't believe in god or hell.

12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ? Define "god" and then we'll talk more.

13.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ?  They are more focused than those who believe in polytheistic religions.

14.What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions ?  They have attention deficit disorders.

15.What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s) ?  They most often are engaged in selling books, exercise machines and diet programs.

16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Life in general? Philosophy cannot answer questions about life in general. That subject is, well, too general.

Can you explain why ?  I do not understand this question

17.Do you fear to dead ? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...).
I don't fear dying. I do have concerns about the quality of my life leading up to my death. I worry about what I accomplish while I am here.

18.Do you like your life ? I guess I do. I haven't had another one with which to compare.
 If you like your life , why do you like your life. Ummm, see above.
 If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason. Not sure what concern to you my life is or isn't.

19.Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions ? If yes or no explain please.
I dream to live in a world in which people do not place mystical context upon every occurrence that seems inexplicable to them.

20.Do you think that politic is like religion ? Explain why this is not equal or not.  Religion is like sales and marketing; politics are like management and compromise. The two are not directly compatible. Sometimes their paths cross, but only on the way to different destinations.



Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: magicmiles on May 05, 2013, 06:12:23 PM

I hope you don't mind a Christian answering. I'll only answer the relevant questions.

3.Where are you from ? - Born in Adelaide, Australia and have lived in a few places since then. I currently live in Brisbane, Australia

4.How old are you ? I turn 40 in November this year.

6.Did you read all the Bible ?  Yes
7.Did you read all the Quran ? None of it.

8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ? A few Christian commentaries, some Christian apologetics books. C.S. Lewis. Josh McDowell.

9.What are yours hobbies ? Outdoors stuff. Cycling, running, getting in the car and exploring.

10.Can you define the goal of the life ? My goal is to honour God firstly, and to be a good and wise husband and father.

16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Can you explain why ? Not especially, apart from recognising that life definitely consists of more than we can experience tangibly

18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason. Yes, for the most part. I have constant frustrations to do with parenting, and I struggle to motivate myself at work. But I recognise that I'm extremely blessed to have two children and to have a job that I don't hate



Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Traveler on May 06, 2013, 02:22:53 AM
1.Why are you atheist ?

An atheist is someone who doesn't believe in god(s). I don't have a god belief. Never have. There is no why. Why are you an a-Santa Claus-ist? The idea of the Abrahamic god(s) simply seems absurd to me.

2.How are you became atheist ?

I've never believed in god.

3.Where are you from ?

US

4.How old are you ?

Much older than you.  ;D

5.Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife) ? If no , can you explain why ?

No. I see no reason to believe that anything happens after our physical processes cease.

6.Did you read all the Bible ? If you read all the bible what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...) ?

No. I've read many parts of it, a very long time ago. I have no interest in reading it again. I don't recall the version. Probably the King James or something like it.

7.Did you read all the Quran ? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran).

No.

8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ?

I've read a little bit by a Buddhist nun. Nothing official.

9.What are yours hobbies ?

fantasy roleplaying, dogs, arts and crafts

10.Can you define the goal of the life ?

My personal goal is to seek to be the very best, kindest, successful and creative person that I can possibly be. Happiness, joy, sharing ... these are all goals. I don't think about an ultimate goal of life for all of us. We live, we die. What's in between is up to us.

11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist.

No. Hell is an absurd concept.

12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ?

No. God is an absurd concept.

13.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ?

I think they're wrong.

14.What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions ?

I think they're wrong.

15.What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s) ?

Not sure what you mean here. You mean like atheistic Buddhists or Unitarians?

16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Can you explain why ?

Sure. Philosophy is an interesting pursuit, although these days I much prefer to actually do something, rather than ponder something.

17.Do you fear to dead ? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...).

Not at all. I will simply cease to be.

18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason.

Yes. I am pursuing a second career in the arts. I love my work, and have many, many great memories of the things I've done in my life so far.

19.Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions ? If yes or no explain please.

I dream of a world with no hatred, no war, no rape, no murder, no fear. Whether others believe in supernatural things doesn't matter to me if (and only if) they live peacefully with others.

20.Do you think that politic is like religion ? Explain why this is not equal or not.

Not sure what you mean here. I believe that politics and religion can both be great forces for evil because they give people the illusion that they have power over others. Once people believe that, they are capable of terrible things.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Add Homonym on May 06, 2013, 02:53:16 AM
7.Did you read all the Quran ? None of it.

You should read the Quran. Then you would be imbued with that comfortable sense that 2 billion people believe in something which is obviously just made up. It helps develop your sense of outsider muscles.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: magicmiles on May 06, 2013, 03:05:16 AM
7.Did you read all the Quran ? None of it.

You should read the Quran. Then you would be imbued with that comfortable sense that 2 billion people believe in something which is obviously just made up. It helps develop your sense of outsider muscles.

I'm a Christian in Australia. Those muscles are just fine.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: bertatberts on May 06, 2013, 04:19:34 AM
Magicmiles: you have question ten back to front, you should always put you wife and children first, If not then it is dangerous for your family to be anywhere near you.

We once had someone say the very same and he was willing to kill his family on the order of god/jesus.

Your priorities are completely wrong.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: magicmiles on May 06, 2013, 04:41:34 AM
They're in no danger Bert. Thanks for your concern.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: grant on May 06, 2013, 06:05:47 AM
They most certainly are if you put god above them.

