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Lukvance



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Your logic enables you to believe in Big Foot, the Loch Ness Monster, Ancient Aliens, Bermuda Triangle Theorys, etc etc.
No. You can try (in another thread), I will then tell you what I am expecting from you so I would consider believing in these things.

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I have given you proof that the evidence you’ve provided is not valid, which you have rejected because it does not conform to your needs and because it goes against your beliefs.
Yeah...I don't remember that. I remember you stating things that contradict my proof without supporting it.

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Are you willing to accept that “God” does not exist and is not the cause of miracles, if that conclusion is reached through examination of the evidence?
Of course! I am not dumb. It's like if you are asking me "are you willing to accept that men did not walk on the moon if that conclusion is reached through examination of the evidence?" Of course I would! But I doubt you will find enough supported evidence.

In short : You don't know what would make you accept the fact that miracle are an act from God. I know what would make me accept every facts that I don't believe in.

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Actually I do know what would make me accept that miracles are an act from “God” as a fact.  I’ve explained to you
let's see if you explained something or if you just thew ideas without supporting them.

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first we need to detect “God” and make predictions about what to expect from “God” interacting with the natural world,
What would the detecting look like? With your 5 senses? What instruments should we use? Who will predict what to expect from God? You? The Pope? so many question without answers.

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then we can determine if “God” was actually involved in these “miracles”.
How would you determine such thing?

That's it that's all you have to say? then allow me to say it again : You don't know what would make you accept the fact that miracle are an act from God

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What exactly don’t you believe?
I don't believe that the Catholic church is run by Satan for example :). I don't believe that I can teleport myself or that someone can teleport. There are many things I don't believe.

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Do you believe in Hinduism (people have experienced it and there are experts in Hinduism)?  Do you believe in Islam (people have experienced it and there are experts in Islam)?  Do you believe in Ancient Aliens (people believe it is true and there are experts)?  Do you believe in astrology (people have experienced it and there are experts)?  Do you believe in fortune telling (people have experienced it and there are experts)?
No
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  Do you believe in magic (people have experienced it and there are experts)? 
  Depends on the form. But I would say yes.

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Do you avoid stepping on cracks?
No
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Do you throw salt over your shoulder if you spill salt?
No.

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I’ve reviewed the methods reported to be used by the Vatican and have found them to be flawed.
What was your source?

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One of the problems is that there is no peer-review process of the research done by the Catholic Church.  The system is set up so that only those within the Catholic Church are the experts, which makes it a self review process.  Self-review processes tend to ignore bias which favors the desired outcome.  The peer-review process seeks to remove bias and ignores the desired outcome.
explain to me how a peer-review process for a miracle should work. Then tell me that it is not what is already being done.

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So how do you know that “God” doesn’t cause bad things to happen to you? Like a test?
It's what Catholicism Christian religion taught me and what I've experienced so far.

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If bad things happening to us might be a test, how do we know that everything isn’t caused by “God”?
Same reason, religion.
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What if someone follows their conscience and they feel like “God” is involved, but then something bad happens?
Did it ever happen to you? If not, you are asking me "what if the impossible happen?"
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What if it was a test?
A test from your conscience? why? I don't see any reason why your conscience would put you to a test by LYING to you.
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SevenPatch trolling July 14, 2014, 09:17:28 PM