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^Actually, his statement that faith is not logical/rational and thus he can't present evidence to support logic or rationality is fairly honest.  How many theists have ever come out and just admitted that?  I know there's been a few, but I think they're in the minority.

The problem is not that faith is illogical/irrational.  The problem is basing your entire worldview on something that you know is illogical/irrational, and moreover, acting like it's then supported by the evidence that actually exists - even though it is 'unseen' and thus doesn't produce any such evidence.  And moreover, claiming that it's then virtuous because you can't prove it, but believe it anyway.

Forget logic and rationality - that attitude doesn't even make sense.  It's like claiming that someone who falls for a con job is virtuous because they believed the con man.
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screwtape yes July 23, 2013, 08:21:44 AM