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Title: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Goodkat on November 04, 2008, 11:32:37 AM
I will not be posting here anymore, my father overheard me talking to my sister last night, and went into a fit  of rage. He shoved me into his room and yelled at me with his hand around my throat. He told me that I was using his money to slander Christ, and threatened several times to "beat the living shit out of" me. He's taking my computer and forbidding me from talking to my sister to try to prevent her indoctrination. I will miss you all, and I hope I have been helpful to the forum. Goodbye


 GoodKat
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: WellManicuredMan on November 04, 2008, 12:03:42 PM
That's absolutely horrible. Since you must still be a minor, can you claim child abuse? Strangling sounds like abuse to me.

I wish you best of luck in the future; hopefully once you are free from your tyrannical father you can return here.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Atheist_Convert on November 04, 2008, 12:06:09 PM
Goodkat, that is indeed horrible. I'm sure your father's actions will demonstrate what a kind and loving jesus he wants your sister to continue to worship and adore.

I have enjoyed your contributions for sure and hope we will one day see your return.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: nihilanth on November 04, 2008, 12:08:50 PM
I will not be posting here anymore, my father overheard me talking to my sister last night, and went into a fit  of rage. He shoved me into his room and yelled at me with his hand around my throat. He told me that I was using his money to slander Christ, and threatened several times to "beat the living s**t out of" me. He's taking my computer and forbidding me from talking to my sister to try to prevent her indoctrination. I will miss you all, and I hope I have been helpful to the forum. Goodbye


 GoodKat

Well, the hand around the throat and the threats were not necessary. That is also child abuse. Call the cops.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Davedave on November 04, 2008, 12:10:31 PM
We must stop trying to prove the non-existence of God.
We must start trying to cause it.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: velkyn on November 04, 2008, 12:14:45 PM
amazing how many "good Christians" are some of the worst people in the world.  Vermin. 

Best of luck, GK. 
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Davedave on November 04, 2008, 12:19:11 PM
I believe Goodkat was over the age of 18.  This isn't child abuse.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: nihilanth on November 04, 2008, 12:41:03 PM
I believe Goodkat was over the age of 18.  This isn't child abuse.

Then Goodkat should have gave him a swift kick in the balls. I remember the last time my dad threatened to "box my ears!" LOL

I was 22 and I told him to bring it. HE didn't. LOL  Nor would he have gotten away with it. ; )

We never got along for about 5 years after that. We are cool now though.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Azdgari on November 04, 2008, 12:43:57 PM
Nihilanth, do you think this constitutes a mere angry disagreement?
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: nihilanth on November 04, 2008, 01:13:39 PM
Nihilanth, do you think this constitutes a mere angry disagreement?

Probably. However the hand around the throat is assault, and the threats are illegal as well. Without the physical parts, and the threats, the father would have been completely justified. His money, his internet.

He was probably more shocked than anything.



Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Azdgari on November 04, 2008, 01:15:41 PM
Having had a fundamentalist father who told me to follow his church or go to hell at age 12, and having been, in most important ways, disowned by him for nearly a decade afterward, I find your assumptions about this being a "mere angry disagreement" both stupid and offensive.  You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Azdgari on November 04, 2008, 01:37:37 PM
On that note, Goodkat, I sympathize deeply.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: nihilanth on November 04, 2008, 01:37:49 PM
Having had a fundamentalist father who told me to follow his church or go to hell at age 12, and having been, in most important ways, disowned by him for nearly a decade afterward, I find your assumptions about this being a "mere angry disagreement" both stupid and offensive.  You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

Really? Let's see. Using his fathers internet which the father was paying for to conduct an activity that the father did not agree with. Goodkats bad.

Father putting his hands around his sons throat and screaming at him and threatening to beat him. Fathers bad.

Anger was definately involved and it was a dissagreement. I believe I certainly do have an clue what I am talking about. I am just not getting all subjective about it, like you are.

Here is a good clue. You are an atheist because your father scared you with this religious threat for He had no right to tell you that you were going to hell. This frightened you and you saw God in the same light as you see your father. This is not hard to figure out. I bet most of the people here are atheists because of a similar situation, or a bad experience with a certain religious denomination.

I knew this coming in man. I was going to start a post about it. But I declined. I figured all the responses I would get would be emotional rantings and spitting anger for opening up old emotional wounds. Also, the overly defensive attacks and insults I would have to endure.

I once had a cranky verbally abusive athesitic father. He is a much nicer guy now. Age has quenched that fire in him. He used to hate cats. Now he has taken in a stray. He is still a bit of an arguementative dick at times, and he is quite prejudiced, but he has calmed down quite a bit. He still admits that he is an atheist, but he feels that he is missing something in his life. I do not push my beliefs on him, but he respects them.

Is this a good alalogy of the situation?











Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Deus ex Machina on November 04, 2008, 01:43:57 PM
Dreadful news. I'm deeply sorry to hear this, Goodkat. :(
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Azdgari on November 04, 2008, 01:47:10 PM
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Here is a good clue. You are an atheist because your father scared you with this religious threat for He had no right to tell you that you were going to hell. This frightened you and you saw God in the same light as you see your father. This is not hard to figure out. I bet most of the people here are atheists because of a similar situation, or a bad experience with a certain religious denomination.

100% wrong, nihilanth.  I was already an atheist at the time.  It was my atheism that caused the rift between myself and my father, not the fact that I was playing MTG.  You have it entirely backwards.  Will you admit you were wrong, or do you need to believe in your assumption about me so badly that you'll ignore the correction?

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Anger was definately involved and it was a dissagreement. I believe I certainly do have an clue what I am talking about. I am just not getting all subjective about it, like you are.

The key word was "mere".  Do you really think that this disagreement was purely one about (im)proper internet use?  That's not how Goodkat characterized it.  Though you'd know better than Goodkat, right?

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I once had a cranky verbally abusive athesitic father. He is a much nicer guy now. Age has quenched that fire in him. He used to hate cats. Now he has taken in a stray. He is still a bit of an arguementative dick at times, and he is quite prejudiced, but he has calmed down quite a bit. He still admits that he is an atheist, but he feels that he is missing something in his life. I do not push my beliefs on him, but he respects them.

Is this a good alalogy of the situation?

