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Title: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on August 29, 2011, 07:49:48 AM
To save and share classics like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUq2d2OFRkk
Ban a book about book banning - during national banned book week - a week to raise awareness about the drooling morons who ban books.

Or the more recent Schatzes and their child rearing that was inspired by http://nogreaterjoy.org
http://notabletrials.blogspot.com/2010/07/schatz-trial-date-set-no-word-on.html

There is ALWAYS something in the news involving stupid religious people doing stupid things for their stupid religions.  Some exorcism that kills someone.  Murder & mayhem.  Corporal punishment gone wild (as above).  Mental illness.  Exploitation.  Rape victim stonings. 

All of this great content is simply lost in the noise.  There's always some celebritard who vomited on themselves to gobble up the public's attention.

A list of links to the most recent, heinous religiously motivated deeds needs to exist.  Not only because it's interesting reading, but because it's evidence of what base ignorance religion really is, in the face of all of the 'my religion never does wrong' retards out there.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: screwtape on August 29, 2011, 03:23:43 PM
when I find stories like that in boards I moderate, I move them to Religion & Society. So that is sort of the "Religion in the News" depository.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on August 29, 2011, 10:36:02 PM
Yes, but in doing so but dillute the news with non-news items.  Chatter & fluff and random opinion, which isn't factual news.

Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: screwtape on August 30, 2011, 07:44:35 AM
We have a section for Chatter & fluff.  We call it "Chatter".  If Religion & Society is getting cluttered up with Chatter & Fluff, I recommend you harass the board mods to do some house cleaning.

That is my two bits, anyway, and I am certainly not the final word.  Pony & HAL may see it otherwise and grant a "Religion in the Nude" section for you.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: jedweber on August 30, 2011, 05:12:12 PM
I liked having a Religion in the News section, too. It was a very handy place to post interesting news items that might not necessarily require a lot of discussion. Especially quirky little offbeat items. I saw Religion and Society as a place for more "important" topics for discussion.  Now I end up having to dump many news items in there by default.  Didn't we used to have a "Politics" (or "Religion and Politics"?) section, too? The political items end up getting dumped in Religion and Society, too. 

Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: LadyLucy on September 05, 2011, 11:09:58 PM
Relevant to the video posted: Damn, THAT'S where I came from. And I KNOW that high school. Damn. I had no clue some idiot girl actually thought that book needs to be banned. I love Ray Bradbury's short stories. I have yet to read Farenheit 451, but it's on the list on "Books that need to be fully read before I die." I'm glad students stood up for that book and didn't let some overly-sensitive religious nut get rid of one of the more influential books.

The idea of "Religion in the News": Yes please. I have to keep scrolling through all the little tid-bits of ideas, chatter, and contemplation in order to get the news section.  :D
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on September 05, 2011, 11:27:44 PM
AND it would be a way to actively solicit news sharing.  After all, though searches can find certain kinds of religiously based violence and insanity all the time, all kinds of other things one might never thing to SEARCH for happen all the time, and could be easily missed unless someone stumbles across a story and mentions it.

And it's not as if this is the only forum in the world.  In debates with theistic trollers, it's fun to keep them off balance with REAL WORLD events done in the name of their favorite gods.

You know, the fun way a 'REAL CHRISTIAN' is no longer a 'REAL CHRISTIAN' when they do something horrible, but, you know, they get forgiven, so then they're a 'REAL CHRISTIAN' again?

Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on September 06, 2011, 01:01:08 AM

God: "You're welcome!"

An example of the kind of news story you either find at random, or because someone shared it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2031530/Spanish-man-pilgrimage-thanks-recovery-car-crash-run-killed-mile-journey.html

Searching for 'exorcism' always yields tragedies.  A google news 'feed' that searches a term like this will routinely find this kind of nonsense.

http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20110816/LOCAL03/308169967

'Stoning' always yields results, too.  Not always what you'd expect.

http://www.dailygamecock.com/news/item/1891-students-stone-usc-pastafarians-on-greene-street

Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on September 06, 2011, 01:21:04 AM
More kinds of news searches...

"God told me" Yields all kinds of crap.  From plain stupidity to excuses for murder.
http://news.google.com/search?q=god+told+me&hl=en&sa=G&tbm=nws&tbs=ar:1&tbo=u&ei=mbtlTp-TB6bYiALinbjPCg&ved=0CI4BEIIB

Death + God yields up lots of stuff, too.  But like anything else, you have to scrounge a bit.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jGngkON9x9_hVUBZATzMBiQf93mw?docId=d419dc214abc4d4b869f10f6d76d4183

Apostasy usually yields up a lot of islamic idiocy.  They take it awfully seriously.

Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on September 06, 2011, 02:26:03 AM
Rick Perry tells Texas to pray for rain
http://www.texastribune.org/texas-state-agencies/governors-office/texas-governor-declares-weekend-of-prayer-for-rain/

Prayer answered!
http://www.statesman.com/news/catastrophic-fires-burn-thousands-of-acres-force-evacuations-1820174.html


If elected president, Rick Perry will also pray for the economy, world peace and energy independence.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: kin hell on September 06, 2011, 03:25:45 AM
Agreed

a specific repository for real world examples of religion at work could not be a bad thing.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: Chronos on September 06, 2011, 08:40:38 PM
Yay! for the students who are petitioning to keep the book. I wish the student who spoke on camera would have added "and all those jesus freaks can go speak in tongues at church instead of sticking their foots in the mouths at our school."  But, of course, something so brash can't be said in Texas ... well, something so brash against religion cannot be said in Texas.


Father:  "... god's name in vain ..."  I would love for someone to dig up a video of that same father repeatedly taking the god's name in vain



On a side note, I spent a wonderful day at Lake Conroe relaxing on a boat ride around the lake, swimming, eating, drinking ... all on a lazy day. I had no opportunity to soak up the local culture of Conroe, but the entire place is loaded with churches.

Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on September 17, 2011, 07:57:11 PM
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10751998

Born-again Christian Worthy Redeemed has been found guilty of manslaughter after three people were killed when he grabbed the wheel of a car and steered it into the path of an oncoming bus.

I'm sure he's all forgiven 'n stuff.  He's repentent, for sure.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: kin hell on September 17, 2011, 11:19:41 PM
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10751998

Born-again Christian Worthy Redeemed has been found guilty of manslaughter after three people were killed when he grabbed the wheel of a car and steered it into the path of an oncoming bus.

I'm sure he's all forgiven 'n stuff.  He's repentent, for sure.

...from the witness being asked 13 times whether he was mistaken it appears Worthy Redeemed is arguing that he never grabbed the wheel  (even though previously elsewhere he had done exactly that)   

Amazing how free with the truth these knobrots are.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on September 17, 2011, 11:33:36 PM
Well, you know it's not 'lying' if they BEELEEVZ it!
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on September 17, 2011, 11:41:16 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/michele-bachmann-tells-jay-leno-shes-convicted-in-her-views/

Michele Backmann - Well, lots of retarded shit.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on September 17, 2011, 11:43:30 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/09/eight-amish-men-jailed-over-orange-safety-triangles/
Orange safety triangles are 'immodest'.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on September 17, 2011, 11:46:23 PM
http://www.iloubnan.info/technology/actualite/id/66400/titre/FBI-training-material-racist-against-muslims-exposed

FBI being trained by fundies to be bigoted 'tards.  I feel safer already.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: Nam on September 19, 2011, 02:12:42 PM
I agree with the others about a "Religon in the News" section; it's really something to add if not already added.

-Nam
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: thunderridge on September 19, 2011, 04:52:41 PM
Religion in the news.   Yes,  add it.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on September 19, 2011, 09:59:53 PM
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/asiapacific/news/article_1663708.php/Bogus-Indonesian-healer-jailed-for-raping-Malaysian-teenager

I'm here to rape exorcise your child!  Isn't 'bogus healer' redundant?

http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20110917/LOCAL03/309179985/1002/LOCAL

30 Years for Fatal 'exorcism'.  And then they stuffed the little boy's body into a plastic bag for a year.  Sounds like the usual religiously inspired child abuse gone wrong...er.

Quote
Believing Jezaih was possessed by a demon, the women gathered all their children in the living room of their apartment on Hobson Road. Each of the children was given a concoction of olive oil and vinegar. The older children threw up after drinking the mix, but Jezaih fought every effort to get him to swallow it, according to testimony.

