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Hello again [#1621]
« on: July 21, 2009, 08:03:18 PM »

Are you trying to make people not believe in jesuse christ?
I mean seriously, its like you are afraid that people will go to heaven and you are not
If you are making these videos against God to preach herecy to these people
then why do you care about them so much
this is a free country
if you think that you are trying to save them from stupidness the you are not so intellegent as your mom wanted you to be.

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Re: Hello again [#1621]
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2009, 08:09:01 PM »
O.k. here's the deal:

You repost that email message with ALL of the spelling and grammar errors corrected (BY YOU) and I will pray for jesus to come into my heart and save me.

I don't suppose you are so selfish and arrogant that you would not do this little thing to help save a lost one such as myself. 
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Re: Hello again [#1621]
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2009, 08:27:40 PM »
this is a free country

We're on the internet Einstein, it's not a "country".

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Re: Hello again [#1621]
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2009, 09:06:43 PM »
Are you trying to make people not believe in jesuse christ?

Believe what you want -- I care about actions.

I mean seriously, its like you are afraid that people will go to heaven and you are not

There is no such thing as a soul, and thus no afterlife for it to go.

Disagree?  Feel free to look at my support for that statement, and challenge any part of it;

http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/forums/index.php?topic=6546

If you are making these videos against God to preach herecy to these people

The Christian deity God is imaginary.  The videos can't be against an imaginary entity.

then why do you care about them so much
this is a free country

This country?  Where are you?  The videos are for anyone, anywhere.  The target audience are college educated English speakers.

The country I'm in has a strong free speech tradition, and I embrace it for everyone -- especially people I fervently disagree with.  Let the best supported ideas win.

if you think that you are trying to save them from stupidness the you are not so intellegent as your mom wanted you to be.

Since you are into mind reading, I consider that this is also appropriate for you;



I have noticed, as you may have as well, that there are Christians that do things in the name of Christianity that are negative.  Christians that promote bigotry and ignorance.  Christians that advocate actions that lead to harm and even death.  Christians that advocate not caring about this world and who want it to be destroyed in a polluted and fiery apocalypse.

If there were enough Christians that effectively dealt with those problems, I would not have any concerns.  Believe as you want.  As far as I would be concerned, the real world problems would be solved.

Unfortunately, that is not the world we are in.  Most Christians aren't doing nearly enough.   Many unfortunately are actively promoting these negative goals -- from paying money passively to going out and doing these negative actions themselves.  Some of the strongest advocates for those negative actions are the leaders and congregants of the larger Christian churches and organizations; this is not a problem with a few fringe groups or eccentric cult leaders.

Too many Christians not only do not take responsibility, they are leading the charge for these negative actions.  They justify bigotry and ignorance, they justify actions that result in the deaths of others that could be easily avoided.

As a responsible person, someone who cares about the world and the future of humanity, I have to act.  Even if it is not my fault that these Christians are doing harm, it is my responsibility to do something positive.  You can consider it a moral obligation.  If that means that I have to hold up a mirror so that my fellow humans look at what they believe, then I'll take that modest step.  Maybe that will be enough to drain the air out of some of those bad ideas?

My question to you is not what you believe, but what are you doing about the acts your fellow Christians perform in the name of Christianity that spread hate, bigotry, ignorance, pain, and death?
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Re: Hello again [#1621]
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2009, 09:20:28 PM »

Are you trying to make people not believe in jesuse christ?

You want to believe in "jesuse christ", be my guest. I give a shit. Just don't force it down my throat, or anyone else's.

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I mean seriously, its like you are afraid that people will go to heaven and you are not

Why would an Atheist be afraid of people going to a place they do not even believe exists?

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If you are making these videos against God to preach herecy to these people
then why do you care about them so much

As my grandfather would say, "Say, huh?"

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this is a free country

The U.S.? Why, yes it is. It's called "Freedom of Speech", it doesn't just apply to people who are religious but to those who are not.

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if you think that you are trying to save them from stupidness the you are not so intellegent as your mom wanted you to be.

Read this line, and then get a dictionary, and then look up stupid, and you'll find your name.

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This thread is about lab-grown dicks, not some mincy, old, British poof of an actor. 