Or do you recognise that no situation would ever need you to make the choice?
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Fiji on May 06, 2013, 06:09:55 AM
1.Why are you atheist ?
No proof whatsoever for any of the thousands of gods
2.How are you became atheist ?
Gruadual process starting at the age of 5. I was raised catholic, mind, and that's a fairly easy one to spot the insanity.
3.Where are you from ?
Belgium, near Mechelen/Malines
4.How old are you ?
too (38)
5.Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife) ? If no , can you explain why ?
Nope, everything we know about human personality is that it's linked to the brain, when the brain dies, the person dies. The End.
6.Did you read all the Bible ? If you read all the bible what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...) ?
No, only bits and pieces
7.Did you read all the Quran ? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran).
I know the Quran says that it should only be read in Arab ... which is just one of the umpteen ad hoc rationalizations Muhammed pulled out of his ass when cornered. So, regardsless of what Muslims say, yes, I've read the Quran, cover to cover, in perfectly clear Dutch.
8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ?
The Iliad
9.What are yours hobbies ?
Reading, scifi, fantasy and science mostly. Computer games, strategy, footy, management. Writing, when I get the time. Metal ... lots and lots of Metal \m/
10.Can you define the goal of the life ?
To do right by my kids and give them every opportunity. (If you'd asked me this 10 years ago, the answer would have been different
11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist.
As a phylosophical contemplation, yes. I'm sure that I've done wrong in the hypothetical eyes of quite a fow of the thousands of gods postulated and if any of them are real (and if they have a hell to go to) sure, I'm headed there ... good thing they're not real. ;)
12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ?
Sure, it's entirely possible that some sort of god shows him/her/itself today ... so far however, no proof whatsoever.
13.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ?
The vast majority can't help that they believe what they believe. It was spoonfed to them as a child and they never thought about it. As a group ... some are ok, some are utterly insane monsters ... but then again, the same can be said for just about any group of people. Except maybe lawyers ... those are ALL utterly insane monsters ;)
14.What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions ?
Same as above, the details of the fairy tale they believe don't matter.
15.What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s) ?
Again, the details don't matter, they still believe stuff that's divorced from reality.
16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Can you explain why ?
42, the answer to life, the universe and everything. In truth, the meaning of life is different for every person, or indeed, every living organism. So, Douglas Adams' view is as valid as that of some prince who sat under a tree for a month or whatever. So, no, I'm not overly concerned with anyone else's views.
17.Do you fear to dead ? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...).
Yes, or to put it another way, I like being alive and would prefer to stay so for quite a few decades yet.
18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason.
Have had a bit of a string of bad luck of late, so things could be better, still, they could be vastly worse, so all in all, I like my life, yes.
Why do I like it, I'm reasonably comfy and have awesome kids ... they're a bit of a recurring theme, what.
19.Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions ? If yes or no explain please.
Hell no! The way you word it, it would mean a world where religion is forbidden. People can believe whatever they damn well please, as far as I'm concerned, it's when they start basing their actions on the insane shit that I have an issue with them.
20.Do you think that politic is like religion ? Explain why this is not equal or not.
There are similarities, people will often stick to their political leaning despite everything. And when someone switches allegiance a lot of the same vocabulary is used. Though people will more readily change politics than religion. 
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: magicmiles on May 06, 2013, 06:22:41 AM
They most certainly are if you put god above them.

Or do you recognise that no situation would ever need you to make the choice?

I certainly can't imagine one.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Quesi on May 06, 2013, 07:40:18 AM
1.Why are you atheist ?

Well, I was raised in a secular humanist family.  Throughout my adulthood, I studied and flirted with a variety of belief systems.  But when I became a mom, I realized that I really needed to raise my daughter in an environment of rational thought, and strong secular values, and so I returned to claiming the atheist identity.  I don't think I was ever really not an atheist, but I sort of abandoned the title and the self-identity. My daughter has several peers who are being raised in secular households, and I think it is important for her to understand that "some people believe xyz" but we believe in the process of scientific discovery. 

More importantly, perhaps, is teaching my daughter that some people are "good" because they are afraid that they will be punished by their god (or their parents, or whatever) if they are not.  We are "good" because we value life.  There is no afterlife.  This is not a rehearsal for an afterlife.  This is it!  Life is beautiful and precious. We empathize with people in different situations, and we strive to "make the world a better place" by treating people, and the planet and all living things with conscious respect. We aim to reduce suffering when we can, to use only what we need, and to share comfort and joy and resources with others.   

2.How are you became atheist ?

See above.

3.Where are you from ?

NYC, USA

4.How old are you ?

Old enough to consider that a rude question.  

5.Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife) ? If no , can you explain why ?

An afterlife?  No.  Not in the traditional sense. But I find great comfort thinking about the cycles of life, and the fact that the atoms that comprise my body, and everything around me, have existed and will exist in many different forms.  Long after our sun dies its natural death, long after our galaxy completes its collision course with our neighboring galaxy, a part of what makes up "me" will continue to exist, in forms and places and realities that I cannot even begin to imagine.  I get all gushy every time I hear Neil Degrasse Tyson do his "the universe is in us" monologue.    http://youtu.be/0azoN7t3UhM



6.Did you read all the Bible ? If you read all the bible what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...) ?

Many years ago I spent a week in a hammock on an idyllic Mexican beach, drinking beers and reading the Bible. But I do not pretend to know the scriptures as well as many members here. 

7.Did you read all the Quran ? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran).

I’ve read large parts of it.  English translation.  Other than the fact that the translation is stilted, and not as poetic as English translations of the various scriptures, I find it to be rather indistinguishable from the Old Testament.  More details about Noah, more rules about how to treat guests and visitors, more rules about lines of inheritance.  But pretty much the same stuff.   

8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ?
Oh my yes.  My daughter is ethnically Mayan, and I’m a fan of the Popul Vuh, which contains the Mayan creation stories.  I’ve tried some of the Hindu stuff, and quite frankly, my poor western mind can’t wrap around the “therefores.”  Also, never really managed to “get” Buddhism.  Really liked a lot of the earth-based paganism, in which the equinoxes and the solstices and the crosspoints between them are the holidays to celebrate.  And of course the Roman and Greek creation stories.   

9.What are yours hobbies ?

Oh my.  Pre-parenthood, I liked to shoot pool, SCUBA dive, travel, camp, and unbeknownst to most of my friends, I was in fact, a middle aged lady gamer.

These days my hobbies include playdates with 6 year olds, museum trips, zoo trips, preparation for attending ballet and piano recitals, chess tournaments, and whatever activities my daughter is drawn to at the moment.  An evening in a restaurant with other adults, and the opportunity to drink a cocktail while children entertain themselves doing art work is my big special treat.  And then I come to forums for a little adult conversation.   

10.Can you define the goal of the life ?
Goal?  There are as many goals as there are individuals.  For most of humanity, the goals involve finding food and clean water, keeping children healthy and safe.  For those of us who have the luxury of literacy, an abundance of food, and the wildly extravagant luxury of “free time” to think and learn and question, the goals become more complex.  I guess for me, my personal goal is to strive for a world in which more of us enjoy the luxuries of literacy and free time and safety.   