According to court documents, Hawkins held the toddler’s legs and said a prayer while Latisha Lawson poured it down his throat, holding his mouth closed so he couldn’t spit it out.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: oversee on September 23, 2011, 04:25:01 PM
Thanks for posting the story about the Spanish pilgrim being hit by a car.
I think there are far too many stories about religion in the news to post them all. Personally I appreciate the outrageous and ironic stories.
Isn't olive oil and vinegar a recipe for salad dressing? I wonder where they got the idea that it would work for exorcism too.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on September 23, 2011, 09:16:36 PM
Maybe demons don't like salad?

But I doubt anyone could down salad dressing and not feel a wee bit sick.

Probably pickling vinegar and cheap olive oil, anyway.  I'm thinking costco sized and walmart quality.

One thing in common with most of these 'exorcisms' is the overriding need to HURT the 'possessed person'.  Even if you KILL THEM, it's better than being possessed by da devil 'n stuff.

For every one that's caught, dozens do serious harm and 'faith heal' the broken bones, brain damage, etc. away... from any hospital that would ask any inconvenient questions.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: oversee on September 24, 2011, 02:29:45 AM
Just like the Salem witch trials.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 02, 2011, 02:22:43 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/war-of-words-breaks-out-among-jehovahs-witnesses-2361448.html

Discord among the Watchtower weenies!
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 02, 2011, 02:30:59 PM
RC Planes For Allah!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/national-security/mass-man-accused-of-plotting-to-hit-pentagon-and-capitol-with-drone-aircraft/2011/09/28/gIQAWdpk5K_story.html?hpid=z2

This is retarded on so many levels.

Target: Pick the IRS, and all those right-wingers who hate ALL Muslims would be cheering the effort.

Method: RC Planes?  Even with big ones, PACKED with explosives, these would most likely cause relatively little damage to the pentagon.  It's a big, solidly built building.  Go rent a REAL plane, load it up with whatever you like, and fly it into the building yourself.  Bug smashers are utterly unregulated, and one REAL airplane would do more damage then 20 RC planes, assuming you could reach the target.

Help: You know, just like trying to hire a 'hit man', if you go asking people for 'explosives', you're going to meet cops.  This idiot was allegedly well educated, but couldn't figure out how to make explosives for himself.

Cause: No cause helped whatsoever.  Blowing random people and things up only pisses people off.  You get on the news?  You could get on the news in AMERICA any number of ways NOT involving carnage.  Just open a fucking 'No Blood For Oil' organization, with OFFICES, and those self same offices will be routinely vandalized and attacked.  You know, just troll retards and keep the moral high ground.

Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 02, 2011, 02:52:34 PM
http://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2011/09/30/paramedics-save-unborn-baby-after-pregnant-woman-shot-dead-in-church-in-spain/

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/10/01/maniac-kills-pregnant-woman-in-church-and-her-baby-is-delivered-on-the-floor-115875-23457931/

Miracle Baby!

Mom prays for baby's well being, gets capped. 

Will we get the update about the baby's actual condition?  Little Alvero wasn't born with a heartbeat.  It isn't clear how long mom was laying there with no pulse.  Paramedics managed to get his heart started after they cut open his mom on the church floor.  It has been roughly three days since the incident, and no update on his condition. 

I hope for the best for the baby, but does having your mom's brains blown out while in church praying for your welfare count as a 'miracle'?  Never mind (very likely) suffering brain damage in the process.

Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 02, 2011, 02:56:34 PM
In other 'miracle' news...

Human heart tissue on communion wafer!  Yummy!
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/02/ap/europe/main20114504.shtml

Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: kin hell on October 02, 2011, 03:16:27 PM
In other 'miracle' news...

Human heart tissue on communion wafer!  Yummy!
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/02/ap/europe/main20114504.shtml



All the easier to drive a stake through zombie jesus' heart.

Stupid stupid monkeys...............
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 02, 2011, 06:35:32 PM
Another great day for exorcisms!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8792357/Teenage-girl-dies-in-Japan-exorcism.html
See?  Take your daughter to the monks, and all the other problems will go away!