Did he shun you for a decade for being a Christian?  If not, then no, it's a terrible analogy.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: nihilanth on November 04, 2008, 01:50:45 PM
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Here is a good clue. You are an atheist because your father scared you with this religious threat for He had no right to tell you that you were going to hell. This frightened you and you saw God in the same light as you see your father. This is not hard to figure out. I bet most of the people here are atheists because of a similar situation, or a bad experience with a certain religious denomination.

100% wrong, nihilanth.  I was already an atheist at the time.  It was my atheism that caused the rift between myself and my father, not the fact that I was playing MTG.  You have it entirely backwards.  Will you admit you were wrong, or do you need to believe in your assumption about me so badly that you'll ignore the correction?

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Anger was definately involved and it was a dissagreement. I believe I certainly do have an clue what I am talking about. I am just not getting all subjective about it, like you are.

The key word was "mere".  Do you really think that this disagreement was purely one about (im)proper internet use?  That's not how Goodkat characterized it.  Though you'd know better than Goodkat, right?

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I once had a cranky verbally abusive athesitic father. He is a much nicer guy now. Age has quenched that fire in him. He used to hate cats. Now he has taken in a stray. He is still a bit of an arguementative dick at times, and he is quite prejudiced, but he has calmed down quite a bit. He still admits that he is an atheist, but he feels that he is missing something in his life. I do not push my beliefs on him, but he respects them.

Is this a good alalogy of the situation?

Did he shun you for a decade for being a Christian?  If not, then no, it's a terrible analogy.

As of you would know what you were talking about at age 12. No 12 yearold could even understand the concept of theism or athesim. You probably became an athesit because you realized that your father was a religious nut and you were sane.

Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Azdgari on November 04, 2008, 01:53:26 PM
So now, not only does nihilanth know more about Goodkat's situation than Goodkat does, but he also knows more about me at age 12 than I do.  Nihilanth, is the holy spirit giving you this info, or are you just making stuff up?
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: nihilanth on November 04, 2008, 02:06:31 PM
So now, not only does nihilanth know more about Goodkat's situation than Goodkat does, but he also knows more about me at age 12 than I do.  Nihilanth, is the holy spirit giving you this info, or are you just making stuff up?

I will admit that I am making an opiniated assumption. I have no problem with that. it is just in my experience I notice that strong minded chldren of overly zelous religious nuts turn away from religion. It is just an observed occourance that I have noticed.

I meant no offense. I apologize if I did indeed offend you.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Azdgari on November 04, 2008, 02:12:43 PM
I was actually pretty much oblivious to my father's fundamentalism up until that point.  My parents divorced when I was 4, so I didn't get exposed to his religion's fundamentalist side until my father blasted me with it.  I honestly and truly never considered him a zealot up until that point.  So your observation:
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I notice that strong minded chldren of overly zelous religious nuts turn away from religion.
...is not applicable.

Regarding your apology, I accept it in its own limited scope.  I.e., I accept the apology for the offense.  However, your views - apparently unchanged - are still highly offensive and inaccurate.

At any rate, I've more or less reconciled with my own father (though we make a point of not discussing religion if we can help it).  Forget my offense, and my pain.  Please, consider Goodkat's.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: nihilanth on November 04, 2008, 02:21:41 PM
I was actually pretty much oblivious to my father's fundamentalism up until that point.  My parents divorced when I was 4, so I didn't get exposed to his religion's fundamentalist side until my father blasted me with it.  I honestly and truly never considered him a zealot up until that point.  So your observation:
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I notice that strong minded chldren of overly zelous religious nuts turn away from religion.
...is not applicable.

Regarding your apology, I accept it in its own limited scope.  I.e., I accept the apology for the offense.  However, your views - apparently unchanged - are still highly offensive and inaccurate.

At any rate, I've more or less reconciled with my own father (though we make a point of not discussing religion if we can help it).  Forget my offense, and my pain.  Please, consider Goodkat's.

I empathize with your situation. Did I mention my verbally abusive father in the past?

I know it is painfull. no matter what the dissagreemnt is about, it is emotionally painfull. Especially when it is unnecsssary.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Azdgari on November 04, 2008, 02:23:48 PM
Did he shun you for a decade for being a Christian?  If not, then no, it's a terrible analogy.

While this may or may not pertain directly to Goodkat's situation, my point here was that the verbal abuse isn't the main issue in such situations.  The personal rejection is.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: MadBunny on November 04, 2008, 02:26:00 PM
I will not be posting here anymore, my father overheard me talking to my sister last night, and went into a fit  of rage. He shoved me into his room and yelled at me with his hand around my throat. He told me that I was using his money to slander Christ, and threatened several times to "beat the living s**t out of" me. He's taking my computer and forbidding me from talking to my sister to try to prevent her indoctrination. I will miss you all, and I hope I have been helpful to the forum. Goodbye


 GoodKat

I'm deeply saddened to hear this.
Fortunately you can slander Christ for free and it won't cost him a thing.

For a man who values imaginary friends over money, and faith over family that should go over well.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Freezykow on November 04, 2008, 04:07:21 PM
Goodbye sir... You were one of the most sensible and reasonable people I have ever met on this site. I wish you well.

Peace and God Bless.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Idioteque on November 04, 2008, 04:12:02 PM
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I will admit that I am making an opiniated assumption. I have no problem with that.

 ???
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Seppuku on November 04, 2008, 04:19:03 PM
So much for the love of Jesus.

What a f***ing w**ker.

Goodbye Goodkat, you were a groovy poster.

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As of you would know what you were talking about at age 12. No 12 yearold could even understand the concept of theism or athesim. You probably became an athesit because you realized that your father was a religious nut and you were sane.

I became an atheist at 8/9 because I thought Christianity was bad. I hated it and I had pretty much perceive the inconsistency triad (just not in a triangular form, I just knew bad things happened and that a loving god is a silly idea and heard of some of the types of Christians in the world), it wasn't until I was 13/14 that I started forgiving Chrisianity and realising where my problems with it lied and what the real problem with 'evil' was. I learned that evil doesn't belong to a specific group, just individuals and who the individuals influence to be like them.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Davedave on November 04, 2008, 04:52:50 PM
As of you would know what you were talking about at age 12. No 12 yearold could even understand the concept of theism or athesim.

Don't inflict the rest of us with the mental limitations you found yourself bearing.  Seeing as you believe that a Jewish zombie that was his own father had to arrange his own death so that an invisible part of our bodies could be cleansed of an invisible stain passed down over the generations because a talking snake convinced a woman to eat a magical piece of fruit, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't suggest that you have any familiarity with the upper boundaries of human intellect.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Atheist_Convert on November 04, 2008, 04:53:25 PM
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No 12 yearold could even understand the concept of theism or athesim.