11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist.

Absolutely not.   

12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ?

I cannot say with absolute certainty that there was not some force (or even consciousness) that created or manipulated life or even the universe as we know it.  There is so much that we do not know.  But I can say with absolute certainty that the god of monotheism does not exist.   

(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/p480x480/551315_650154648347325_1155312879_n.jpg)

Of course, we are left with the question, if something created us, what created the creator?

13.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ?
What do I think about them?  I don’t know.  I like most monotheists just fine. People who hear their god’s voices, or feel the need to push their interpretation of their god on my or other people scare me and piss me off.   

14.What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions ?
Again, not really sure how to answer this question.  I really like most people.  I believe that most people strive to live good lives, and I like polytheists just fine.   

15.What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s) ?
Same as previous two answers.   

16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Can you explain why ?

I am interested in various branches of philosophy, including ethics and logic.  Asking "why" is something we should never stop doing.  

17.Do you fear to dead ? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...).
I don’t so much fear it.  I do kind of dread it.  In the way I dreaded bedtime as a kid.  I love life, and there is so much to do and see and learn, and I will be sad when I approach the end.  I mourn the death of my loved ones because I miss them, and because I know that they also loved life, and had so much more that they could have contributed if they had lived longer.   

18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason.
I love life!  All life is precious, and I am fortunate to have been born into a time and place in which I enjoy privileges that most of humanity has not enjoyed.  I strive to not squander the random privileges of my birth, and to help others achieve safety and comfort and happiness too.   

19.Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions ? If yes or no explain please.
Oh, it will be many many generations before religions disappear, and I will not see that world in my lifetime.  And I suspect it will just happen organically with time.  I am more concerned about striving for a world with just distribution of food and resources, and a world in which we do not abuse this beautiful planet.  I dream of a world in which people have access to what they NEED, and the leisure time to think about what they want to envision for the future generations.   

20.Do you think that politic is like religion ? Explain why this is not equal or not.
I fear dogmas that lead to wars and power struggles and xenophobia.  I dislike hierarchical systems in which small minorities vie for power and exploit the masses in their own self-interest.  Both politics and religion share these characteristics.   
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Quesi on May 06, 2013, 08:12:27 AM
I just wanted to add that my daughter has already been told by her first grade peers that you can't be a "good person" if you don't believe in god.  That is simply absurd.  I want my daughter to be "good" not because she fears punishment, but because she empathizes with other people, and because she understands the consequences of her actions. 

Sometimes, making the "right decision" is easy.  Share.  Include the kid who is being left out. Always think about how your actions will impact on other people.  Don't litter, even if no one is looking, because the garbage will either stay there, or someone else will have to pick it up. 

Sometimes, making the "right decision" is hard.  Sometimes there is not an easy answer.  The world is not black and white.  I'm actually really surprised by how many ethical choices a six year old needs to make in a given week.  Do I tell on the kid who did something mean to somebody else?  Do I tell a white lie to protect myself or somebody else?  Do I pursue my passions, or abandon them briefly to help someone in need?  And I am THRILLED that she brings home so many ethical dilemmas to dissect.  Kids want to do the right thing.  They really do.  But if they are not given the tools as children to make ethical decisions, then they will not become ethical adults.   

And the questions will only get more complex as she grows up.  Do I side with the factory, that employs so many members of the community, and provides products that we all enjoy?  Or do I side with the environmentalists, who are concerned about the impact of the pollution?  Do I support freedom of expression, even when the exercise of that freedom causes others pain, and possibly danger?  Am I willing to ask others to make sacrifices that will benefit me and a subset of society to which I belong, possibly at the expense of others? 

I don't want to prescribe answers for my daughter.  I want her to learn how to make her own decisions.  Religion does not provide a framework for the complexities.  It just doesn't.   
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Fiji on May 06, 2013, 08:57:07 AM
^^ Atheist Experience touched on the subject, briefly in a recent episode, don't recall which one, sorry.

My daughter used to come at me with biblical/religious gotchas[1] until she realized that a) I could answer all of them and b) I'd always end with "but what do YOU think".

She has since realized that religion makes perfect sense ... until you actually think about it.
 1. we're an 'unequally yoked' family ;)
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Graybeard on May 06, 2013, 09:56:39 AM
1.Why are you atheist ?

[snip]

20.Do you think that politic is like religion ? Explain why this is not equal or not.

OK viocjit, time for you to answer your own questions.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Petey on May 06, 2013, 10:43:31 AM
1.Why are you atheist ?
Because I'm not a theist.

2.How are you became atheist ?
Learned to think critically.

3.Where are you from ?
Iowa.

4.How old are you ?
37.

5.Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife) ? If no , can you explain why ?
No.  Haven't seen any evidence for it.

6.Did you read all the Bible ? If you read all the bible what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...) ?
Yes, NIV.

7.Did you read all the Quran ? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran).
About 1/3 of it, couldn't stand all the repetition.

8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ?
Tao Te Ching

9.What are yours hobbies ?
Gaming, grilling, and beer.

10.Can you define the goal of the life ?
Yes, but only for myself.

11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist.
For a while after my deconversion, but not anymore.

12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ?
Nope.

13.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ?
A variety of things, but mostly pity.

14.What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions ?
Same as monotheists.

15.What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s) ?
Depends on many factors, from what the religion teaches, to how seriously the believer takes it.

16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Can you explain why ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_WRFJwGsbY (ftp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_WRFJwGsbY)

17.Do you fear to dead ? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...).
In a physical context, yes.  Metaphysical, no.

18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason.
Yes, because it's better than the alternative.

19.Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions ? If yes or no explain please.
Yes.  I would love to see religious instruction replaced with quality education.

20.Do you think that politic is like religion ? Explain why this is not equal or not.
In a sense of putting dogma ahead of research and thinking, yes.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: bertatberts on May 06, 2013, 12:00:17 PM
They're in no danger Bert. Thanks for your concern.
As Grant said there most certainly is, if you put an invisible imaginary concept above your loved ones. It is a very dangerous situation for them to be in. You are like an explosion waiting to go off. You don't deserve the family you have, if you put god before family.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: bertatberts on May 06, 2013, 12:08:06 PM
They most certainly are if you put god above them.