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i5dAKspxaJL4UGRwIeMoowpENxlg?docId=060c0b7015224b18bbe826cb37c9a19a
Islamic exorcisms on the rise!  Faith healing!  It's not just for Christians wackos anymore!
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 02, 2011, 10:49:20 PM
Quote the bibble, get a discount.

http://tumblr.thedailywh.at/post/10959530596/jesus-saves-of-the-day-the-owner-of-an-auto-shop

16 So liek teh Ceiling Kitteh lieks teh ppl lots and he sez 'Oh hai I givez u me only kitteh and ifs u beleeves him u wont evr diez no moar, kthxbai!'
http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=John_3
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: oversee on October 03, 2011, 01:13:20 AM
Quote the bibble, get a discount.

http://tumblr.thedailywh.at/post/10959530596/jesus-saves-of-the-day-the-owner-of-an-auto-shop

16 So liek teh Ceiling Kitteh lieks teh ppl lots and he sez 'Oh hai I givez u me only kitteh and ifs u beleeves him u wont evr diez no moar, kthxbai!'
http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=John_3
Is there a LOL cat to English translator?
I bet more people speak LOL cat than Klingon.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 03, 2011, 06:28:10 PM
http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 03, 2011, 09:36:40 PM
Mark 9:47
And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2044605/Horrific-scenes-British-born-worshipper-tears-eyes-Mass-BARE-HANDS.html
Title: Sunday School Teacher Gets Off...
Post by: pingnak on October 03, 2011, 09:59:24 PM
... scott free for pasting the faces of children onto adult bodies engaged in explicit acts.
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/09/florida_court_rules_pasting_ki.php
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 05, 2011, 08:45:18 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/10/01/2011-10-01_washington_couple_held_in_death_of_adopted_daughter_13yearold_hana_williams.html

Possibly another story like the Schatzes.  Adopted African children abused.  TO DEATH.

Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 06, 2011, 08:04:37 PM
Westboro to picket Steve Jobs' funeral.  You know, on general principle!
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20116880-71/church-leader-tweets-picket-of-jobs-funeral-via-iphone/

Sends a tweet from an iPhone to announce it.

Further honors!
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: kin hell on October 06, 2011, 09:58:45 PM
pingnak  you are doing a superb job with this unofficial stickie  an endless source of delight and horror, of despair and wonder.   

Come on mods  can we please have some feed back regarding an official religion in the news section
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 07, 2011, 12:23:51 AM
Florida: Did Jesus Die for ET?

http://www.examiner.com/space-news-in-national/did-jesus-die-for-et-starship-symposium-asks-decidedly-odd-question

Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 07, 2011, 12:28:16 AM
Blow Me Down!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/should-our-bodies-become-bullets-after-death/2011/10/06/gIQAlw0oQL_story.html

“I will rest in peace knowing that the last thing that turkey will see is me screaming at him at about 900 feet per second,” says Parnell, 59.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 07, 2011, 12:33:48 AM
http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-police-mother-arrested-after-killing-dog-in-exorcism-ritual-20111003,0,7789052.column

The uncle told police his nephews said their mother drowned the family dog in a bucket of water and then sliced open the dog’s stomach to remove the insides.  The uncle said the boys further stated their mother performed an exorcism on the dog, because she believed the dog was possessed by something evil.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: Mr. Blackwell on October 07, 2011, 12:41:13 AM
http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-police-mother-arrested-after-killing-dog-in-exorcism-ritual-20111003,0,7789052.column

The uncle told police his nephews said their mother drowned the family dog in a bucket of water and then sliced open the dog’s stomach to remove the insides.  The uncle said the boys further stated their mother performed an exorcism on the dog, because she believed the dog was possessed by something evil.

This one is a little off the mark.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: Mr. Blackwell on October 07, 2011, 12:44:46 AM
Quote
For about $850, a customer will receive 250 shotgun shells, 100 rifle cartridges or 250 pistol cartridges packed with the deceased’s ashes.

*coughs* bullshit

Keep your eye on this story...not long from now we will learn that they just dumped the bodies and sold the family's regular bullets at a premium.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: oversee on October 07, 2011, 02:58:00 AM
Blow Me Down!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/should-our-bodies-become-bullets-after-death/2011/10/06/gIQAlw0oQL_story.html

“I will rest in peace knowing that the last thing that turkey will see is me screaming at him at about 900 feet per second,” says Parnell, 59.
What does he have against the turkey?
 “We want to give people an alternative to celebrate a person’s life.”
Oh what joy in packing my relatives ashes into shotgun shells.
It is amazing how creative people can get in creating new ways to make money.
I want to be turned into fertilizer so that I can literally be pushing up the daisies.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: oversee on October 07, 2011, 03:01:42 AM
http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-police-mother-arrested-after-killing-dog-in-exorcism-ritual-20111003,0,7789052.column

The uncle told police his nephews said their mother drowned the family dog in a bucket of water and then sliced open the dog’s stomach to remove the insides.  The uncle said the boys further stated their mother performed an exorcism on the dog, because she believed the dog was possessed by something evil.
I knew a woman who was found trying to drown her children because they were possessed by the devil, who was really our preschool teacher. I saw her a year later shopping at the grocery. I guess God and the state forgave her.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: naemhni on October 07, 2011, 06:19:39 AM
What does he have against the turkey?

