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Title: Bryan Fischer wants to kidnap children from gay parents!
Post by: Timtheskeptic on August 08, 2012, 08:35:21 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/08/bryan-fischer-underground-railroad-gay-parents-kidnapping-_n_1757378.html

Two things!

1) I'm pissed that he used the word "Underground Railroad." The underground railroad was used by slaves to escape slave masters. Also, Harriet Tubman didn't kidnappened the slaves, she helped them escaped. The children are in no danger of same-sex couples. I know because i've been with a gay family and they're really are happy, safe, healthy, and stable family.

2) Kidnapping children? This man is insane! Not only is he talking felony, but he wants to terrify people into believing that same-sex couples are evil or some BS.
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer wants to kidnap children from gay parents!
Post by: mrbiscoop on August 08, 2012, 08:44:43 PM
This guys been in the news a lot lately (NPR). He definitely qualifies as a walking, talking bowel movement.http://www.npr.org/2012/06/14/155006347/radios-bryan-fischer-tries-pushing-romney-right
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer wants to kidnap children from gay parents!
Post by: naemhni on August 08, 2012, 08:59:14 PM
This guys been in the news a lot lately (NPR). He definitely qualifies as a walking, talking bowel movement.http://www.npr.org/2012/06/14/155006347/radios-bryan-fischer-tries-pushing-romney-right

I think my favorite response to this was on Facebook a little while ago from science fiction author David Gerrold, a never-married gay man who adopted a son some fifteen or twenty years ago:

Quote from: David Gerrold
Dear Mr. Fischer,

Come near my son and you'll discover the hard way that gay people know how to apply second amendment remedies too.

Sincerely,

That's MISTER Faggot to you.
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer wants to kidnap children from gay parents!
Post by: Backspace on August 08, 2012, 09:18:06 PM
He definitely qualifies as a walking, talking bowel movement

Thank you Mr. B -- I was looking for an appropriate description for Mr. Fischer, and I think you nailed it.
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer wants to kidnap children from gay parents!
Post by: rev45 on August 08, 2012, 09:22:07 PM
I think my favorite response to this was on Facebook a little while ago from science fiction author David Gerrold, a never-married gay man who adopted a son some fifteen or twenty years ago:

Quote from: David Gerrold
Dear Mr. Fischer,

Come near my son and you'll discover the hard way that gay people know how to apply second amendment remedies too.

Sincerely,

That's MISTER Faggot to you.
Maybe Mr. Gerrold is a member of the Pink Pistols.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Pistols (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Pistols)
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer wants to kidnap children from gay parents!
Post by: Garja on August 08, 2012, 10:38:33 PM
I am not a violent man, and I am typically incredibly hard to offend, but rarely have I wanted to punch someone in their bigoted-hate-filled mouth more.
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer wants to kidnap children from gay parents!
Post by: Aaron123 on August 08, 2012, 11:34:57 PM
The sad thing is, I'm no longer surprised by this sort of thing.  Five-ten years ago, I would've expressed shock.  But now I think "geez, yet another crazy..."


On the flip side, it's reassuring to know that David Gerrold is still awesome.
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer wants to kidnap children from gay parents!
Post by: Nick on August 09, 2012, 07:24:28 AM
So does he plan to hide them with Catholic priests? ;)
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer wants to kidnap children from gay parents!
Post by: jetson on August 09, 2012, 07:37:29 AM
I have to wonder if he is trying to ride the Chik-Fil-A circus, while emotions and bigotry are at a fever pitch.  Thanks to the "free speech" support given to hate-mongers by the rest of the homophobes in this arena.
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer wants to kidnap children from gay parents!
Post by: Nam on August 09, 2012, 02:48:17 PM
Religious people find their own justifications for things. My grandmother, who was a religious nut, drove from Ft. Lauderdale to Orlando to kidnap my sister 'cause Biblegod told her (in her mind) that one of her other sons, who had no children, should have a child since he was married for 3 or so years and his wife never got pregnant.

This is how they think: Biblegod tells them they have to do this or these children, or people are damned for Hell.

They are trying to save them.

Sad, really.