Or do you recognise that no situation would ever need you to make the choice?

I certainly can't imagine one.
I can, If you believed that God/Jesus stood in front of you and expressed there/his wish was that you killed your children, just like Jepthath's You would do it, so as not to incur god's wrath. Your family should always come first.

It always worries me when theists put god before family, they are clearly disconnected from reality.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Star Stuff on May 06, 2013, 12:14:18 PM
Hey, it's what the celestial dictator demands.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: LoriPinkAngel on May 06, 2013, 07:00:09 PM
Another Christian responds...

1.Why are you atheist ?   n/a

2.How are you became atheist ?  n/a

3.Where are you from ?  Nebraska, Germany, South Carolina, New York  (places I lived 2 years or longer)

4.How old are you ?  too close to 50

5.Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife) ? If no , can you explain why ?  yes

6.Did you read all the Bible ? If you read all the bible what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...) ?  yes, several versions-
   Amplified, NIV, Today's English, King James, New King James, The Message, I also try to read in French and Spanish

7.Did you read all the Quran ? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran).  only small translated
   bits               

8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ?  Tao Te Ching, other Bhuddist texts and Hindu texts

9.What are yours hobbies ? music, reading

10.Can you define the goal of the life ? use the talents and skills I have to help others

11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist. no

12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ?  Sometimes I question his existance

3.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ?  It depends on the individual

14.What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions ? see #13

15.What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s) ?  see # 13

16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Can you explain why ?  No, I don't think there is one
      answer that covers the meaning of life.

17.Do you fear to dead ? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...).  No.

18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason.
     No, I have a chronic, painful illness.

19.Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions ? If yes or no explain please.  No, I dream of a world
     where there are no teabaggers.

20.Do you think that politic is like religion ? Explain why this is not equal or not.  It is similar in that the douchebags make everyone
      look bad.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: ParkingPlaces on May 06, 2013, 09:29:44 PM
1.Why are you atheist ?

Because there are no gods. Made up stuff isn't relevant.

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2.How are you became atheist ?

Assuming you mean how old was I, 10 or 11.

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3.Where are you from ?

Born and raised in Oregon, USA. Currently living in Montana, USA

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4.How old are you ?

Almost 62. For awhile earlier this year I thought I was 63. I keep getting ahead of myself.

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5.Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife) ? If no , can you explain why ?

Don't think so. No reason to think that there is one, but if there is, it has nothing to do with any human-defined gods.

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6.Did you read all the Bible ? If you read all the bible what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...) ?

Nope. I've read parts of it. I always end up needing a pain pill because I end up spending so much time shaking my head in disbelief.

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7.Did you read all the Quran ? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran).

Nope, none at all, other than the occasional quote I run across. No interest. I wasn't born in the middle east, hence it wasn't a local phenomena, and I've had no reason to follow it. Knowing more about the religion if/when they kill me for not being them won't help me any, so I won't bother.

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8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ?

I've read a variety of mythologies over the years. None of the other ones are true either.

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9.What are yours hobbies ?

Building stuff, computers, hiking, wishing I was 25 again.

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10.Can you define the goal of the life ?

Procreate probably. Do something to help life along.

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11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist.

Not seriously. And if there is a god that allows an actual hell, he isn't someone I could worship anyway, so if that is the case, I'm sunk either way.

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12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ?

Nope. A real god would be more competent at getting out his story, more involved where involvement made sense, less dependent on old stories, more concerned about clarifying misinformation and less needy in the idolization department.

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13.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ?

That their thoughts of religion are silly.

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14.What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions ?

That their thoughts about religion are two or more times sillier.

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15.What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s) ?

Slightly more tolerable. I'm not in the mood to be that introspectful, so I can't figure out why others are. But at least most of them don't bother learning to fly.

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16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Can you explain why ?

Life has no answers. Imagining it does and dwelling on it can be a bit off-putting. We are biological mechanisms that happen to be slightly more self-aware then worms, and hence we sometimes imagine that our importance, both as individuals and as a species, is higher than it really is. But let me repeat that. There is no meaning to life. Luckily, most of us can find ways to enjoy things anyway. At least I can. As long as I'm not being burned at the stake by others who think they have all the answers. That can be off-putting too.

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17.Do you fear to dead ? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...).

Do I fear death? It isn't on my to-do list, even though it will happen. I don't think that I do. But I haven't come that close to biting the big one lately. The one time I thought I was going to die I was not afraid. I was concerned about what my death would do to others, or how it would cause them to feel. Stuff like that. But the fact that my concerns about others were caused by my thinking I was a goner didn't scare me at all. I hate inconveniencing others.

If you are asking if I fear that others will die or if I fear dead people, I don't like that my loved ones will die (or already have). But I have no control over such things, assuming I am not holding a smoking gun. Do I fear dead people? Nope. They seem harmless enough.

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18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason.

Well, I do wish we got to live twice. So that we could learn all the things a person needs to know the first time around to do is better the second time. But what I want has nothing to do with reality, so I guess I'm out of luck. In the meantime, I'm glad I was me instead of some stranger. That would have been awkward.

I could have done better. I could have done worse. But I'm pretty sure most everyone can say that.

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19.Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions ? If yes or no explain please.

It would have been nice, unless religions were outlawed. I'm not that oppressive a person. I would rather that people came to the conclusion that there are no gods on their own. Otherwise being an atheist has no value.

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20.Do you think that politic is like religion ? Explain why this is not equal or not.

No, politics is like nothing else. The way it is practiced in the west. Where right and wrong are of little importance if you can get the votes. There is less morality in politics than in most religions. Politics is an effort to find a workaround to morality. It would be unfair to compare the two except in the case of extreme religious beliefs (Westboro Baptist Church, radical muslims, stuff like that.)

P.S. If I were religious, I would be thanking god right now for giving us keyboard shortcut software that lets me do quote stuff like I did in the above answer much easier. If I didn't have that, I wouldn't have bothered answering your long post.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Star Stuff on May 06, 2013, 10:14:55 PM
When are we going to hear from the O/P (voicjit)?
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Azdgari on May 06, 2013, 11:05:10 PM
I can, If you believed that God/Jesus stood in front of you and expressed there/his wish was that you killed your children, just like Jepthath's You would do it, so as not to incur god's wrath. Your family should always come first.

