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What is your religious position?

gnostic atheist - I know for certain that there are no gods.
156 (16.4%)
gnostic monotheist - I know for certain that only one specific god exists.
92 (9.7%)
gnostic polytheist - I know for certain that there is more than one god.
4 (0.4%)
gnostic pantheist - I know for certain that that everything is god.
12 (1.3%)
gnostic deist - I know for certain that there is a god that started the universe but does not actively meddle with it or us.
6 (0.6%)
agnostic atheist - I do not know for certain, but I think there are no gods.
272 (28.6%)
agnostic monotheist - I do not know for certain, but I think only one specific god exists.
20 (2.1%)
agnostic polytheist - I do not know for certain, but I think there is more than one god.
4 (0.4%)
agnostic pantheist - I do not know for certain, but I think that everything is god.
24 (2.5%)
agnostic deist - I do not know for certain, but I think there is a god that started the universe but does not actively meddle with it or us.
36 (3.8%)
ignostic atheist - While the concepts of god(s) are meaningless, it is likely that there are no gods.
86 (9%)
ignostic monotheist - While the concepts of god(s) are meaningless, it is likely that only one specific god exists.
2 (0.2%)
ignostic polytheist - While the concepts of god(s) are meaningless, it is likely that there is more than one god.
1 (0.1%)
ignostic pantheist - While the concepts of god(s) are meaningless, it is likely that that everything is god.
10 (1.1%)
ignostic deist - While the concepts of god(s) are meaningless, it is likely that there is a god that started the universe but does not actively meddle with it or us.
7 (0.7%)
apnostic atheist - I don't care if there are any gods, but I guess there are no gods.
36 (3.8%)
apnostic monotheist - I don't care if there are any gods, but I guess only one specific god exists.
1 (0.1%)
apnostic polytheist - I don't care if there are any gods, but I guess there is more than one god.
0 (0%)
apnostic pantheist - I don't care if there are any gods, but I guess that everything is god.
7 (0.7%)
apnostic deist - I don't care if there are any gods, but I guess there is a god that started the universe but does not actively meddle with it or us.
7 (0.7%)
Any type of henotheist - There (may be/is only) more than one god, but I think of only one specific god.
6 (0.6%)
I am a god!  [checks self in mirror and grins]
82 (8.6%)
Missionary.
30 (3.2%)
So! Many! Choices! (Karma Sutra)
50 (5.3%)

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Offline The Wannabe

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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #493 on: September 16, 2011, 04:33:34 PM »
wel;come

ravi is fun but his arguments fail badly; particular the morality argument.

Yes, I checked him out on Youtube and it didn't do anything for me.

A friend from church recommended Ravi to me.  From what i saw, he was the best that christian apologetics has to offer in regards to the moral argument.  The more i watched his videos, however, the more i came to realise this "moral argument" he was championing was full of more holes then a spaghetti strainer.  In the long run, he didn't do much for me either.
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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #494 on: September 16, 2011, 06:06:31 PM »
A friend from church recommended Ravi to me.  From what i saw, he was the best that christian apologetics has to offer in regards to the moral argument.  The more i watched his videos, however, the more i came to realise this "moral argument" he was championing was full of more holes then a spaghetti strainer.  In the long run, he didn't do much for me either.

The moral argument would be a lot stronger if it wasn't for the existance of other civilizations with ... morals. What's most annoying is the false dichotomy between "personal morality" and religious morality
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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #495 on: October 09, 2011, 06:09:19 PM »
I have noticed many people here saying that it is not possible to be a gnostic atheist, because it is not possible to know that there are no gods. Could anyone explain to me why this is not possible? I am afraid that I do not understand.
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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #496 on: October 13, 2011, 03:27:21 PM »
 :) I am a Christian. I am saved by the blood of Jesus Christ.

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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #497 on: October 13, 2011, 04:38:48 PM »
:) I am a Christian. I am saved by the blood of Jesus Christ.

Hi, b2, welcome to WWGHA.  I hope you find your stay here an enjoyable and informative one.
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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #498 on: October 13, 2011, 08:44:17 PM »
Thanks pianodwarf....you a keyboard player?

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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #499 on: October 14, 2011, 06:49:37 AM »
Thanks pianodwarf....you a keyboard player?

