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Did a man named Jesus rise from the dead?
Fran:
--- Quote from: PinkMilk on May 27, 2009, 11:03:19 AM ---Can you prove the Resurrection of Jesus Christ actually occurred? It seems to me that if a man came back from the dead that there would be more than one book about it. I mean, seriously, he came back from the dead and the only book about it is the Bible?
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I think it can be demonstrated beyond any reasonable doubt that the Resurrection of Christ actually occured in history. And I think William Lane Craig shows this to be true in his numerous debates with highly intelligent atheists and non-believers.
Inactive_1:
--- Quote from: Fran on May 27, 2009, 12:58:40 PM ---
I think it can be demonstrated beyond any reasonable doubt that the Resurrection of Christ actually occurred in history.
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Hello Fran,
I would say that the beyond reasonable doubt criteria is only applicable to reasonable claims. It is not unreasonable for a reasonable person to highly doubt unreasonable claims, therefore they require much more evidence to convince than the normal quality or quantity required for a beyond reasonable doubt level, such as a court of law.
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subtleinspiration:
--- Quote from: Fran on May 27, 2009, 12:58:40 PM ---I think it can be demonstrated beyond any reasonable doubt that the Resurrection of Christ actually occured in history.
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It'd be nice if you'd follow that kind of statement up with, you know, evidence?
screwtape:
I'll not get in the the brutal torture of the word "faith" in which you have indulged. Others will handle that.
--- Quote from: Fran on May 27, 2009, 12:53:21 PM ---Indeed, the Bible TEACHES AND DEMANDS that we all TEST EVERYTHING!!!!!
God abhores Blind faith and teaches against it. So when Christians and the Bible are talking about "faith", they are talking about trust. But that trust is not blind. It is based on evidence. And that is the point.
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I think you do not know god very well.
--- Quote ---John 20:29 (New International Version)
29Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."
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Inactive_1:
--- Quote from: subtleinspiration on May 27, 2009, 03:27:39 PM ---
It'd be nice if you'd follow that kind of statement up with, you know, evidence?
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Why don't we start a new thread on this subject and ask Fran to participate? There we can all hash out what the evidence is, and whether the claim of a dead person returning to life 2000 years ago is a reasonable claim, requiring normal historical standards of evidence, or whether it is an unreasonable claim, requiring evidence above and beyond that required for normal human historical events.
How about it Fran? You game? I don't have to ask the other members if they are, because I already know the answer.
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