Bert, it's only a danger if he's right about his god existing.  Otherwise, there's no such risk.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: magicmiles on May 06, 2013, 11:35:37 PM
They're in no danger Bert. Thanks for your concern.
As Grant said there most certainly is, if you put an invisible imaginary concept above your loved ones. It is a very dangerous situation for them to be in. You are like an explosion waiting to go off. You don't deserve the family you have, if you put god before family.

Whatever. I really don't think the purpose of this thread was debate.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: dloubet on May 06, 2013, 11:44:28 PM
Azdgari wrote:
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Bert, it's only a danger if he's right about his god existing.  Otherwise, there's no such risk.

But if it's just voices in his head, they could demand anything at any time!
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Anfauglir on May 07, 2013, 02:40:09 AM
1.Why are you atheist ?
Because every god or gods or goddess I have investigated has had no evidence behind them.  Same reason I don't believe in Santa, really - no evidence.

3.Where are you from ?

UK
4.How old are you ?

Oh, 40-mumble years old.

5.Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife) ? If no , can you explain why ?
Nope.  See question 1.

6.Did you read all the Bible ? If you read all the bible what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...) ?

Yep.  Couple times.  "I'm not an atheist because I haven't read the Bible, I'm an atheist because I have"

7.Did you read all the Quran ? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran).

Not all the way through yet.

8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ?

Egyptian Book of the Dead, Norse mythology, NAtive American mythology, several more that I can't be bothered to list.

10.Can you define the goal of the life ?
THE life?  Nope.  Different for everyone.

11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist.

Nope.  If I said to you "believe in Odin, or you will go to the Norse hell", would you worry for even one second?

12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ?

Nope.  See question 1.

13.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ?

I think they are, in general, the result of indoctrination during childhood and an unability/unwillingness to examine the evidence for their god, to critique their god in the same way they would any OTHER god.

16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Can you explain why ?

Again, the "Meaning of Life" is different for everyone.

17.Do you fear to dead ? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...).

I fear dying.  I do not fear death.  I am somewhat annoyed that there will be so many things happening after my death that I will not get to see.

18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason.

Yup.  Things are pretty good, thanks.  Some things could be better, but things could be a whole lot worse.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: bertatberts on May 07, 2013, 03:58:17 AM
I can, If you believed that God/Jesus stood in front of you and expressed there/his wish was that you killed your children, just like Jepthath's You would do it, so as not to incur god's wrath. Your family should always come first.

Bert, it's only a danger if he's right about his god existing.  Otherwise, there's no such risk.
No wrong he only has to have belief that it does. I know and you know god doesn't exist.
Do I need to show some links, where people of "Faith" have killed their family member because of there said fantasy.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: bertatberts on May 07, 2013, 03:59:45 AM
They're in no danger Bert. Thanks for your concern.
As Grant said there most certainly is, if you put an invisible imaginary concept above your loved ones. It is a very dangerous situation for them to be in. You are like an explosion waiting to go off. You don't deserve the family you have, if you put god before family.

Whatever. I really don't think the purpose of this thread was debate.
The purpose of all forums and threads is debate.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: jdawg70 on May 07, 2013, 08:31:21 AM
The purpose of all forums and threads is debate.
I'm guessing that there is a moderator for an "I Love Kitty Cats" forum out there somewhere that would disagree with you.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: bertatberts on May 07, 2013, 09:04:30 AM
The purpose of all forums and threads is debate.
I'm guessing that there is a moderator for an "I Love Kitty Cats" forum out there somewhere that would disagree with you.
Then it would be clear, that they don't understand what the term "Forum" actually means.

They should of wrote a blog.

Forum - a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged: OED.


http://www.i-love-cats.com/forums/
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Anfauglir on May 07, 2013, 09:31:29 AM
1.Why are you atheist ?.....(etc)

Viocjit, have the answers helped you at all?  Was there anything in particular that you found epecially useful, or that you want to ask more about?
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: screwtape on May 07, 2013, 09:31:47 AM
1.Why are you atheist ?

god is not a plausible idea and I have found no evidence to suggest any gods exist.

2.How are you became atheist ?

I had questions about god and I read the bible.  I found it to be nothing more than the mythology of a primitive people.

3.Where are you from ?

USA

5.Do you believe in the afterlife? If no , can you explain why ?

No.  I have no evidence it exists.

6.Did you read all the Bible ??

No. all of the OT and about 1/4 of the NT.  The NT is boring and pointless if the OT is a fraud.  And the OT is a fraud, so I found little value in reading the NT.

7.Did you read all the Quran ?
No.  Small parts only.

8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ?

Upanishads. Vedas.  Bhagavad Gita. Tao Te Ching. Various Buddhist texts.

9.What are yours hobbies ?

Cooking.  Gaming.  Arguing with idiots on the internet.

10.Can you define the goal of the life ?

there is no goal of life.

11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist.

No.  Nor do I think "I will be killed if vampires exist."  Nor do I think "I will get no toys if Santa exists."

12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ?

No.

13.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ?

I sometimes think they are idiots.  When I am feeling more compassionate, I think they have fallen victim to a common, socially transferrable, mental virus.

14.What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions ?

Same as above

15.What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s) ?

technically, that is not a religion.

16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Can you explain why ?

not any more. 

17.Do you fear to dead ?

I do not want to die, but I am less afraid of it than I was when I was a xian.

18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason.

yes, but I wish there were fewer religious people and fewer stupid people.

19.Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions ? If yes or no explain please.

yes.  religion cannot exist without magical thinking.  and magical thinking is dangerous.  I would like it if there was no more magical thinking.

20.Do you think that politic is like religion ? Explain why this is not equal or not.

they are alike in that decisions are not made rationally. 
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: jdawg70 on May 07, 2013, 09:36:37 AM
The purpose of all forums and threads is debate.
I'm guessing that there is a moderator for an "I Love Kitty Cats" forum out there somewhere that would disagree with you.
Then it would be clear, that they don't understand what the term "Forum" actually means.

They should of wrote a blog.

