So ThunderF00t came up with a hypothesis, I can sit down with an out spoken creationist and have a reasonable discussion.
Absolutely, but he should have done this testing on a small scale first, not in a major league venue. It was reckless and arrogant for him to think he could waltz into Comfort's office with zero practice face to face and hold his own.
He ran the experiment in Comforts office, surrounded by Comforts people, on camera, without any experience in public debate.
Yes, and shame on him for doing so.
The experiment failed to produce the results wanted.
The experiment could not have produced any other result than failure. Comfort is a master at his craft. It's idiocy to assume a complete virgin could hold his own against that guy. The points of fact mean almost nothing here. What's important is how you represent your position to the other side. Thunderf00t should have known that there's no way he was going to be able to give a good showing.
ThunderF00t and all of us did learn from this.
So what do you think the lesson here is?
I can gaurantee that Ray learned nothing. He only had his own erroneous presuppostions strengthened. He came away emboldened. A little more sure. A little more cocky. And therefore little more vulnerable.
He's only vulnerable if we learn how to exploit it. That's why I'm railing on Thunderf00t so hard; so that everyone can see clearly what his mistakes were so that we don't repeat them.
TF probed the defenses with his experiment and we can all learn from it if we don't run away in fear of looking like a fool.
Those defenses need to be probed off camera in a small setting where you're fuck-ups won't be broadcast to hundreds of thousands of people.
Did you see my baseball analogy?
Looks are not important. Only courage.
No. Looks are incredibly important. If we don't look like we know what we're doing, no one will listen to us. If we don't make the Ray Comforts of the world look like the idiotic mouth breathers that they are, people will continue to listen to them.
Anything worth doing is worth doing porrly... in the beginning.
Definitely, that's why in the beginning you don't stick your chest out like a banty rooster and challenge the seasoned pros before you've even learned the game. That's stupid. Can you imagine a football team made up of entirely of people who'd been playing the game less than a month who then tries to compete with real NFL teams? They'd get killed and everyone would laugh at them.
I sure hope everyone has learned from this.