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kaziglu bey



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You all know the story. Humans are doomed to a lifetime of temptation and wickedness due to the sins of Adam and Eve. A long time later, God decides to give us a way to atone for this. An apparently innocent man must be tortured to death, and then resurrected three days later, and if we choose to believe in this, we can be forgiven our sins and have eternal life.

Why is it necessary for an innocent man to die to accomplish the end of living eternally without punishment? How is another evil act supposed to redeem us for the evil acts of other people? Why is it that God only ever seems capable of doing things that are evil in order to stop/prevent/punish/redeem evil? In the OT, we see God killing lots of people, pretty much all of the time. The OT could in fact be subtitled "A collection of the murders perpetrated by the jealous, vengeful God Yahweh". He even kills people for complaining about God killing so many people. How is this a solution, and what problem is it supposed to solve?

The implications of following this type of standard are disturbing. Suppose a neighbor's dog poops on your lawn. You have several options available to you.
1) Ask your neighbor to clean up after his dog.
2) Clean up the mess yourself and ask your neighbor not to let his dog poop on your lawn again.
3) Build a fence to separate your property from your neighbor's so that their dog doesn't poop on your lawn.
4) Pick up the poop and put it on your neighbor's lawn so that it is not your problem anymore.
5) Shoot the dog, disembowel it, throw the mangled remains through your neighbors window, stuff the dog poop in your neighbor's mouth,  strangle him with his dog's intestines, and burn his house down.

If a regular person chose option 5, they would be considered a sadistic psychopath. If God were to chose this option (which seems to mirror his only approach to things), it would be considered not only a good thing, but necessary, because God did it. You can't question God. If he does it, it is good. If you think that it is overkill, he'll kill you too.

How is this a rational, justifiable, or sane way to deal with the problem?

Why is it OK for God to do more evil in order to cleanse us of evil? I always thought that "two wrongs don't make a right", but it seems to be the only way God can make things right. Given that an all-knowing, all-powerful God would have more than just five options, why does he always go with the worst one? And why does God demand that we go along with the evil act of killing an innocent man too, in order to make things right? How is this in any way good? By what means does acquiescing to evil absolve us of evil?
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Nick Don't look at the man behind the curtain!!! March 11, 2013, 07:06:46 AM