Forum - a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged: OED.


http://www.i-love-cats.com/forums/
Fair enough.  If we're taking the hard-lined semantic approach, then I take issue with your use of the words 'thread' and 'debate'.  Message threads have no purpose beyond organization of potentially inter-related messages.  A debate requires opposing viewpoints; a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue being exchanged does not necessarily entail any opposition.

Honestly I don't actually take any issue beyond semantics with you - and even then it's kind of a 'meh' situation.  I see no problem with debates breaking out in this forum, and I see no problem with someone not wanting to debate some topics in a given thread on this forum.  I really just wanted an excuse to type "I Love Kitty Cats".

In any case this line of conversation is highly derailing to this thread.  My apologies to all.  Back to your regularly scheduled program.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: bertatberts on May 07, 2013, 11:19:05 AM
The purpose of all forums and threads is debate.
I'm guessing that there is a moderator for an "I Love Kitty Cats" forum out there somewhere that would disagree with you.
Then it would be clear, that they don't understand what the term "Forum" actually means.

They should of wrote a blog.

Forum - a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged: OED.


http://www.i-love-cats.com/forums/
A debate requires opposing viewpoints; a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue being exchanged does not necessarily entail any opposition.
Fair point but neither does a debate, not in the strictest sense. After all they do class them as formal.

I really just wanted an excuse to type "I Love Kitty Cats".
As do I.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: LoriPinkAngel on May 07, 2013, 12:21:06 PM

They should of wrote a blog.



??
Bold mine.   
I find your superior tone ironic.   ;)
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: bertatberts on May 07, 2013, 01:55:54 PM

They should of wrote a blog.



??
Bold mine.   
I find your superior tone ironic.   ;)
Then you clearly don't understand the terms being discussed. There was no superior tone.  Just a statement of fact.

Questioning somebodies grammar says more about you, than it does about me.
You have no idea whether my first language is English.  Whether I'm dyslexic. What my level of education is. Whether I have cerebral palsy. etc...
 

I find your superior tone inconceivable. 
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: screwtape on May 07, 2013, 02:42:34 PM
Please stop the off topic sniping. 

Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: bertatberts on May 07, 2013, 03:39:24 PM
Please stop the off topic sniping. 


Your wish is my command.

Viocjit : Has all this been for nothing, are you going to explain why you asked these questions.
Or was it just a general inquiry.
If so let us know.
thank you.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: LoriPinkAngel on May 07, 2013, 03:50:06 PM

They should of wrote a blog.



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Bold mine.   
I find your superior tone ironic.   ;)
Then you clearly don't understand the terms being discussed. There was no superior tone.  Just a statement of fact.

Questioning somebodies grammar says more about you, than it does about me.
You have no idea whether my first language is English.  Whether I'm dyslexic. What my level of education is. Whether I have cerebral palsy. etc...
 

I find your superior tone inconceivable.

Sorry, I am anal about certain grammar things -- their, there, they're;  your, you're;  too, to, two; of, have...
I always see rants and diatribes (not that you were doing either) full of grammatical errors and I have a knee-jerk reaction to some triggers.  I often see people questioning or insulting other people's intelligence using bad grammar.  My all time favorite (and I'm not making this up) is "your not to brite".
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: LoriPinkAngel on May 07, 2013, 04:00:37 PM

Viocjit : Has all this been for nothing, are you going to explain why you asked these questions.
Or was it just a general inquiry.
If so let us know.
thank you.

I have found everyone's responses to this poster's questions very interesting and quite revealing. 
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: viocjit on May 07, 2013, 04:07:54 PM
For those who would like why I asked these questions.

I asked these questions only to verify if things that I can hear all my life about atheists are true.

My conclusion is the next : I can hear a lot of stupidity because there are only stereotypes.
But certains things are true.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Betelnut on May 07, 2013, 07:10:43 PM
For those who would like why I asked these questions.

I asked these questions only to verify if things that I can hear all my life about atheists are true.

My conclusion is the next : I can hear a lot of stupidity because there are only stereotypes.
But certains things are true.

Huh?  What do you mean?  Your response doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: magicmiles on May 07, 2013, 07:17:11 PM
In a nutshell, I think viocjit was saying that he wanted to compare the things he has always heard about atheism with the actual experiences and ideas of atheists. He has concluded that some of the things he has heard appear to be correct, but other things have been said ignorantly based on incorrect stereotypes.

English is his second language.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Star Stuff on May 07, 2013, 07:19:01 PM
But he fails to expand on just what "certain things" are true.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: magicmiles on May 07, 2013, 07:21:43 PM
Well, all in good time probably.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Chronos on May 07, 2013, 07:27:34 PM
But he fails to expand on just what "certain things" are true.

It would be interesting to know which ones are and which ones are not.

Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: ParkingPlaces on May 07, 2013, 07:30:32 PM
But he fails to expand on just what "certain things" are true.

It would be interesting to know which ones are and which ones are not.

Since each of who responded in detail did our best to provide our own truths, it would be more interesting to see what the OP thinks was untrue. Or at least more revealing.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Timtheskeptic on May 07, 2013, 07:51:01 PM
1.Why are you atheist ?

I am an Atheist because after a long, hard research about religions and the Christianity I grew up with, I find the bible to make no sense, I find christians who speak for their God instead of allowing their God to speak for himself if he truly exists, and I have not been provided a shred of evidence for an existence of a God.

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2.How are you became atheist ?

Do you mean, “How did you become an atheist?” I didn’t “become” an atheist, it’s not like I just turned around and said, “I now no longer believe!” I have taken a long, hard look at religion, their claims, and questioned everything and seek evidence to back their claims.

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3.Where are you from ?

I am born in California, USA. I now reside in Washington State.

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4.How old are you ?

Thirty, going on thirty-one in May 15.

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5.Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife) ? If no , can you explain why ?

I do not believe there is an afterlife, as there is no evidence to support such claim. I do not pretend to know what happens after we die, other than our body decays.

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6.Did you read all the Bible ? If you read all the bible what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...) ?

Yes, it was the King James Version. I hadn’t read all other versions of the bible.

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7.Did you read all the Quran ? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran).

No I have not read the Koran.

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8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ?

No I hadn’t read any other text.

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9.What are yours hobbies ?

Reading books.

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10.Can you define the goal of the life ?