Probably nothing, actually.  More likely, it's just that he has a love of hunting.  I can kind of understand this.  It's kind of like the New Horizons probe that's on its way to Pluto... Clyde Tombaugh, the man who discovered Pluto, was also cremated, and there's a small vial of his ashes on the probe.  I'm sure he would have liked that.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: Historicity on October 07, 2011, 07:09:51 AM
I want to be turned into fertilizer so that I can literally be pushing up the daisies.
Doable!  See:
Stiff: The Curious Lives of Human Cadavers (http://www.amazon.com/Stiff-Curious-Lives-Human-Cadavers/dp/0393324826/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1317987070&sr=8-1) (2004) by Mary Roach.

In one of the last chapters she traveled to Sweden to meet an ecoactivist who is dealing with 2 problems:  (1) Not enough land for graveyards; (2) Cremation releases toxic amounts of mercury from people's teeth.

The answer is (and it is in practice, not just a proposal) to freeze dry the body and shatter it with ultrasound.  Then the remains are put in a small cardboard coffin and a memorial tree is planted over it.  Someday parents can take the children to go look at the great grandmother tree.


Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 07, 2011, 03:01:43 PM
http://www.google.com/search?q=green+burial

If you want to compost and be nibbled away by bugs and whatnot, as nature intended, that's do-able, too.

Though they won't feed you to a tiger or wolves or hyenas, vultures, etc. or anything like that, as nature ALSO intended.

Or if you want cremation, but the fire and smoke and pollution makes you queasy, there's always 'resomation', though that's not available everywhere.

Or plastination.

Or you can donate your body to science.  Most of them want to chop it up and send the pieces to various labs.  Hips to hip replacement.  Eyes to another place.  Arms to another place.  Legs to another place.  After a few months, your family can get some cremains that they can pretend were yours.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWWg5shNWR4
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: oversee on October 08, 2011, 03:20:55 PM
What does he have against the turkey?

Probably nothing, actually.  More likely, it's just that he has a love of hunting.  I can kind of understand this.  It's kind of like the New Horizons probe that's on its way to Pluto... Clyde Tombaugh, the man who discovered Pluto, was also cremated, and there's a small vial of his ashes on the probe.  I'm sure he would have liked that.
I can understand thinking that your remains will permanently become part of Pluto. But in the case of the turkey, someone is going to eat that turkey and throw what's left of the bullet in the trash.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: oversee on October 08, 2011, 03:39:29 PM
http://www.google.com/search?q=green+burial

If you want to compost and be nibbled away by bugs and whatnot, as nature intended, that's do-able, too.

Though they won't feed you to a tiger or wolves or hyenas, vultures, etc. or anything like that, as nature ALSO intended.

Or if you want cremation, but the fire and smoke and pollution makes you queasy, there's always 'resomation', though that's not available everywhere.

Or plastination.

Or you can donate your body to science.  Most of them want to chop it up and send the pieces to various labs.  Hips to hip replacement.  Eyes to another place.  Arms to another place.  Legs to another place.  After a few months, your family can get some cremains that they can pretend were yours.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWWg5shNWR4
The appeal of donating your body to science is that it is free.
How many people really care where their remains end up? The religious people think that their soul has gone to heaven so why do they care what happens to their body?

Resomation is only available in Florida. Afterwards, your remains end up in the sewer system.
Turning dead bodies into animal food is an interesting idea. Some people think that once an animal has a taste of human flesh, they will start attacking the living because we are so delicious.

