Before I found this site over a month ago, I was really on the fence. I had not reached a place where I was saying that God wasn't real. But I had reached a place where I was saying that God does not do the things that the Bible and/or Christians say that He does. However, I still considered my self a believer – just a rebellious one.
Then I found this website and watched the videos. I devoured each and every link and read every single line of information. I literally spent an entire day poring over this sight, watching the videos again, re-reading certain articles. By that evening, I had come to full terms with my life as a Christian. This thread is a result of that epiphany.
In starting this thread, I used one example of over 30 years of experiences as a Christian to try and relay how I had come to terms with my faith, or subsequent lack thereof. My birth to rationalism was not strictly because of an allergy. My allergy, and how God chose to interact with me about it, was but one step that culminated with my questions, doubt, fear, searching, enlightenment, and finally acceptance of the fact that the God of the Bible does not exist.
So suffice it to say that I did not initially arrive at this site as an atheist. But after having spent many weeks studying, debating, listening, and questioning – I feel that I have finally arrived at my true self.
The Christians who offered their debate (and I use that word loosely) only served to remind me of my initial questionings and also gave me a fresh look at how ridiculous my Christian arguments and explanations have been in the past. They did nothing to “move me back to the fold.” They only pushed me further away.
The Rationalists who offered their debate did so with such logic, intelligence, order, fairness, and forthrightness that I couldn't help but find my initial fears and doubts turn to confidence and assurance.
So be it. It makes me sad, but it sounds like your transformation is complete - prepare to become more machine than man as you lose your heart slowly over time.
It was good talking with you.
As a final tribute to ol' Chesty, I would have to agree that, yes, my transformation is complete.
"More machine than man." That is ignorant, arrogant and frankly stupid. Though I'd argue that following a set of instructions because of some great script is much more machine like than free thought and logical thinking. After all Christians do as they're told by the bible.
Seppuku, there is no one so blind as the man who just wont see. I used to be one of the machines like Chesterton. He doesn't see that he is exactly what he claims I will become. He spouts the same thing that all the other Christians spout. I used to be one of these religious automatons and I never realized that I was more machine than man. But then I never really opened my eyes either. The Bible itself says that to be a Christian we must be as sheep. No individuality, just sheep. There is your machine. Chesterton can't see it but I can. That used to be me.
I think Lonestar Grandad made an exellent point in a previous post (I think it was him) and that's by being an atheist and not believing in an afterlife makes your appreciate the life you have a whole lot more. As atheists this life is all we have and why waste it?
Seppuku, this is my new reality and you have reiterated it with your usual eloquence. This is my new life. I find myself not wanting to waste a second of it. Lately, my wife and I find ourselves asking each other, “What do you want to do now?” We are so consumed with getting everything out of today that our lives are richer, fuller, happier, and more peaceful. It was told to me that we have more peace because we have laid down a heavy burden. I couldn't agree more! At least we threw off the shackles before we were too old and bitter to enjoy this wonderful experience we call life.
I want to thank all of you for your instruction, debate, construction, and presence. It has literally been a life-changing event, happening upon this site. I don't know how much longer I will choose to debate the irrational ones (Christians) but I will check in from time to time.
Thanks again to everyone. Even though I don't know you personally, I count you all as friends. And to my Christian counterparts I say, keep your eyes open. You never know when the next “miracle” will actually be a total and complete denial of any miracle at all. When that happens, you are really on to something! I am not a Christian, I am not a sinner, I am not a rebel, I am not an atheist. I am LonestarGrandad : non-believer in the unbelievable.