That may not be the most ignorant statement I've ever read in an internet forum, but it's right up there. I guess that means children who die before the age of 13 automatically get a free pass into heaven right, no matter what they've done, right?
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Star Stuff on November 04, 2008, 06:00:37 PM
So sorry to hear of this Goodcat.  I sense you'll find a way back.

"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise."  (James Madison)

This includes fatherhood apparently.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Disciple of Christ on November 04, 2008, 06:09:28 PM
I will not be posting here anymore, my father overheard me talking to my sister last night, and went into a fit  of rage. He shoved me into his room and yelled at me with his hand around my throat. He told me that I was using his money to slander Christ, and threatened several times to "beat the living s**t out of" me. He's taking my computer and forbidding me from talking to my sister to try to prevent her indoctrination. I will miss you all, and I hope I have been helpful to the forum. Goodbye


 GoodKat

I think you should call Child Protection on your father. Or the next time he lays his hands on you, call 911. It will only take a few minutes for the Police to arrive, and they can see the red marks on you, and daddy will be off to Jail, where he belongs!

I'm sorry to hear about your situation. If you need anything, just email me.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Azdgari on November 04, 2008, 06:12:03 PM
DoC, if your posting history is any indicator, then you're the same kind of Christian that Goodkat's father is:  A raging fundamentalist who can't abide the mere existence of atheists.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Disciple of Christ on November 04, 2008, 06:16:15 PM
DoC, if your posting history is any indicator, then you're the same kind of Christian that Goodkat's father is:  A raging fundamentalist who can't abide the mere existence of atheists.

Nice generalization. I wouldn't harm a child in any manner. Just because I visit atheists forums online and say atheists are the devil in disguise, that doesn't mean I support child abuse! You should apologize. I believe Jesus Christ said, "Beware of those who would hurt a child." Maybe he should read what Jesus said about children, and how precious they are to God, and how they are the "Gift to the Mother."

Goodkat's father needs his ass kicked.

Adolf Hitler killed thousands. . .  does that mean I should go out and kill thousands of Jews?
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Freezykow on November 04, 2008, 06:17:37 PM
DoC, if your posting history is any indicator, then you're the same kind of Christian that Goodkat's father is:  A raging fundamentalist who can't abide the mere existence of atheists.

Nice generalization. I wouldn't harm a child in any manner. Just because I visit atheists forums online and say atheists are the devil in disguise, that doesn't mean I support child abuse! You should apologize. I believe Jesus Christ said, "Beware of those who would hurt a child." Maybe he should read what Jesus said about children, and how precious they are to God, and how they are the "Gift to the Mother."

Goodkat's father needs his ass kicked.


Goodkat's father needs his ass kicked.

It would definatly do him some good.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Star Stuff on November 04, 2008, 06:20:57 PM
.............and how precious they (children) are to God, and how they are the "Gift to the Mother."


Not to derail this thread, but why do you turn a blind eye to your god drowning countless number of children?


Why should I allow that same God to tell me how to raise my kids, who drowned his own?  (Robert Ingersoll)
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Azdgari on November 04, 2008, 06:25:06 PM
Nice generalization.

How is a statement about you, based on observations of you, a generalization?

I wouldn't harm a child in any manner. Just because I visit atheists forums online and say atheists are the devil in disguise, that doesn't mean I support child abuse!

You support the deportation of atheists.  And Goodkat isn't a child.  Regardless, I didn't say you were a child abuser.  I made a very specific claim.  I said you were:
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A raging fundamentalist who can't abide the mere existence of atheists.

You should apologize.

I refuse to apologize for something I didn't say.

Goodkat's father needs his ass kicked.

Agreed.  Oh, by the way, weren't you going to possibly divorce your wife for the un-Christian practice of setting up Christmas trees?

Adolf Hitler killed thousands. . .  does that mean I should go out and kill thousands of Jews?

Behold DoC, master of irrelevance.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Disciple of Christ on November 04, 2008, 06:25:19 PM
.............and how precious they (children) are to God, and how they are the "Gift to the Mother."


Not to derail this thread, but why do you turn a blind eye to your god drowning countless number of children?


Why should I allow that same God to tell me how to raise my kids, who drowned his own?  (Robert Ingersoll)

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Not to derail this thread, but why do you turn a blind eye to your god drowning countless number of children?

That's right, don't derail a thread of this importance all because you are angry at God's justice to a world of sin. But he promised not to do it again. Don't you trust in him?  ;D

Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Star Stuff on November 04, 2008, 06:29:28 PM
While the whole "global flood" is just a fable, I'll entertain it for the moment:

Chances are, most people were living normal, happy lives, just working hard to survive.  Do you feel that arbitrarily drowning everyone, including babies, is just?  What kind of beast do you worship anyways?
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Disciple of Christ on November 04, 2008, 06:33:01 PM
Nice generalization.

How is a statement about you, based on observations of you, a generalization?

I wouldn't harm a child in any manner. Just because I visit atheists forums online and say atheists are the devil in disguise, that doesn't mean I support child abuse!

You support the deportation of atheists.  And Goodkat isn't a child.  Regardless, I didn't say you were a child abuser.  I made a very specific claim.  I said you were:
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A raging fundamentalist who can't abide the mere existence of atheists.

You should apologize.

I refuse to apologize for something I didn't say.

Goodkat's father needs his ass kicked.

Agreed.  Oh, by the way, weren't you going to possibly divorce your wife for the un-Christian practice of setting up Christmas trees?

Adolf Hitler killed thousands. . .  does that mean I should go out and kill thousands of Jews?

Behold DoC, master of irrelevance.

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Oh, by the way, weren't you going to possibly divorce your wife for the un-Christian practice of setting up Christmas trees?
What does this have to do with beating a kid sensless in the name of Jesus?

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You support the deportation of atheists.
Absolutely! I support all atheists who want to do nothing but spread around the U.S that "God is imaginary" to be shipped to their own Godless country? Why are you so bitter about that? Heck, That would be like "Heaven" sort-to-speak for you atheists, wouldn't it? Just imagine, No more Christians, Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Terrorists, Creationists, I.Der's, Christian Scientists...  ;D
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Azdgari on November 04, 2008, 06:37:17 PM
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Oh, by the way, weren't you going to possibly divorce your wife for the un-Christian practice of setting up Christmas trees?
What does this have to do with beating a kid sensless in the name of Jesus?