-Nam
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer wants to kidnap children from gay parents!
Post by: 12 Monkeys on August 09, 2012, 07:53:11 PM
So does he plan to hide them with Catholic priests? ;)
The question is where should he hide them :angel:
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer wants to kidnap children from gay parents!
Post by: Nam on August 09, 2012, 07:55:22 PM
^Under the bed with his Gay pornography.

-Nam
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer wants to kidnap children from gay parents!
Post by: jynnan tonnix on August 09, 2012, 09:40:04 PM
"The Trouble With Tribbles" David Gerrold? Cool! I still have his book about writing that episode, which I bought way back when I was in high school (1976-ish). I practically had it memorized.
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer wants to kidnap children from gay parents!
Post by: jaimehlers on August 14, 2012, 12:53:56 PM
What a sad excuse for a human being.  I hope they throw the book at him cause of this aiding/abetting thing.
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer wants to kidnap children from gay parents!
Post by: Quesi on August 14, 2012, 01:41:35 PM
If there were only a hell for this man to rot in.....

Seriously.  I know a lot of kids being raised in gay and lesbian households.  I know them both through my adoptive parents' networks, and from just around my very family oriented, very gay friendly neighborhood.  I think that there were three kids in my daughter's preschool class with gay parents. 

Parents who really really really wanted to be parents. 

Parents who got their kids into the best preschool in the community.  Parents whose weekends are filled with trips to zoos and museums and theatrical events.  Parents who fuss over healthy foods and say no to ice cream more than they say yes.  Parents who sit down every night and help their kids with homework and read Good Night Moon at bedtime.  Parents who grapple with summer plans - weighing the pros and cons of sports based summer camps vs academic based environments.  Parents who are usually older, and more financially stable, whose kids have passports full of stamps from exciting far away places.  Parents who shuttle their kids between ballet class and soccer practice and parents whose children's art is displayed in the windows of local businesses.  Parents who stand around cocktail parties discussing the best pediatricians in the community, and the pros and cons of taking antibiotics before it is confirmed if an infection is bacterial or viral.  Parents who worry about too much "screen time" and parents who worry about pesticides and parents who ensure that their kids know how to swim and ride a bike and ice skate. 

Parents who really want to be parents are parents who work really hard at being parents and are really happy to be parents and who fill their homes with love and support and opportunities.

Parents who teach their children to marginalize other children, and who teach their children to fear or disdain children in different kinds of families - those are the parents whose parenting ability I question. 
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer wants to kidnap children from gay parents!
Post by: jaimehlers on August 14, 2012, 02:25:06 PM
I can at least understand the reasoning of parents like that, even though I don't agree with it.  The problem isn't so much them as it is the "spiritual leaders" who convince whole groups of others that it's perfectly okay to marginalize and disdain those who are different.
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer wants to kidnap children from gay parents!
Post by: Timtheskeptic on August 14, 2012, 02:50:57 PM
Egg-xactly Quesi!  :laugh:

I hadn't got to be around LGBT parents, but i got to meet one when visiting Portland. They are truly wonderful parents. They always care for their children.

They take to them school, made sure they do their chores, brush their teeth, eat their veggies, do their homework (even help them with it), took them to dentist or the doctor appointments, spend time with them, take them to do fun activities like parks or zoos or whatever, and they always give their kids love and care. They show more effort they put into raising their adopted children than i see parents where i work at. They're better parents than mine!

Ok, granted there was seven of us and it can be hectic, but they show they are perfectly capable of raising children in healthy, stable, and safe enviroment.

It seems to me that Bryan Fist... i mean fischer, never tries to get his head out of his ass to see that not all biological parents are better parents and one's sexuality does not determine whether they make good parents. The two kids they adopted, their mother was drug addicted and unfit to care for her children.
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer wants to kidnap children from gay parents!
Post by: nogodsforme on August 14, 2012, 02:59:33 PM
Beside the obvious fact that straight parents are the leading cause of gay people.... :?
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer wants to kidnap children from gay parents!
Post by: Nam on August 14, 2012, 03:53:57 PM
^they are? Who knew?

;)

-Nam
Title: Re: Bryan Fischer wants to kidnap children from gay parents!
Post by: nogodsforme on August 14, 2012, 06:26:18 PM
Just ask the Cheneys.