I am not.  I am also not a dwarf, being five foot eleven (or 180 centimeters if you swing that way).  The story behind my nick is a long one.
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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #500 on: October 15, 2011, 06:34:52 PM »
I have noticed many people here saying that it is not possible to be a gnostic atheist, because it is not possible to know that there are no gods. Could anyone explain to me why this is not possible? I am afraid that I do not understand.
I think it's quite possible to know that there are no gods. A god, by definition, is omnipotent (I am unsure whether this is true or not) and omnipotence is impossible.
Simply ask: Can God, or any omnipotent being create a rock so heavy that even he cannot move it? If he can create this rock, then he cannot move it, therefore he is not omnipotent. If he cannot, then obviously, this means he is not omnipotent.
Therefore, there can be no god (So I'm a gnostic atheist.)

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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #501 on: October 16, 2011, 02:36:51 AM »
Iam an Agnostic atheist, Thanks for the post

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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #502 on: October 17, 2011, 11:13:25 AM »
*looks at list* There are 70 Gods?!  :o
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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #503 on: October 24, 2011, 11:54:04 AM »
My religious position is to let every man, woman and child know that God is Real. To do that, I have the responsibility to show the same God that is real, really cares. To show that God really cares requires me to adopt the same attitude as the One I follow.  The One I follow, though the world was made through Him, took upon Himself the attitude of a bond servant, becoming obedient unto death on a cross. To show that God really cares requires that I become His feet, hands and voice in this world.  The great question cannot be answered via human logic. God is beyond human reason. Religion is the feeble human attempt to explain the God who is beyond human understanding.  The Great Question - "Is God Real?" http://www.wintercreeks.biz/is-god-real.php   :)
 

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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #504 on: October 24, 2011, 11:57:33 AM »
The great question cannot be answered via human logic. God is beyond human reason. Religion is the feeble human attempt to explain the God who is beyond human understanding. 

Then you are worshipping ignorance.  And you are claiming to understand something you also claim is not understandable.

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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #505 on: October 24, 2011, 12:13:02 PM »
The great question cannot be answered via human logic. God is beyond human reason. Religion is the feeble human attempt to explain the God who is beyond human understanding. 

Then you are worshipping ignorance.  And you are claiming to understand something you also claim is not understandable.

Another contradiction! :o
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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #506 on: October 24, 2011, 12:20:42 PM »
My religious position is to let every man, woman and child know that God is Real. To do that, I have the responsibility to show the same God that is real, really cares. To show that God really cares requires me to adopt the same attitude as the One I follow.  The One I follow, though the world was made through Him, took upon Himself the attitude of a bond servant, becoming obedient unto death on a cross. To show that God really cares requires that I become His feet, hands and voice in this world.  The great question cannot be answered via human logic. God is beyond human reason. Religion is the feeble human attempt to explain the God who is beyond human understanding.  The Great Question - "Is God Real?" http://www.wintercreeks.biz/is-god-real.php   :)
 

Hello there. Maybe make a thread in the introduction section and go a bit into detail about yourself so we can properly welcome you?
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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #507 on: October 26, 2011, 02:40:04 PM »
My religious position is to let every man, woman and child know that God is Real. To do that, I have the responsibility to show the same God that is real, really cares. 

No, in order to show me your god is real, what you have to do is show me some evidence, objective evidence.
Objective evidence that isn't an appeal to ignorance, doesn't involve special pleading, circular reasoning...or any logical fallacy.

I give it to you:

(1)Define God. Do not use weasel words or circular definitions.
(2)Prove that that definition is not a logical paradox
(3)Show proof that differs from the other ten thousand dieties man
has worshipped, again without committing a logical error

Until you do those three things....your worship of that deity is the intellectual equivalent a gibbering tribal primitive bowing before their god, UGABUGA.
An Omnipowerful God needed to sacrifice himself to himself (but only for a long weekend) in order to avert his own wrath against his own creations who he made in a manner knowing that they weren't going to live up to his standards.

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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #508 on: October 27, 2011, 07:31:16 AM »
@wintercreeks

Why do you believe in that particular god? What is the reason you hold that belief?
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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #509 on: October 27, 2011, 07:43:31 AM »
This is not a debate thread.  If you would like to discuss why people believe (or don't believe) what they do or do not believe, start a new thread or join an ongoing one.  And introduction thread for wintercreeks would be a good place to start.