Nothing, directly.  It's just an example of the destructive influence religion can have on a family.  By the way, Goodkat wasn't beaten...yet.  Anyway, you did indeed threaten to break up your family unit over religion, right?

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You support the deportation of atheists.
Absolutely! I support all atheists who want to do nothing but spread around the U.S that "God is imaginary" to be shipped to their own Godless country?

Deport them all, tear them from their homes and friends.  But don't beat them.  That's immoral.  Damn, you're one crazy mo-fo, DoC.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: singlecrochet on November 04, 2008, 06:57:07 PM
I believe Goodkat was over the age of 18.  This isn't child abuse.

It's still assault and domestic violence.  In my state, strangling is Assault 2, the second highest level of assault.  Just because you're not a minor doesn't mean people, related or not, can grab you by the throat.  Period.

(I'm a police detective.  I know a bit about this.)
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Davedave on November 04, 2008, 07:03:00 PM
It's not "still" assault and domestic violence.  It's just assault and domestic violence.  I said it wasn't child abuse.  He's 18.  He should move out.  I think that's a better solution all the way around than criminal prosecution.  Assuming he's not inclined to break his dad's jaw.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: L6 on November 04, 2008, 07:06:20 PM
Yahweh is such a weak god to require people like GoodKat's father to enforce his will.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Seppuku on November 04, 2008, 07:07:31 PM
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That's right, don't derail a thread of this importance all because you are angry at God's justice to a world of sin. But he promised not to do it again. Don't you trust in him?

Someone is responsible for the death of many, many, many lives - a large mass murder, killing children, killing babies, killing other people for his elite - a great murder. Then he decides "I don't want to kill anymore, instead I'll sit in the corner and watch you kill each other and expect you to worship me in the process or I will send you to suffer for eternity when you die."

Do I trust him? If such a being existed, then I would not trust him. I would hate him, I would want him to die, I'd want him to pay - to understand what his cruel and selfish actions have meant. If God was our creator, then great, I'd appreciate it if he weren't such a murderous b***tard with the obsession for people to worship him with the threat that he'll cause you to have an eternity of suffering. My parents made me and I don't subjectify myself to worship them, or show absolute obedience and conformity to - if my parents decided to kill my brother, it would be immoral.

If God is real, then I want him to be held accountable for His sins, for his evil, for his wrong doings. If God is let off, then get Charles Manson out of jail, bring back Saddam, bring back Hitler, bring back Genghis Khan - for they were more moral that this being.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Hermes on November 04, 2008, 07:09:12 PM
FK!  You will be missed Goodkat.  I'd give you advice, but the bottom line is that you know quite a bit and need no advice.  

Keep safe and when you come back give us a shout!
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Cyberia on November 04, 2008, 07:24:30 PM
Look, I don't always agree with everyone I know, sometimes even heatedly, but when the other party crosses the line and it becomes physical the favor needs to be returned with aplomb.  I will NEVER cross that line first, but when it is crossed, I'll make sure it's the last time they do so.

YOU CAN NEVER LET SOMEONE 'WIN' AN ARGUMENT WITH VIOLENCE OR THREATS.

It more difficult when it's a family member or friend, but you've gotta draw a line and let them know that they do NOT have the right to determine YOUR opinion by ANY means.  If you can't physically protect yourself, you need to get help.  It's that important.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: nihilanth on November 04, 2008, 07:46:02 PM
.............and how precious they (children) are to God, and how they are the "Gift to the Mother."


Not to derail this thread, but why do you turn a blind eye to your god drowning countless number of children?


Why should I allow that same God to tell me how to raise my kids, who drowned his own?  (Robert Ingersoll)

They were no children of His. Those people (according to the bible of course) turned their back on Him and were unworthy of inheriting the planet. Noah'a family was.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Star Stuff on November 04, 2008, 07:50:50 PM
C'mon.........you're not that stupid.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: nihilanth on November 04, 2008, 07:59:57 PM
C'mon.........you're not that stupid.

No I am not. Are you? This is how it is... biblically of course.

If God exists and there IS an afterlife, those innocents will end up in Heaven. The guilty will not. Also, if the story is true, we are all the decendants of those who were spared. Why is everybody crying?

Most of you appear to totally miss that point. instead you all go... "God is mean for drowning all those people!"  Well, it could have been worse, and biblically they deserved it.

Also, who is to say that there were in fact millions of people on the planet at that time?  For all we know, there could have been Noah's bunch, and the other bunch, who were biblically described as being nasty vile and just plain evil. God wiped them out and allowed Noah's bunch to be saved. Also, every major culture in the world has some sort of flood myth. 

I got no problem with God doing that.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: MadBunny on November 04, 2008, 08:14:51 PM
I got no problem with God doing that.


Neither did the Egyptians, or the Chinese who for some odd reason carried on as though there was no world spanning flood.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: jetson on November 04, 2008, 08:22:27 PM
Goodkat,

I hope you find a way to log in and tell us how you are.  Find an internet cafe, or a friend, or something.  I am saddened to hear of your father's violent reaction.  Please let us know how you are doing - if possible!

Kenny
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: nihilanth on November 04, 2008, 08:30:57 PM
I got no problem with God doing that.


Neither did the Egyptians, or the Chinese who for some odd reason carried on as though there was no world spanning flood.

Well, the world according to Noah. The world as far as he knew. Maybe it was not the entire planet, maybe it was, maybe it did not happen at all. Maybe is was long before the Egyptian and Chinese societies were even formed and maybe we were all the same color back then. Maybe the population was as small as 50,000 people and we were still in the stone age. This event would have happened long before any recorded historical civilization.

Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Star Stuff on November 04, 2008, 08:50:12 PM
Dude, you're really scaring me with your last few posts.  I could see that coming from DoC, but thought you have some basic understanding of human history.


(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t172/Paddywacked/HumanMigration.jpg)


I cannot fathom why you give so much credibility to the infantile, ignorant, dusty train-wreck called the bible!
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: nihilanth on November 04, 2008, 09:03:36 PM
I actually do not give too much merrit to the Old Testament at all actually dude. I was only talking Biblically. By what was written in the bible. Not reality.

I do not believe in all the booiks of the bible at all. I believe that some are legit, and that most are fiction.