Let's get back on topic, please.


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Re: Hello again [#1621]
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2009, 12:14:20 AM »

Are you trying to make people not believe in jesuse christ?
I mean seriously, its like you are afraid that people will go to heaven and you are not
If you are making these videos against God to preach herecy to these people
then why do you care about them so much
this is a free country
if you think that you are trying to save them from stupidness the you are not so intellegent as your mom wanted you to be.

Did you know that the idea of Jesus having actually atoned for all the sins of humanity is considered heresy by virtually all mainstream religions?  It is true.  Look up the term "Universal Reconciliation" and you'll see that the idea, while supported scripturally is heresy.

Tell you what, it's hard to have a one way conversation.  Join the forum and repost, I'll be glad to telk to you about your Jesus.  I won't even try to trick you.  I don't need to, and it is more satisfying for me to help a Christian know their own bible better.
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Re: Hello again [#1621]
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2009, 09:08:33 AM »

if you think that you are trying to save them from stupidness the you are not so intellegent as your mom wanted you to be.

My mom doesn't believe in "jesuse christ" either.
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Re: Hello again [#1621]
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2009, 10:18:52 AM »

Are you trying to make people not believe in jesuse christ?

If you mean "jesus e. christ" then, yes.  I want them to stop believing in jesus and that he is coming back to kick ass and clean things up.  It has been 2000 years.  He's dead and not coming back.

I mean seriously, its like you are afraid that people will go to heaven and you are not

I am not afraid of that.  I am afraid religious kooks are going to continue to do really stupid things because of their stupid beliefs.  You know, like fly airplanes into buildings.  Or worse.

If you are making these videos against God to preach herecy to these people

So?  They don't have to watch them.  They make videos all the time.  Are you saying they get to make videos to encourage people to believe, be we cannot make them to encourage people to come to their senses?  That is unfair, don't you think?

if you think that you are trying to save them from stupidness the you are not so intellegent as your mom wanted you to be.

Well, you know how moms are.  They always want their kids to be doctors or dentists.  I'm sure yours has plenty to be disappointed about too.
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Re: Hello again [#1621]
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2009, 12:58:52 PM »
O.k. here's the deal:

You repost that email message with ALL of the spelling and grammar errors corrected (BY YOU) and I will pray for jesus to come into my heart and save me.

I don't suppose you are so selfish and arrogant that you would not do this little thing to help save a lost one such as myself. 

Wow, this guy hates christ so much, and is such a coward, he won't even humble himself to correct his spelling to help bring a fellow human to christ.

Pathetic. 
You believe evolution and there is no evidence for that. Where is the fossil record of a half man half ape. I've only ever heard about it in reading.

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Re: Hello again [#1621]
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2009, 01:57:21 PM »
Are you saying they get to make videos to encourage people to believe, be we cannot make them to encourage people to come to their senses?  That is unfair, don't you think?

Of course it's unfair.  They want to make it even worse, maybe like the death penalty or something for speaking out against their god.  I think that secretly a lot of Christains are envious of the level of anger and commitment that Islam seems to get out of it's adherents.
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Re: Hello again [#1621]
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2009, 03:17:00 PM »
Are you saying they get to make videos to encourage people to believe, be we cannot make them to encourage people to come to their senses?  That is unfair, don't you think?

Of course it's unfair.  They want to make it even worse, maybe like the death penalty or something for speaking out against their god.  I think that secretly a lot of Christains are envious of the level of anger and commitment that Islam seems to get out of it's adherents.

Yeah, they are handcuffed by that peacenick-hippy, jesus.  If only he were more like mohammed.  That mofo knew how to throw down.
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Re: Hello again [#1621]
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2009, 03:20:59 PM »

Are you trying to make people not believe in jesuse christ?
I mean seriously, its like you are afraid that people will go to heaven and you are not
If you are making these videos against God to preach herecy to these people
then why do you care about them so much
this is a free country
if you think that you are trying to save them from stupidness the you are not so intellegent as your mom wanted you to be.

What I am afraid that people who believe in such nonsense will ruin this world for me by their idiotic "my invisible friend is better than yours" religions. 
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