To me, the goal in life is what an individual being decides to make of it. There is no supreme purpose or meaning or goal, it’s just your own personal goal in your own life.

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11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist.

That is more complicated than that. Which god would that be? Every religions have their own concept of eternal punishments. I do not know if I were going to be punished in some eternal punishment by some God because there just is no evidence for it.

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12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ?

No. I think that all gods are manmade. If you look at the depictions of the gods of all religions, they are too alike of their followers like their appearance and their human traits such as jealousy and anger.

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13.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ?

What is there to think of? I believe they have a right to believe in any god they like just as long as they don’t murder or violate people.

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14.What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions ?

Same answer as #13.

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15.What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s) ?

Like Buddhism or Shintoism you mean? I think that is fine. But if you think Atheism is a religion, then baldness is a hair color.

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16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Can you explain why ?

I do love philosophical books, it’s rather intriguing what people say about things they say. I do not look to them as absolute answer to life, but information they offer for me to research on.

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17.Do you fear to dead ? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...).

Do you mean to ask, “Do you fear death?” I do not fear death. I don’t fear it because it’s just the way life is, we’re all going to die eventually. What I rather be focusing on is living my life. If I were to die in few minutes or 50 years in the future, I don’t mind.

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18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason.

No I don’t like my life, but I do accept that I am a poor man with a pitiful job and struggling to stay alive and have some place to live. I am however not going to whine or demand that I deserve better. I’m going to work on improving my life. I can accept what I have, but it doesn’t mean I must like it. I didn’t like the horrible things I’ve seen in my life, I did not like the choices I’ve made, I was miserable, depressed and even suicidal.

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19.Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions ? If yes or no explain please.

Dreaming dreams is nice, but the reality is what we have to accept today. I don’t deny that I’ve dreamed a world where there is no religion, but I don’t close my eyes to the reality.

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20.Do you think that politic is like religion ? Explain why this is not equal or not.

Not really, politics is not the same as religion whereas religion is more of worshiping some deity or something like Buddhism.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Timtheskeptic on May 07, 2013, 08:02:26 PM
Eh, questionaire at least shows he's interested in what we think and why. Whilst quite basic, at least it offers some information and a starting point. Rather than jumping in with basless assumptions as many prefer to do. I thought it was kinda refreshing to be asked what I think. ;)

Yeah, and I do love questionaires though, it gives me something to think and respond to. I am an "addict" to things like questionaires since I was younger. :angel:
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: LoriPinkAngel on May 07, 2013, 08:07:55 PM
There are false stereotypes and generalizations applied to both atheists and christians.  Unfortunately there are some of both groups who fit those stereotypes.  Some jerk wrote a letter to the editor of my newspaper which basically stated that atheists chose that path so they didn't have to follow any moral rules and could do whatever they want.  I wanted to post a copy of it to this forum to get some good responses but I couldn't figure out how.  I don't know whether OP is trying to learn about atheists or atheism.  I found about what I expected from any diverse group of people -- some responded with straight informative answers,  some funny, some pompous and sarcastic, some enlightening and educational,  but mostly attempting to give the OP what he was seeking.  Very bummed how many people way younger than I am think they're old.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: bertatberts on May 08, 2013, 05:40:31 AM
Your as old as you feel. Lori. As George Bernard Shaw said "Youth is wasted on the young."
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: screwtape on May 08, 2013, 07:49:09 AM
I like this thread.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: plethora on May 08, 2013, 08:12:47 AM
1.Why are you atheist ?

Because I do not believe in the existence of any gods.

2.How are you became atheist ?

I was catholic up to about 17 ... I gradually stopped believing. I think I am naturally inclined towards scepticism. By 23 my faith was entirely gone. By 28 I had read so many refutations of religious arguments that I consolidated myself as a strong atheist. I am 33 now. I have heard every argument there is ... no religious claims have met their burden of proof. I simply cannot bring myself to believe those claims.

3.Where are you from ?

Born in Venezuela, of Mexican and Italian parents. Living in the UK now, about 19 miles from London.

4.How old are you ?

33

5.Do you believe in the afterlife (some atheist than I know believe to the afterlife) ? If no , can you explain why ?


The matter that comprises my body will disperse back into the universe after I die. All I am is the collection of matter and the particular arrangement it currently has. When this is no longer sustainable I will die. There is no 'after-life'.

6.Did you read all the Bible ? If you read all the bible what biblical canon (catholic , orthodox , protestant etc...) ?

Most of it.

7.Did you read all the Quran ? (Yes I know that for Muslims if you read a translation you don't read the Koran).


No.

8.Did you read an other religious text ? If yes what is it or what are they ?

No.

9.What are yours hobbies ?

I play guitar in a heavy metal band. I have a wife and daughter and I enjoy family activities with them.

10.Can you define the goal of the life ?

Most living organisms have two primary purposes ... to survive as long as possible and reproduce as much as possible.

However, as a human being living in a time where reproducing is optional and medical advances have extended our life spans ... the purpose of our lives is whatever we make of it.

I think a good way to summarize what I think should be the purpose of our lives is be to experience as much happiness as possible.

11.Sometimes do you think ? I will go in Hell if god does exist.

No. I do not believe in the existence of a god or a hell. So this does not concern me at all nor do I think about it. The only times I ever talk about it is when someone else brings it up.

12.Sometimes do you think that God does exist maybe ?

No. I do not believe a god exists at all.

13.What do you think about people who believe in monotheistic religions ?

Depends on the person. If their beliefs do not interfere with my life and does not cause them or anyone else any harm ... then I don't care. The minute their beliefs inform actions that have an negative impact on society then I have a problem with them.

14.What do you think about people who believe in polytheistic religions ?

Same as question 13.

15.What do you think about people who believe in a religion where there are not god(s) ?

Again, same as number 13... with the added point that I think any supernatural beliefs, with or without a god, are irrational.

16.Do you have an interest about philosophy to have answers about the life ? Can you explain why ?


Philosophy is sometimes very interesting and entertaining, but to be frank all I care about are the facts that science can tell us.

17.Do you fear to dead ? (I speak in a metaphysical context and about your friends , family etc...).

I have a fear of dying, which is natural.... but I do not fear death itself. When I am dead, it will be the same as before I was born. I will not exist.