I am not going all in either way.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Star Stuff on November 04, 2008, 09:07:01 PM
(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t172/Paddywacked/Granny.gif)
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Star Stuff on November 04, 2008, 09:14:36 PM
One of the foundation stones of our faith is the Old Testament. If that book is not true, if its authors were unaided men, if it contains blunders and falsehoods, then that stone crumbles to dust...The Old Testament must be thrown aside. It is no longer a foundation. It has crumbled.  (Robert Ingersoll)
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: spider on November 04, 2008, 09:17:00 PM
I wonder if Goodkat will try to move out.

I hope he comes back to this thread to talk about it.  It's not so easy as just leaving. 
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Azdgari on November 04, 2008, 09:23:42 PM
<INTENSE THREAD DERAILMENT DETECTED!>

Come on guys, the Noahic Flood?  Seriously?
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Star Stuff on November 04, 2008, 09:25:45 PM
Sorry, I went chasing a butterfly.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Airyaman on November 04, 2008, 09:58:23 PM
I actually do not give too much merrit to the Old Testament at all actually dude. I was only talking Biblically. By what was written in the bible. Not reality.

I do not believe in all the booiks of the bible at all. I believe that some are legit, and that most are fiction.

I am not going all in either way.

How do you determine which book is fiction?
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Irish on November 04, 2008, 10:06:51 PM
This topic has gotten way off base.  First we hear a horrid story about GoodKat being abused by his father all in the name of a "loving" religion and then what do we do?  We're bitching and griping about who said what in a different post, the migration of modern humans, how the Bible is falsifiable, and the great flood or the Bible.  I'm not trying to add fuel to the fire but we have other posts that talk about the flood.  This topic was GoodKat saying goodbye for a serious offense that should warrant the father nothing but a minimum jail sentence for assault.

I'm not trying to piss anyone off and I say this in the nicest tone, but please, don't gripe in this thread about trivial stuff when there are other threads for that.  This thread should not be for that.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Star Stuff on November 04, 2008, 10:12:20 PM
Steady.................already dealt with.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Azdgari on November 04, 2008, 10:27:47 PM
For you, maybe, but Airyaman seemed to miss the memo.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: MadBunny on November 05, 2008, 12:51:31 AM
I wonder if Goodkat will try to move out.

I hope he comes back to this thread to talk about it.  It's not so easy as just leaving. 

^^ this.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Airyaman on November 05, 2008, 04:06:43 AM
For you, maybe, but Airyaman seemed to miss the memo.

Sorry, I just saw an opportunity...
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: spetznatz on November 05, 2008, 05:26:48 AM
Sorry to be so late in on this, but my thoughts are with you.

In the hope that you can read this, try and find an internet access point (library, internet cafe), and let us know how you're doing.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Disciple of Christ on November 06, 2008, 10:11:32 AM
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Oh, by the way, weren't you going to possibly divorce your wife for the un-Christian practice of setting up Christmas trees?
What does this have to do with beating a kid sensless in the name of Jesus?

Nothing, directly.  It's just an example of the destructive influence religion can have on a family.  By the way, Goodkat wasn't beaten...yet.  Anyway, you did indeed threaten to break up your family unit over religion, right?

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You support the deportation of atheists.
Absolutely! I support all atheists who want to do nothing but spread around the U.S that "God is imaginary" to be shipped to their own Godless country?

Deport them all, tear them from their homes and friends.  But don't beat them.  That's immoral.  Damn, you're one crazy mo-fo, DoC.

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Anyway, you did indeed threaten to break up your family unit over religion, right?
Yes, I did threaten, but that does not mean that it will be dealt with in a manner that I want it. Of course, I will give in and place a tree in my house. Only for the sake of my children having what my wife calls, "A normal Christmas." And she told me, "God condemned those who worshipped a tree in the Old Testament." She said, "Christians do not worship the Christmas tree as an idol."


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Deport them all, tear them from their homes and friends.  But don't beat them.  That's immoral.  Damn, you're one crazy mo-fo, DoC.

Re-read what I said. You seemed to leave out the most crucial part of my sentence. I said, "atheists would live a life of no more, Christians, Catholics, Jews, Creationists, ID'ers, Muslims, Terrorists, Christian Scientists...etc,etc,etc. Why do you allow yourself to be tortured every day of your life in a country that is primarily Christianity and Islamic? The Jews fought for their own land, and won! Why don't the atheists do the same?

Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Idioteque on November 06, 2008, 10:45:09 AM
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Why don't the atheists do the same?

Because we're not about war. We're about trying to create peace, acceptance, and unity in society, and one of the ways we seek to do that is by removing (or discouraging) things that promote war, disunity, and bullying. 
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Freezykow on November 06, 2008, 03:59:29 PM
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Why don't the atheists do the same?

Because we're not about war. We're about trying to create peace, acceptance, and unity in society, and one of the ways we seek to do that is by removing (or discouraging) things that promote war, disunity, and bullying. 

The fact of the matter is not one group of people is dedicated to such things. Many say they are but no group as a whole is. Not Muslims, not Atheists, or even Christians.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Azdgari on November 06, 2008, 04:02:37 PM
Freezy, are you saying that just because you're a Christian, you don't automatically agree with DoC's opinion that all atheists should be exiled from America?
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Freezykow on November 06, 2008, 04:42:12 PM
Freezy, are you saying that just because you're a Christian, you don't automatically agree with DoC's opinion that all atheists should be exiled from America?

Uh...Duh.

I think none of you are evil. I think that only a hand full of people in the world are evil. Most likely some of them are Christian.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: L6 on November 06, 2008, 04:47:00 PM
We're about trying to create peace, acceptance, and unity in society, and one of the ways we seek to do that is by removing (or discouraging) things that promote war, disunity, and bullying. 
The fact of the matter is not one group of people is dedicated to such things. Many say they are but no group as a whole is. Not Muslims, not Atheists, or even Christians.
The problem is that conflict is always necessary to bring about peace, acceptance, and unity, and that it's often difficult to distinguish between people who are engaging in conflict to bring those about versus people who are engaging in conflict to selfishly benefit from the perpetuation of that conflict. The presence of religion in such conflicts amplifies this difficulty.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: singlecrochet on November 06, 2008, 04:52:40 PM
This topic has gotten way off base.  First we hear a horrid story about GoodKat being abused by his father all in the name of a "loving" religion and then what do we do?  We're bitching and griping about who said what in a different post, the migration of modern humans, how the Bible is falsifiable, and the great flood or the Bible.  I'm not trying to add fuel to the fire but we have other posts that talk about the flood.  This topic was GoodKat saying goodbye for a serious offense that should warrant the father nothing but a minimum jail sentence for assault.