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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #510 on: November 17, 2011, 04:13:15 PM »
ROFL I picked missionary because it is the best position for sex.   nothing is more intimate and wonderful then staring into your lover's eyes as you enter ......

oh and i'm also an agnostic atheist because i guess i cannot know for 100% certainty that god is imaginary.

Also when I did online dating I picked "spiritual but not religious".   that's a pretty fuzzy term, but I like to go on hikes a lot, and there is nothing I love more than taking in the grand splendor of Nature as you are surrounded by a forest that is centuries old, with majestic mountains looming before you, and a pristine lake undisturbed by civilization.    So I get this strong spiritual feeling whenver I'm out in the wild.    This is especially strong at night when I can see all the stars.     But I do not worship Nature.   I just think she is beautiful.     

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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #511 on: November 20, 2011, 10:21:18 PM »
Just did the survey…

Born on a Christmas day, surrounded by nuns, Janis Joplin, priests, and Jimmy Hendrix. Always thought that I was treated differently. Wonder why!

I keep a copy of the bible and use it as a door stopper, if only to help me remember of what it was like.

Today I’m an Atheist.
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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #512 on: November 21, 2011, 10:01:36 PM »
What? You don't expect Christians to come to this forum? That's not biased or anything.

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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #513 on: November 21, 2011, 10:12:37 PM »
What? You don't expect Christians to come to this forum? That's not biased or anything.

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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #514 on: November 21, 2011, 10:31:09 PM »
What? You don't expect Christians to come to this forum? That's not biased or anything.

Welcome to the forum zerwwgha.  Starting off with a misguided sarcastic quip derived solely off of an embarrassing inability to read the different categories carefully is a poor way to start.  Perhaps you should try again? 

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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #515 on: November 22, 2011, 12:24:35 AM »
Hmm I have limited privileges on how I can communicate! Help me out someone... please. I promise I'll be nice during debates. So far I can't create new threads or send private messages.

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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #516 on: November 22, 2011, 12:26:35 AM »
^I'm not sure about PMs, but a member can start a thread after they have 3 posts.
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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #517 on: December 18, 2011, 04:51:24 PM »
What? You don't expect Christians to come to this forum? That's not biased or anything.
Welcome. It's not that we don't expect the religious of any persuasion to come here, but given title of the forum, a lot are  unable to think of a reason why God should not heal amputees and therefore go off and continue spouting inanities to like-minded godbothers so that no one actually questions their (as yet unsupported) belief.

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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #518 on: January 14, 2012, 06:48:48 AM »
I am a deity soul, God is The Supreme Soul simply because God is a soul identical to us however God never owns a corporeal form, Body Human... God however does borrow a human body and has been coming to earth re-creating heaven on earth once again for the last 75 years. Proove this experientially here www.bkwsu.org for your self... or not.

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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #519 on: January 14, 2012, 07:50:23 AM »
You prove it.
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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #520 on: January 14, 2012, 08:31:24 AM »
I am a deity soul, God is The Supreme Soul simply because God is a soul identical to us however God never owns a corporeal form, Body Human... God however does borrow a human body and has been coming to earth re-creating heaven on earth once again for the last 75 years. Proove this experientially here www.bkwsu.org for your self... or not.

Hi Dilaram,

welcome to our forum.  please note, the green text indicates I am acting as a moderator. 

So far in both your posts you have made some claims and then linked a website.  This is a discussion forum, so the expectation is that you discuss, not just link.  If you continue to just link that site, it will appear that you are spamming us and that is not allowed.  So please read the Rules and be more engaging.  Thanks.

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Re: What is your religious position?
« Reply #521 on: January 30, 2012, 03:15:59 AM »
Hi all , just joined , I have been fighting what seemed like a lone battle for years ,
So I am delighted to find a site claiming as I do that we can prove god does not exist ,
I'm currently the Author of a several threads , Atheists vrs Skeptics ,,Life After Religion ,
and more currently ,Science fiction or fact ,
I can't persuade any of the people on that site , that we can prove god doesn't exist ,
and there are people claiming to be Atheists ,,??? I just don't get that ,
so I'm trying to get them to explain ,what would they consider proof ,
and they havn't offered an answer yet .
I agree with the green moderator , just posting web addresses doesn't address the issue,
especially for people on dial-up , the last thing we want to do is go browsing again ,
it's so slow we don't usually bother , proof there is no god , for starters , it's impossible ,!!!