18.Do you like your life ? If you like your life , why do you like your life. If you don't like your life I would like to know the reason.

I do like my life. I love my wife and daughter, I like my job, I love my music and I enjoy life as much as possible. Sure, there are moments that suck and sometimes I have problems that make life less enjoyable... but overall I do like my life.

19.Do you dream to live in a world where there are not place for the religions ? If yes or no explain please.

I would prefer if nobody believed in anything supernatural and instead replaced that with a passion for science. However, I would settle for the religious being peaceful and not imposing stupid bronze age ideas or harming society in the way many of them are doing now.

20.Do you think that politic is like religion ? Explain why this is not equal or not.

Kind of... it doesn't necessarily make 'supernatural' claims all the time but it pushes ideologies that are not always for the benefit of the majority.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: viocjit on May 08, 2013, 08:36:03 AM
In a nutshell, I think viocjit was saying that he wanted to compare the things he has always heard about atheism with the actual experiences and ideas of atheists. He has concluded that some of the things he has heard appear to be correct, but other things have been said ignorantly based on incorrect stereotypes.

English is his second language.

That is exact , magicmiles had really understood.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Jag on May 08, 2013, 10:07:30 AM
For those who would like why I asked these questions.

I asked these questions only to verify if things that I can hear all my life about atheists are true.

My conclusion is the next : I can hear a lot of stupidity because there are only stereotypes.
But certains things are true.

You asked the questions, and we answered. You can draw whatever conclusions you want to from that - I haven't yet mastered the mind control technique needed to make you believe that we are the best-est folks ever  ;D.

I want to caution you just a tiny bit though. You would do well to remember that we, here, are not necessarily a comprehensive cross-section of atheism. You're taking a poll of sorts from a group of people that identify as atheists, yes, but we're also atheists who are computer literate, are inclined to post in discussion forums, and one of the forums happens to be directly about the topic of atheism.

There are a lot of other atheists who do not do any of these things, and may give you a very different perception of what atheists are like. It might be fair to say that you've now got a sampling of what some atheists who are somewhat open about it have to say about how we arrived at our position - but I would be hesitant to consider that representative of atheists in general. We're not an ideal control group, as we aren't a random sampling - we're atheists who virtually mingle in a specific virtual location.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: LoriPinkAngel on May 08, 2013, 10:53:07 AM
You would do well to remember that we, here, are not necessarily a comprehensive cross-section of atheism. You're taking a poll of sorts from a group of people that identify as atheists, yes, but we're also atheists who are computer literate, are inclined to post in discussion forums, and one of the forums happens to be directly about the topic of atheism.

There are a lot of other atheists who do not do any of these things, and may give you a very different perception of what atheists are like. It might be fair to say that you've now got a sampling of what some atheists who are somewhat open about it have to say about how we arrived at our position - but I would be hesitant to consider that representative of atheists in general. We're not an ideal control group, as we aren't a random sampling - we're atheists who virtually mingle in a specific virtual location.

There is actually is pretty decent variety on this forum if you eliminate the similarities of computer literacy and forum visitation.  There is a wide age range.  There are representatives from across the globe.  There are numerous professions.  There are gays, bis and straights and I believe at least one member of this forum identified as transgender.  The personalities which are presented on the forum run the gamut from kind and likable to belligerent and annoying and many points in between.  So while this is in no way a random sample I think it is a pretty good representation.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Star Stuff on May 08, 2013, 10:57:38 AM
viocjit, it might be good to keep in mind that atheism isn't really an "ism" at all.  The word means nothing more than not having belief in god or gods.  Beyond that, any two atheists may have nothing (or plenty) in common.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Jag on May 08, 2013, 11:21:57 AM
You would do well to remember that we, here, are not necessarily a comprehensive cross-section of atheism. You're taking a poll of sorts from a group of people that identify as atheists, yes, but we're also atheists who are computer literate, are inclined to post in discussion forums, and one of the forums happens to be directly about the topic of atheism.

There are a lot of other atheists who do not do any of these things, and may give you a very different perception of what atheists are like. It might be fair to say that you've now got a sampling of what some atheists who are somewhat open about it have to say about how we arrived at our position - but I would be hesitant to consider that representative of atheists in general. We're not an ideal control group, as we aren't a random sampling - we're atheists who virtually mingle in a specific virtual location.

There is actually is pretty decent variety on this forum if you eliminate the similarities of computer literacy and forum visitation.  There is a wide age range.  There are representatives from across the globe.  There are numerous professions.  There are gays, bis and straights and I believe at least one member of this forum identified as transgender.  The personalities which are presented on the forum run the gamut from kind and likable to belligerent and annoying and many points in between.  So while this is in no way a random sample I think it is a pretty good representation.

A statistician I know IRL says that the thing to remember about polls is that the respondents share a common trait that's completely independent of the question being asked - they are people who are willing to answer poll questions posed by strangers. It made me giggle a bit the first time he said it, but it does have an effect. I know lots of non-believers who don't necessarily identify as atheists, or even agnostics, as it's just not that important to them. Our very presence here indicates that we may see it as more important than others with the same basic lack of belief about god. We're a great sample of what we are for all the reasons you said, we just might not be quite as great at representing atheism in general, simply because we're vocal about it and interested in discussing it.

The internet provides a level of anonymity that real life doesn't. I wouldn't have participated in this IRL (I would have thought it was extremely invasive), but Jag the internet forum member doesn't mind. That in itself may influence the results. voicjit asked the questions he wanted answers to, I just don't think anyone else should read too much into this single example, voicjit included.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: viocjit on May 08, 2013, 01:53:29 PM
I can say that I know that there are many forms of Atheism because Atheism is the fact than those people don't believe in deities.
The children believe in Santa Klaus (The majority) but they are different.
My example is maybe stupid like you say that : Atheism is not a belief.
Title: Re: Twenty questions for atheists
Post by: Azdgari on May 08, 2013, 01:55:46 PM
Sounds about right.  Atheism, like you say, is pretty trivial.  It says little about us.  And like others have pointed out, this forum isn't nearly as diverse a population of atheists as exists out in the world.

"Theism" is similarly diverse - it doesn't say much about a person to just say they believe in a deity!