I'm not trying to piss anyone off and I say this in the nicest tone, but please, don't gripe in this thread about trivial stuff when there are other threads for that.  This thread should not be for that.

THANK YOU!
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Davedave on November 06, 2008, 04:54:19 PM
But, but, isn't debating about this the first step in solving it?  I just know, somehow, that if someone just posted something a little bit better, that it would solve this problem.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: L6 on November 06, 2008, 05:27:47 PM
But, but, isn't debating about this the first step in solving it?  I just know, somehow, that if someone just posted something a little bit better, that it would solve this problem.
Field trip to Goodkat's house, then?
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: singlecrochet on November 06, 2008, 05:29:44 PM
I'll bring my handcuffs.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Davedave on November 06, 2008, 05:33:40 PM
Goodkat needs to learn to take care of himself, both physically and financially.  There is no meaningful atheist support network, which I suspect is because atheists mostly like to talk and talking doesn't lend much physical or financial support.  I will give him props for talking to his sister about religion.  I can't help but suspect a good, old-fashioned Homer Simpson choke-out might have put a hash mark in the "Religion is for crazy people" column for her, but who knows.  People are weird.  Anyway, this is a nice illustration of the vast amount of work atheists have before them in the world.  Maybe one or two people here will hear their calling in this story.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: rickymooston on November 19, 2008, 01:43:17 AM
I will not be posting here anymore, my father overheard me talking to my sister last night, and went into a fit  of rage. He shoved me into his room and yelled at me with his hand around my throat. He told me that I was using his money to slander Christ, and threatened several times to "beat the living s**t out of" me. He's taking my computer and forbidding me from talking to my sister to try to prevent her indoctrination. I will miss you all, and I hope I have been helpful to the forum. Goodbye


 GoodKat

Kid, this is pathetic.

Hope you move out soon.

Your dad does not, he's ensuring your non-christian path. jesus
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: rickymooston on November 19, 2008, 01:44:40 AM
Goodkat needs to learn to take care of himself, both physically and financially.  There is no meaningful atheist support network, which I suspect is because atheists mostly like to talk and talking doesn't lend much physical or financial support.  I will give him props for talking to his sister about religion.  I can't help but suspect a good, old-fashioned Homer Simpson choke-out might have put a hash mark in the "Religion is for crazy people" column for her, but who knows.  People are weird.  Anyway, this is a nice illustration of the vast amount of work atheists have before them in the world.  Maybe one or two people here will hear their calling in this story.

Hope he is o.k.

That kind of abusive atmosphere is horrible without family support

Why is he too dumb to merely go to the school library and post!!!

I mean, geez.

Anyway, hope you are right.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Davedave on November 19, 2008, 10:41:07 AM
I'd like to put him up for the Five Dollar Club, but I don't have any contact info for him.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: spider on November 30, 2008, 08:39:26 PM
Yeah, for sure - and if wants to move away from his psycho dad, five bucks here and there would go to a good cause. 

I thought about this the other day. I'd really like for him to make some kind of contact with someone from these forums.   The radio silence is worrying.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Hermes on November 30, 2008, 08:41:22 PM
Agreed.  I was hoping that Goodkat would login and give even a minor update; thumbs up or thumbs down.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Azdgari on November 30, 2008, 09:27:41 PM
You know, his E-mail is still in his profile (Ionz77@aol.com )...
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: rickymooston on November 30, 2008, 09:33:06 PM
You know, his E-mail is still in his profile (Ionz77@aol.com )...

But if his father has cut him off access ... not much point.

If his family was so strict, he could have been smarter; i.e., come here from school.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Azdgari on November 30, 2008, 09:44:10 PM
He is, nonetheless, more likely to gain access to his E-mail than he is to be able to visit this site.  It would only take one visit.

It is plausible that he will check his E-mail account at some point, for some reason or other.  Has anyone tried to E-mail him yet?
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: rickymooston on November 30, 2008, 10:16:43 PM
He is, nonetheless, more likely to gain access to his E-mail than he is to be able to visit this site.  It would only take one visit.

It is plausible that he will check his E-mail account at some point, for some reason or other.  Has anyone tried to E-mail him yet?

+1 sort of. I like your thinking.

Feel sorry for the "kid".

His dad is very strange, even for a theist ...
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: spider on December 02, 2008, 07:34:05 PM
Do you think his dad might read his emails?   Maybe I should not say too much in my email.  I have a lankyland email that identifies me as spider... I hope he knows who the hell I am. 

Do you reckon it's worth obfuscating where I'm from in case his dad does read it?  Or is that just silly?
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Davedave on December 02, 2008, 07:44:36 PM
That's what I did, but I have yet to receive a response.  I figured addressing him as Goodkat would suffice to alert him to where I was from.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: spider on December 02, 2008, 08:04:23 PM
Well I said I was spider from Theology Online (because he has an account there and he knows I do too from a thread on ATT) and signed off with "yours in christ". 
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Buster Fixxitt on December 03, 2008, 07:14:44 AM

Don't inflict the rest of us with the mental limitations you found yourself bearing.  Seeing as you believe that a Jewish zombie that was his own father had to arrange his own death so that an invisible part of our bodies could be cleansed of an invisible stain passed down over the generations because a talking snake convinced a woman to eat a magical piece of fruit, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't suggest that you have any familiarity with the upper boundaries of human intellect.

I think I just peed myself.  Thank you for that wonderfully vitriolic precis of christianity.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Buster Fixxitt on December 03, 2008, 07:22:56 AM
No 12 yearold could even understand the concept of theism or athesim.

"According to canon law for the Latin or Western Catholic Church, the sacrament is to be conferred on the faithful at about the age of discretion (generally taken to be about 7)."

"According to Jewish law, when Jewish children reach the age of majority (generally thirteen years for boys and twelve for girls) they become responsible for their actions, and "become a Bar or Bat Mitzvah." In many Conservative and Reform synagogues, girls celebrate their Bat Mitzvahs at age 13, along with boys. This also coincides with physical puberty.[1] Prior to this, the child's parents are responsible for the child's adherence to Jewish law and tradition, and after this age, children bear their own responsibility for Jewish ritual law, tradition, and ethics and are privileged to participate in all areas of Jewish community life."