The idea of having my body slowly nibbled away by bugs is not appealing which is why I would rather be cremated, but after that, I don't really care what happens to the ashes.
If you are concerned about the environment, although cremation may pollute the air, it is preferable because you are not permanently taking up a piece of land that could be used in a more productive way.
I wouldn't keep a container of a dead person's ashes in my home, no matter how much the person meant to me when they were alive.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: kin hell on October 11, 2011, 03:43:38 AM
While catching up on the damningly under reported Occupy wall Street

http://www.amny.com/urbanite-1.812039/occupy-wall-street-set-to-march-to-ues-against-millionaires-1.3235180 (http://www.amny.com/urbanite-1.812039/occupy-wall-street-set-to-march-to-ues-against-millionaires-1.3235180)

I noticed a certain cynicism expressed regarding the visits to the protests by various celebrities.
There was an awareness of the possible value of celebrity backing, but in parallel a very real understanding that most of the high end earning celebs solidarity may well be  opportunistic posturing


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Celebrity image and marketing consultant Adam Kluger said the recent trips to Zuccotti Park by pop culture icons is likely “political posturing.”

“When celebrities go somewhere, they have an agenda and they’re trying to get behind something or someone,” he said. “They can be very opportunistic. If they can see a chance to use their popularity for good or for their own personal interest, they generally do it.”

and then I read

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The Rev. Al Sharpton was also at the park yesterday to record his syndicated radio show, “Keepin’ it Real.”

and every thing about it just cracked me up   right down to the sublimely ironic "Keepin' it Real"

particularly when the earliest philosophical position of the OWS crew was a very loud outcry at the lack of taxation of the uberwealthy, and Sharpton, displaying exemplary Christian ethics (render unto Ceasar, thou shalt not steal, and all that).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Sharpton#Tax_issues
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Sharpton#Tax_issues)
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On May 9, 2008, the Associated Press reported that Sharpton and his businesses owed almost $1.5 million in unpaid taxes and penalties. Sharpton owed $931,000 in federal income tax and $366,000 to New York, and his for-profit company, Rev. Al Communications, owed another $176,000 to the state.[9]
On June 19, 2008, the New York Post reported that the Internal Revenue Service had sent subpoenas to several corporations that had donated to Sharpton's National Action Network. In 2007 New York State Attorney General Andrew Cuomo began investigating the National Action Network, because it failed to make proper financial reports, as required for non-profits.[84] According to the Post, several major corporations, including Anheuser-Busch and Colgate-Palmolive, have donated thousands of dollars to the National Action Network. The Post asserted that the donations were made to prevent boycotts or rallies by the National Action Network.[85]
Sharpton countered the investigative actions with a charge that they reflected a political agenda by United States agencies.[86]
On September 29, 2010, Robert Snell of the Detroit News reported that the Internal Revenue Service had filed a notice of federal tax lien against Sharpton in New York City in the amount of over $538,000.[87] Sharpton's lawyer asserts that the notice of federal tax lien relates to Sharpton's year 2009 federal income tax return, the due date of which has been extended to October 15, 2010, according to the lawyer. However, the Snell report states that the lien relates to taxes assessed during 2009.[88]


opportunistic, insensitive and hypocritical thief     Keepin it real
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 13, 2011, 08:43:36 PM
IMHO, just take a flat tax.

The 1040 should be three lines:

Enter gross income.
Multiply by (tax rate).  If the tax rate is 10%, that would be Income x 1.10.
Pay that much.

If you made $10 all year, your tax burden would be $1.

If you made $10,000, your tax burden would be $1,000.

If you made $100,000, your tax burden would be $10,000.

If you made $1,000,000, your tax burden would be $100,000.

If you're married, filing jointly, you add your income together, multiply by (tax rate), and there's your bill.

SIMPLE.

And don't withhold.  Let the wage slaves SEE how much they're paying.  FEEL IT, come April 15th.  Write that big, fat check and watch it fall, fall, fall into the mailbox.  Being self-employed, you bet your arse I feel it when I write a check big enough to buy a new car, seal it in the envelope and hand the envelope over to the person at the post office, and get nothing but the 'reward' of not being thrown into prison at gunpoint this year.  Oh, and then do the same thing with a slightly smaller check, big enough for a new computer or some kind of appliance or major home electronics for the state.  Not to mention the property taxes, sales taxes, layers of utility and communications taxes, etc.

Too many idiots over-withhold and get a check back, and literally believe that they're receiving 'free money' from the government, when they're only receiving THE EXCESS MONEY that they already paid the government, that the government enjoyed all year long, while they didn't.  There are WAY better saving plans that earn INTEREST.

Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 13, 2011, 10:35:18 PM
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/french-teacher-self-immolates-over-rowdy-pupils/story-e6frg6so-1226166539686

French Teacher Self Immolates

Karim, a pupil, said: "It was a vision of the apocalypse. It seemed totally strange and unreal. I saw a body on fire going forward with her hands on her head. Several of us tried to put it out. She kept saying, 'No, leave me, I don't need your help. God told me to do this'.
Title: A Little Light Therapy
Post by: pingnak on October 13, 2011, 10:44:31 PM
http://triblocal.com/elgin/2011/09/28/minister-investigated-for-naked-rituals-with-followers-in-elgin/

Calling it “light therapy,” the minister, Philip Livingston, testified in a Kane County case that he repeatedly performed the naked ritual — claiming it helped cure everything from drug addictions to yeast infections. He said it was done only with consenting adults who were members of his donor-funded Light of the World Ministries. But one participant testified that a teenage girl was involved too.

Added:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-naked-minister-20110928,0,670397.story
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 13, 2011, 10:51:36 PM
http://www.kwtx.com/news/headlines/Cain__God_Told_Me_To_Run_131485348.html?ref=348

'God' tells another Republican to run.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 13, 2011, 11:03:01 PM
http://www.getreligion.org/

This site is about religion in the news.  After reading it for a bit, I can't decide whether it's pro/anti/neutral (which is actually promising for a site about news), but it is interesting reading, and whatever 'spin' you want to read into it (or not), it makes for another nice source for stories.

Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 14, 2011, 10:28:22 PM
The French (math) teacher died.
http://www.thejournal.ie/teacher-immolates-herself-in-french-school-playground-254282-Oct2011/

You know, when 'god' tells teachers to light themselves on fire at school, it makes me worry just a little more about politicians whom 'god' instructs to run for president, and who would have access to nukes.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: kin hell on October 16, 2011, 03:44:11 AM
http://www.getreligion.org/

This site is about religion in the news.  After reading it for a bit, I can't decide whether it's pro/anti/neutral (which is actually promising for a site about news), but it is interesting reading, and whatever 'spin' you want to read into it (or not), it makes for another nice source for stories.

thanks for the link mate
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 16, 2011, 04:26:18 PM
Sharing is caring.  :p
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 24, 2011, 06:20:54 PM
http://politic365.com/2011/10/10/weekend-religious-violence-in-egypt-claims-25-lives/
More religious people killing each other over religion, for religious reasons, because it's religion.  In Egypt.

http://www.getreligion.org/2011/10/sharia-comes-to-libya/
A lot has been made of Libya's announcement that they will subscribe to Sharia law, and get rid of some laws conflicting with Sharia.  WTF did people expect?  They'd put on Mickey Mouse ears and say they wanted Christian values and sing Kumbaya?
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: helenecombs on October 26, 2011, 07:03:02 PM
I think a "Religion in the News" section would be a good idea.
:angel:
 
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 27, 2011, 11:06:16 PM
Another news-ish site I came across.
http://www.goddiscussion.com/category/religious-news/

Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 27, 2011, 11:28:10 PM
Mo' Fire & Brimstonez!!!, Say Baptists
http://www.baptiststandard.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13147&Itemid=53

Gotta give the devil his due.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 27, 2011, 11:31:09 PM
But it was the will o' GOD!
http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2011/10/28/parents-murder-was-the-will-of-god
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: LadyLucy on October 28, 2011, 01:39:45 PM
Why did it still not become a reality? I really think it would organize the boards more regarding just more of the miscellaneous religious articles that are around the Internet. And I'm pretty sure more people are interested than shown.

Off-topic: Not shocked to find that Libya and Egypt have religious conflicts and mandates they want to implement. Sad. There is a Huffington post article (I think that was it, or maybe it's another news source) that was discussing the only possibilities for Egypt would either be a secular country or Islam. 'Guess we all know which one the people of Egypt want, despite the fact that it can cause further conflict.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 28, 2011, 02:41:08 PM
Well, they think they want an islamic one, obviously.  Make the other trouble-making religions illegal, then have the various Islamic sects duke it out with suicide bombers and midnight hit squads, like in Iraq.

Just like the Christian-only U.S.A that the Republicans want.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 28, 2011, 09:53:17 PM
Even Pat Robertson thinks Republicans too extreme!
http://www.goddiscussion.com/83526/pat-robertson-calls-current-gop-field-too-extreme-video/
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on October 28, 2011, 10:35:16 PM
http://www.goddiscussion.com/83398/scientologys-office-of-special-affairs-targets-south-park-creators-parker-and-stone-for-2005-episode-trapped-in-the-closet/
Scientology still after South Park

This seems like a fairly nice site.

Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on November 01, 2011, 09:38:12 PM
Christians Most Persecuted Religious Group (sez Catholic Church)
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=39851
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: RaymondKHessel on November 01, 2011, 09:53:32 PM
Why did it still not become a reality? I really think it would organize the boards more regarding just more of the miscellaneous religious articles that are around the Internet. And I'm pretty sure more people are interested than shown.

Off-topic: Not shocked to find that Libya and Egypt have religious conflicts and mandates they want to implement. Sad. There is a Huffington post article (I think that was it, or maybe it's another news source) that was discussing the only possibilities for Egypt would either be a secular country or Islam. 'Guess we all know which one the people of Egypt want, despite the fact that it can cause further conflict.

Hey miss Lady! Where ya been, my little partridge in a pear tree? Haven't seen you around much the past few weeks or so.

Ol' Ray he, ah.... He kinda sorta... Ahem... He COUGHCOUGHMISSEDYACOUGHHACKCOUGH. A little. You know, like a smidge.

Er... DON'T TELL NOBODY! OR *ELSE*!  >:(

Hope things are good with you and yours at any rate lil' mama.  :)

On topic - Didn't we used to have a religion in the news section?
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on November 13, 2011, 06:42:59 PM
How could this be 'news'?  You already knew this...
http://www.tampabay.com/news/scientology/article1201166.ece
Title: More Hearing 'GOD' Tell of DOOM! DOOM! DO-O-O-O-M!!!!
Post by: pingnak on November 13, 2011, 06:59:12 PM
http://www.goddiscussion.com/84583/end-times-fears-persist-the-latest-fueled-by-a-women-hearing-god-talk-to-her-in-the-shower
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on November 16, 2011, 01:34:15 AM
http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/articles/2011/11/15/20111115maine-man-blames-dog-jesus-on-crimes.html
ANDOVER, Maine -- State Police say a man arrested for allegedly breaking into an Andover home told them his dog and Jesus made him do it.

Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on November 21, 2011, 07:15:41 PM
http://bikyamasr.com/48621/saudi-moral-committee-threatens-to-cover-tempting-women-eyes/

Another Matt 18:9 reference.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on November 23, 2011, 12:57:52 AM
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/22/world/asia/afghanistan-rape/index.html?hpt=ias_c1

Kabul (CNN) -- The ordeal of Gulnaz did not simply begin and end with the physical attack of her rape. The rape began a years-long nightmare of further pain, culminating in an awful choice she must now make.

...

In Afghanistan, this brought her not sympathy, but prosecution. Aged just 19, she was found guilty by the courts of sex outside of marriage -- adultery -- and sentenced to twelve years in jail.
Title: Ahh, the Amish
Post by: pingnak on November 23, 2011, 05:57:14 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57330387/fbi-arrests-7-amish-on-hate-crimes-charges/

Hard work, old fashioned family values, and cleansing rape.
Title: New Cuss Words Coined Because Of Censorship
Post by: pingnak on December 05, 2011, 01:13:58 AM
New Cuss Words Coined Because Of Censorship
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-15793721
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: kin hell on December 11, 2011, 09:47:54 AM
Forecasting a lack of virgins.   

http://xrdarabia.org/2011/12/03/beware-womens-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-39281 (http://xrdarabia.org/2011/12/03/beware-womens-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-39281)


idiots rule
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on December 12, 2011, 01:40:10 AM
When I was in Saudi Arabia, I did notice that they all drove like insane idiots.

Now I'm left to wonder what they were all doing besides driving that made them so erratic, and would make them think that women would automatically lose their virginity from operating a motor vehicle.

"That's not a stick shift he has his hand on..."
Title: Follow up: Rapture Pet Insurance
Post by: pingnak on December 27, 2011, 05:16:38 PM
http://www.getreligion.org/2011/12/about-that-raptured-pet-owners-insurance/

This made me smile.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: HAL on February 23, 2012, 07:17:04 PM
There is ALWAYS something in the news involving stupid religious people doing stupid things for their stupid religions.

There is now a new Religion in the News board.

Please post all the news stories about religion there.
Title: Re: I want a 'Religion In The News' section
Post by: pingnak on February 23, 2012, 11:06:52 PM
YAY!