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« on: July 19, 2009, 08:01:10 PM »

What do you believe?

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Re: forever [#1601]
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2009, 08:02:51 PM »
What do you believe?

I believe in very rational things, such as gravity, evolution, and that the planet Earth is spherical. :)

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Re: forever [#1601]
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2009, 08:05:53 PM »
Not god.

I believe in science, logic, rational though, humanity, etc...

For what it's worth, atheist has no belief structure, so you are going to get a whole variety of answers.

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Re: forever [#1601]
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2009, 08:06:59 PM »
It's called secular humanism. Look it up, original poster. :)

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Re: forever [#1601]
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2009, 10:03:11 PM »
What do you believe?

Probably much of the same thing you,  your Christian relatives, and Christian neighbors do.  Except for supernatural entities -- just like some of your non-Christian relatives and neighbors.

That said, I try and know as much as I can -- and admit humbly what I do not know.  I consider that to be more honest -- both personally and towards others -- than asserting my beliefs must be reality by personal fiat.

What do you believe and why do you believe it?
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Re: forever [#1601]
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2009, 10:05:06 PM »
Love the Christian. Hate the delusion.

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Re: forever [#1601]
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2009, 02:53:10 AM »
Are you asking what we believe about forever?

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Re: forever [#1601]
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2009, 04:21:59 AM »

What do you believe?

"There are only two kinds of people in the world - there are those who wake up in the morning and say, "Good morning, Lord," and there are those who wake up in the morning and say, "Good Lord, it's morning."." ?Unknown
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Re: forever [#1601]
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2009, 04:31:19 AM »

What do you believe?
I believe the truth.
"Faith is believing in something you know isn't true" - Mark Twain

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Re: forever [#1601]
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2009, 06:51:15 AM »

I believe;

If I eat too much and do not exercise I will get fat.

Beauty is subjective and personal.

Using the scientific method we can figure out how things work.

I am tired.

Youth is wasted on the young.

I am responsible for my own actions.

To name just a few.

What do you believe?



I am responsible with my actions NOW so I don't HAVE to be responsible for them later.

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Re: forever [#1601]
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2009, 08:43:26 AM »
"Believe" is an ambiguous word. The way religious people use it, it means "accept as true in the absence of confirming evidence, and even in the presence of contradictory evidence.

I do not believe anything in this sense.

It can be a subjective, conditional declaration, subject to revision if new information comes to light: "I believe you're telling the truth," or "I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone."

As a mere figurative expression, "I believe" means, "I think this is probable. It might not turn out the way I'm thinking, but I'll get back to you."

This is the sense I intend when I say, "I believe I'll have another beer." And that's the sense in which I use it most frequently.
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Re: forever [#1601]
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2009, 10:23:03 AM »

What do you believe?

Depends on what you define as 'belief':

1. Belief meaning you hold something to be true without evidence:

Wasps are evil, english accents are annoying, most people from minesota are nice.  I have lots of irrational things I 'believe' in this manner for one reason or another.

2. Belief meaning you hold a proposition to be true:

Beliefs in this context are countless, but its never held upon the idea that that belief requires itself to be believed.  I don't believe in the scientific method because I believe in the scientific method, I believe in the scientific method because its ability to produce.  I may never know it to be absolutely true in soem greater sense, but I trust in its capacity to produce BECAUSE it works.
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Re: forever [#1601]
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2009, 10:25:07 AM »
I believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, Leprechauns, Unicorns, Trolls, Ogres, Smurfs, Transformers, etc., etc.,

You have a problem with that, yo?

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Re: forever [#1601]
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2009, 11:19:37 AM »
I believe the original poster's message is ambiguous.

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Re: forever [#1601]
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2009, 11:22:30 AM »
I believe the original poster's message is ambiguous.

But how can you be so sure?
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Re: forever [#1601]
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2009, 11:25:06 AM »
I believe the original poster's message is ambiguous.

But how can you be so sure?

Because it just asks this strange question, and there's no other text.

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Re: forever [#1601]
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2009, 11:26:51 AM »
Perhaps there is a meaning there.  You just need the right interpretation.  To me, its ambiguity is ambiguous.
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Re: forever [#1601]
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2009, 03:41:10 AM »
I believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, Leprechauns, Unicorns, Trolls, Ogres, Smurfs, Transformers, etc., etc.,

You have a problem with that, yo?

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Hate those creepy smurfs. Stamp 'em out.
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Re: forever [#1601]
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2009, 03:46:54 AM »
oh come on forever exists, get over it.

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Re: forever [#1601]
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2009, 04:46:30 AM »

What do you believe?

I believe I'll eat eggs this morning.
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