Perhaps you would like to retract your statement?
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Atheist_Convert on December 03, 2008, 03:17:53 PM
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Perhaps you would like to retract your statement?

Nihilanth?
Don't hold your breath. His ignorance is surpassed only by his arrogance.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: rickymooston on December 03, 2008, 11:15:57 PM
No 12 yearold could even understand the concept of theism or athesim.

"According to canon law for the Latin or Western Catholic Church, the sacrament is to be conferred on the faithful at about the age of discretion (generally taken to be about 7)."

"According to Jewish law, when Jewish children reach the age of majority (generally thirteen years for boys and twelve for girls) they become responsible for their actions, and "become a Bar or Bat Mitzvah." In many Conservative and Reform synagogues, girls celebrate their Bat Mitzvahs at age 13, along with boys. This also coincides with physical puberty.[1] Prior to this, the child's parents are responsible for the child's adherence to Jewish law and tradition, and after this age, children bear their own responsibility for Jewish ritual law, tradition, and ethics and are privileged to participate in all areas of Jewish community life."


Perhaps you would like to retract your statement?

Salmon Rusdie was a confirmed Muslim at 14 and your point is ...?

I think, kids are not stupid but their oppinions are subject to change.

The rules you speak of might be directed towards keeping people within the faith in question ...?
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Buster Fixxitt on December 03, 2008, 11:49:44 PM
No 12 yearold could even understand the concept of theism or athesim.

"According to canon law for the Latin or Western Catholic Church, the sacrament is to be conferred on the faithful at about the age of discretion (generally taken to be about 7)."

"According to Jewish law, when Jewish children reach the age of majority (generally thirteen years for boys and twelve for girls) they become responsible for their actions, and "become a Bar or Bat Mitzvah." In many Conservative and Reform synagogues, girls celebrate their Bat Mitzvahs at age 13, along with boys. This also coincides with physical puberty.[1] Prior to this, the child's parents are responsible for the child's adherence to Jewish law and tradition, and after this age, children bear their own responsibility for Jewish ritual law, tradition, and ethics and are privileged to participate in all areas of Jewish community life."


Perhaps you would like to retract your statement?

Salmon Rusdie was a confirmed Muslim at 14 and your point is ...?

I think, kids are not stupid but their oppinions are subject to change.

The rules you speak of might be directed towards keeping people within the faith in question ...?

Sorry, my bad.  I inferred a rebuttal without clearly stating it.

My point is that obviously some religions have decided that a 12 year old has the capacity to understand theism.  Which is in direct opposition to your claim.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Doubting Thomas on December 04, 2008, 01:25:53 AM
I will not be posting here anymore, my father overheard me talking to my sister last night, and went into a fit  of rage. He shoved me into his room and yelled at me with his hand around my throat. He told me that I was using his money to slander Christ, and threatened several times to "beat the living s**t out of" me. He's taking my computer and forbidding me from talking to my sister to try to prevent her indoctrination. I will miss you all, and I hope I have been helpful to the forum. Goodbye


 GoodKat

Sometimes I think to myself I am absolutely happy I have no aggrevations in my life for sure!
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Davedave on December 04, 2008, 11:19:34 AM
My point is that obviously some religions have decided that a 12 year old has the capacity to understand theism.  Which is in direct opposition to your claim.

I thought it was an excellent point, and made clearly enough for me.  One thing, though.  It wasn't originally Ricky's claim.  It was originally nihilanth's claim.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Buster Fixxitt on December 04, 2008, 01:16:23 PM
My point is that obviously some religions have decided that a 12 year old has the capacity to understand theism.  Which is in direct opposition to your claim.

I thought it was an excellent point, and made clearly enough for me.  One thing, though.  It wasn't originally Ricky's claim.  It was originally nihilanth's claim.

Ack! My bad. Ricky, I apologize for claiming incorrectly that you were the originator of the claim that 'no 12 year old is capable of understanding theism/atheism.'  I was wrong.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: nihilanth on December 06, 2008, 08:23:24 PM
Actually I stand by that claim. A 12 year old may inderstand the definition, but does not understand the implications or the deeper meaning of both.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Buster Fixxitt on December 06, 2008, 09:35:33 PM
Actually I stand by that claim. A 12 year old may inderstand the definition, but does not understand the implications or the deeper meaning of both.

Care to share at what age the magic of understanding the deeper meaning of atheism/theism occurs?
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: rickymooston on December 07, 2008, 01:07:30 AM
My point is that obviously some religions have decided that a 12 year old has the capacity to understand theism.  Which is in direct opposition to your claim.

I thought it was an excellent point, and made clearly enough for me.  One thing, though.  It wasn't originally Ricky's claim.  It was originally nihilanth's claim.

True.

Ricky's counter point was that while he thinks that kids understand more than we give them credit fo, that some religions have a non-refund clause (they kill apostates)  nobody should be held accountable for the choices that they make at such a young age.  Salmon Rusdie, being born in Pakistan, was raised a Muslim.  At 14, he thought it was a reasonable faith. He signed up.  Now, a famous writer with more knowledge of history and such, he changed his mind.    Because he signed up at 14, many extremists believe that it is o.k. to kill him for his apostacy.    I consider that a bit unfair.  (Of course, I consider killing apostates and heretics unfair as well.)

My 9 year old niece has a pretty good understanding.


I'm more than o.k. with a 12 year old reading about theism and atheism.  I'm not o.k. with them being taken advantage of tho.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Operator_013 on December 07, 2008, 07:48:00 AM
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Perhaps you would like to retract your statement?

Nihilanth?
Don't hold your breath. His ignorance is surpassed only by his arrogance.

AC, please keep it civil.

Thirteen
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Azdgari on December 07, 2008, 11:00:52 AM
Actually I stand by that claim. A 12 year old may inderstand the definition, but does not understand the implications or the deeper meaning of both.

So when you said this:

No 12 yearold could even understand the concept of theism or athesim.

...you were lying?  Or just wrong?  Despite your stated intention to run away of my posts (which I take as a compliment), I think you owe me a response to this one, given that it was directed at me in the first place.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: spider on December 07, 2008, 04:10:02 PM
I got a response from Goodkat's email.  I say from Goodkat's email because I don't think Goodkat actually wrote it. Or if he did, he was under supervision, being told what he could respond with. 

All the response said was "I have been forbade from discussing religious subjects on forums by my Christian parents."

