Guys, these discussions with Shin are really boring and meaningless. He talks bullshit and has no idea what he is talking about. He doesn´t get that being an atheist means don´t even care about stuff like heaven and hell etc. What´s his goal? trying to get everyone here to become a believer? Waste of time. Have a serious discussion? He doesn´t even answer right. Just leave him alone with his believes and his god.
