Jesus may never have come back, but this thread has apparently emerged from the grave...
Jesus was like a celebrity back then. The higher ups hated him because he was claiming to be God.
If Jesus was so famous, why wasn't he...you know...famous?
How is it that only a small group of his own followers ever bothered to write about him, decades after the time he was supposed to have lived? How is it that no contemporary historian or commentator on religious issues (e.g. Philo of Alexandria) seemed to have noticed such a "famous" and putatively remarkable person?
But the thing is, Jesus said that he was going to come back to life. And if Jesus didn't do what he said he was going to do, his body would have been shown to all of the people.
There is no evidence that claims of Jesus' resurrection received any degree of wide currency until decades after his (alleged) death. The Jewish Revolt (66-70 A.D.) and its aftermath would have put the kabosh on any attempts to "produce Jesus' body" or locate "eyewitnesses" and validate their stories.
Then he would be known as Jesus, the liar. But was that ever said? Nope.
Citation needed. We have no records of any attempts to debunk Christianity prior to Celsus in the Third Century, and his writings only survive in quoted passages in Contra Celsum
, a Christian rebuttal written by Origen in 248. Whatever critiques of Christianity or other non-Christian responses to it that may have existed prior to Celsus have been completely lost to history.
Furthermore, there are tons and tons of witnesses to his coming back.
"Tons and tons?" Really? By all means, please name some, and demonstrate the provenance of their writings, i.e., that they are independent, contemporary sources.
The people saw the holes on his hands and feet and saw him alive and well, (as I said before, he was like a celebrity back then), and so it was a huge deal.
Then why did nobody, except the tiny sect of Christians, seem to notice? Where are the Roman and Jewish writings about this "huge deal" that took place?
Since you're picking up the torch where the long-lost Fran left off (and this thread has been dead since December of 2013), would you be willing to engage me in a formal debate on this subject?