Shit.  I don't know what to do now.  Davedave, did you get the same thing? 
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: jetson on December 07, 2008, 06:10:02 PM
I got a response from Goodkat's email.  I say from Goodkat's email because I don't think Goodkat actually wrote it. Or if he did, he was under supervision, being told what he could respond with. 

All the response said was "I have been forbade from discussing religious subjects on forums by my Christian parents."

s**t.  I don't know what to do now.  Davedave, did you get the same thing? 

I think Goodkat will be just fine.  Parent's cannot hold their reign forever, and Goodkat is not likely to be swayed by force into anything.  Of course, I don't know Goodkat personally, but I have a suspicion that things will work out.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Nick on December 07, 2008, 06:15:24 PM
Remember that movie "Stepford Wives"?  They could have rewired his brain!!!
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: jetson on December 07, 2008, 06:17:55 PM
Remember that movie "Stepford Wives"?  They could have rewired his brain!!!

Yikes!
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: rickymooston on December 07, 2008, 06:22:48 PM
All the response said was "I have been forbade from discussing religious subjects on forums by my Christian parents."

Based on the formality of the response, I'd say, his dad answered his e-mail.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: spider on December 07, 2008, 06:48:58 PM
Yeah, I guess it probably will work out okay, but when I was 18 I left home due to problems with my mother (not religiously but similar sort of situation to this) and it was a bit rough.  Among other things, for about a month I had to sleep on a couch at my uni and sometimes in other places in the city.  Turning out okay is one thing, but having support through it is pretty important and it's still a bit worrisome when you don't hear anything and have no idea just how bad things have gotten for him.

Especially when your dad likes to wrap his fat hands around your neck when he's angry.

Yeah, I agree with ricky, it must have been his dad responding.  Either that or Goodkat knows his dad is screening his emails and has to give a standard response in order to avoid another throttling.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: jetson on December 07, 2008, 06:51:50 PM
It's odd that he hasn't found a cafe or used a friends computer to respond, but perhaps his dad is tech-savvy enough to track activity.  If that is the case, he may even be reading this thread.

Parents can suck, when they want to.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: rickymooston on December 07, 2008, 07:52:52 PM
It's odd that he hasn't found a cafe or used a friends computer to respond, but perhaps his dad is tech-savvy enough to track activity.  If that is the case, he may even be reading this thread.

Parents can suck, when they want to.

Probably his dad is reading the thread lol.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: spider on December 07, 2008, 08:03:24 PM
Good.  I hope he does read this forum.  He's going to be pretty lonely once he finishes alienating his children, and I'd like him to remember exactly whose fault that is.   Maybe this thread will illuminate that for him.

But hey, what's a little bit of family dysfunction and domestic violence once you get to Heaven, right?    I'm so glad that Goodkat's parents have Jesus in their life to show them how to love.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Buster Fixxitt on December 07, 2008, 08:23:01 PM
Good.  I hope he does read this forum.  He's going to be pretty lonely once he finishes alienating his children, and I'd like him to remember exactly whose fault that is.   Maybe this thread will illuminate that for him.

But hey, what's a little bit of family dysfunction and domestic violence once you get to Heaven, right?    I'm so glad that Goodkat's parents have Jesus in their life to show them how to love.

Well, if Goodkat's father is anything like my Christian Uncle, his family in the here and now 'mean nothing to him, his real life is the one he'll have with God.  Jesus is all that matters."

He's the guy who will usually go up to the bereaved at funerals and say stuff like "You are so lucky. It must be so wonderful to know *insert name* is with God. He's so lucky to be dead." etc.

He didn't say anything like that to me at my daughter's funeral, though.  He probably knows I've been waiting my whole life for an excuse to punch his adam's apple from an 'outy' to an 'inney'.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Davedave on December 08, 2008, 10:56:31 AM
I got a response from Goodkat's email.  I say from Goodkat's email because I don't think Goodkat actually wrote it. Or if he did, he was under supervision, being told what he could respond with. 

All the response said was "I have been forbade from discussing religious subjects on forums by my Christian parents."

Shit.  I don't know what to do now.  Davedave, did you get the same thing? 

I haven't gotten a response.  If he's not clever enough to reach out to people that are offering to help him, then we probably couldn't have helped him anyway.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Agent_007 on December 23, 2008, 11:49:49 PM
It is unfortunate that he isn't in a position to respond more positively.



Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: nihilanth on January 12, 2009, 11:32:29 PM
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Perhaps you would like to retract your statement?

Nihilanth?
Don't hold your breath. His ignorance is surpassed only by his arrogance.

AC, please keep it civil.

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Don't hold your breath. : )

Folks around here are rarely civil, it's the reason I no longer post.

Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: nihilanth on January 12, 2009, 11:33:23 PM
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Perhaps you would like to retract your statement?

Nihilanth?
Don't hold your breath. His ignorance is surpassed only by his arrogance.

Go fuck yourself.  ;D
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Azdgari on January 13, 2009, 07:52:19 PM
Folks around here are rarely civil, it's the reason I no longer post.

Isn't there something self-contradictory about coming back on here to post a bunch of stuff about not posting anymore?

And looking over those posts, it's mainly you who are breaking civility.  Some of your recent posts have been a regular flame-fest.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Atheist_Convert on January 13, 2009, 08:14:35 PM
Folks around here are rarely civil, it's the reason I no longer post.

Isn't there something self-contradictory about coming back on here to post a bunch of stuff about not posting anymore?

And looking over those posts, it's mainly you who are breaking civility.  Some of your recent posts have been a regular flame-fest.

No shit! This guy has threatened to leave and then resurrected more times the DoC. If you look at his last two posts, the second to last one was a claim of leaving never to return, then, there's another post. Too funny. I'm sure he'll be back and tell us both to fuck off.
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Tails_155 on January 13, 2009, 09:40:16 PM
now that you've said that, it'll probably be worded differently... and now that I've said that he may not...
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Star Stuff on January 13, 2009, 11:56:42 PM
Reminds me of some guy who promised to return, but never did.  Hmmm.....
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Buster Fixxitt on January 13, 2009, 11:58:27 PM
Reminds me of some guy who promised to return, but never did.  Hmmm.....

Long hair? Lots of 'crazy' ideas?



Drove that blue car?
Title: Re: Saying Goodbye.
Post by: Operator_013 on January 14, 2009, 03:15:03 PM
Don't hold your breath. : )

Folks around here are rarely civil, it's the reason I no longer post.

That's what the report link is for, if all else fails. :)

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