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Offline DL

Your posts [#1741]
« on: August 23, 2009, 04:20:46 AM »
You miss two critical elements in your arguments:

God is not all powerful
The Bible is the Christian foundation and history, it is not inerrant nor 
the Word of God (Jeus is the Word of God).

You've catagorized all Christians into fundamentalists or Roman Catholic 
(no Protestant believes you actually eat Jesus)

And you must go to the Buddhists, Shintoists, etc. to address their beliefs.

Why is it so important to you to discredit God? I freely let people believe 
or not believe in god(s) as they see fit. Why is it so critical for you to 
change everyone into atheists?

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Re: Your posts [#1741]
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2009, 05:19:23 AM »
You miss two critical elements in your arguments:

God is not all powerful
The Bible is the Christian foundation and history, it is not inerrant nor 
the Word of God (Jeus is the Word of God).

This doesn't really make sense. How is Jesus the word of God? If we accept an errant Bible then we have very little evidence left for Jesus.

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You've catagorized all Christians into fundamentalists or Roman Catholic 
(no Protestant believes you actually eat Jesus)

What do you believe?

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And you must go to the Buddhists, Shintoists, etc. to address their beliefs.

Those beliefs aren't such a problem for most atheists on this board. They may be utterly wrong, but Buddhists aren't normally trying to subvert education and government in western countries.

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Why is it so important to you to discredit God? I freely let people believe 
or not believe in god(s) as they see fit. Why is it so critical for you to 
change everyone into atheists?

I'm glad you're so open minded. I believe in Quetzalcoatl. He has told me that I must remove your heart and offer it to him, or the world will be destroyed by comets. This is how I believe in god as I see fit. Any problems?
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Re: Your posts [#1741]
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2009, 06:27:35 AM »
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Why is it so important to you to discredit God? I freely let people believe 
or not believe in god(s) as they see fit. Why is it so critical for you to 
change everyone into atheists?

It is not that people here are trying to disprove god.  Most of the people on this forum are rationalists about everything.  I do not believe in anything that I don't have evidence for.  Gravity? I believe in that! Men landing on the moon? I believe in that too! Why? One is an inescapable law of nature that can be demonstrated to the satisfaction of all whilst the other has overwhelming evidence to support that it happened.

Believe in a supernatural skyfaerie is somewhat different though.  There is no evidence of any kind to suggest he exists.  Not only that but people do such terrible things in his name and on his behalf.  Personally I am also quiet irked at the the terrible price it asks people to pay. Religion imposes artificial constraints of the worst kind on human behaviour and often tries to squeeze them into boxes.  The repressed homosexual, the teenager who racked with guilt because of impure thoughts, the families that go into debt so another tele evangelist can get rich at their expense....the list is endless.

The truth sets people free! The truth is there probably is no god.  It is as likely as a teapot orbiting the planet Mars.  I can not disprove it but I have no evidence to suggest that one is.  So I will live my life as I see fit, without the man made artificial constraints that religions of all creeds try to impose on me.

I suggest you try to do the same.

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Re: Your posts [#1741]
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2009, 08:02:37 AM »
You miss two critical elements in your arguments:

God is not all powerful
The Bible is the Christian foundation and history, it is not inerrant nor 
the Word of God (Jeus is the Word of God).

You've catagorized all Christians into fundamentalists or Roman Catholic 
(no Protestant believes you actually eat Jesus)

And you must go to the Buddhists, Shintoists, etc. to address their beliefs.

Why is it so important to you to discredit God?
I freely let people believe 
or not believe in god(s) as they see fit. Why is it so critical for you to 
change everyone into atheists?


First you kill the dog. You can deal with the fleas later.
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Re: Your posts [#1741]
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2009, 09:38:55 AM »
God is not all powerful?
2 miles!
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2009, 12:04:57 PM »
And you must go to the Buddhists, Shintoists, etc. to address their beliefs.

They don't have an office in the White House.

Why is it so important to you to discredit God?

We do not seek to discredit God. We seek to discredit people who claim to know that such a being exists, and to know what he wants the world to do.

I freely let people believe 
or not believe in god(s) as they see fit.

This is palpably false. Otherwise, what are you doing here arguing? If you were content to let me disbelieve as I see fit, you would not try to talk me out of my militant skepticism.

Why is it so critical for you to change everyone into atheists?

Not atheists--skeptics. There is a world of difference.
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Re: Your posts [#1741]
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2009, 03:27:09 PM »
You've catagorized all Christians into fundamentalists or Roman Catholic 
(no Protestant believes you actually eat Jesus)

And you must go to the Buddhists, Shintoists, etc. to address their beliefs.

Maybe YOU don't believe that you're literally eating the flesh of Jesus, but millions of people do.  It is their connection to the supposed sacrifice of Jesus.

As for the other realigions?  They're all delusional.
From inside your personal bubble yours makes sense while theirs does not.  Their religions seems nutcakes to you most likely.  In their bubbles, your religion seems nutcakes to them.

To us, ALL religions seem nutcakes, which in addition to making me hungry shows that you already don't believe in the majority of religions.  In fact you think that 99% of them are all lies.  We just happen to think that probably 100% are lies.

If somebody can show positive proof of their god, then I'd love to see it.  The whole world would, actually.
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