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Scientific Facts in the Bible [#1295]
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 Scientific Facts in the Bible
1. Only in recent years has science discovered that everything we see is composed of invisible atoms. Here, Scripture tells us that the "things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."

2. Medical science has only recently discovered that blood-clotting in a newborn reaches its peak on the eighth day, then drops. The Bible consistently says that a baby must be circumcised on the eighth day.

3. At a time when it was believed that the earth sat on a large animal or a giant (1500 B.C.), the Bible spoke of the earths free float in space: "He...hangs the earth upon nothing" (Job 26:7).

4. The prophet Isaiah also tells us that the earth is round: "It is he that sits upon the circle of the earth" (Isaiah 40:22). This is not a reference to a flat disk, as some skeptic maintain, but to a sphere. Secular man discovered this 2,400 years later. At a time when science believed that the earth was flat, is was the Scriptures that inspired Christopher Columbus to sail around the world (see Proverbs 3:6 footnote).

5. God told Job in 1500 B.C.: "Can you send lightnings, that they may go, and say to you, Here we are?" (Job 38:35). The Bible here is making what appears to be a scientifically ludicrous statement—that light can be sent, and then manifest itself in speech. But did you know that radio waves travel at the speed of light? This is why you can have instantaneous wireless communication with someone on the other side of the earth. Science didnt discover this until 1864 when "British scientist James Clerk Maxwell suggested that electricity and light waves were two forms of the same thing" (Modern Century Illustrated Encyclopedia).

6. Job 38:19 asks, "Where is the way where light dwells?" Modern man has only recently discovered that light (electromagnetic radiation) has a "way," traveling at 186,000 miles per second.

7. Science has discovered that stars emit radio waves, which are received on earth as a high pitch. God mentioned this in Job 38:7: "When the morning stars sang together..."

8. "Most cosmologists (scientists who study the structures and evolution of the universe) agree that the Genesis account of creation, in imagining an initial void, may be uncannily close to the truth" (Time, Dec. 1976).

9. Solomon described a "cycle" of air currents two thousand years before scientists "discovered" them. "The wind goes toward the south, and turns about unto the north; it whirls about continually, and the wind returns again according to his circuits" (Ecclesiastes 1:6).

10. Science expresses the universe in five terms: time, space, matter, power, and motion. Genesis 1:1,2 revealed such truths to the Hebrews in 1450 B.C.: "In the beginning [time] God created [power] the heaven [space] and the earth [matter] . . . And the Spirit of God moved [motion] upon the face of the waters." The first thing God tells man is that He controls of all aspects of the universe.

11. The great biological truth concerning the importance of blood in our bodys mechanism has been fully comprehended only in recent years. Up until 120 years ago, sick people were "bled," and many died because of the practice. If you lose your blood, you lose your life. Yet Leviticus 17:11, written 3,000 years ago, declared that blood is the source of life: "For the life of the flesh is in the blood."

12. All things were made by Him (see John 1:3), including dinosaurs. Why then did the dinosaur disappear? The answer may be in Job 40:1524. In this passage, God speaks about a great creature called "behemoth." Some commentators think this was a hippopotamus. However, the hippos tail isnt like a large tree, but a small twig. Following are the characteristics of this huge animal: It was the largest of all the creatures God made; was plant-eating (herbivorous); had its strength in its hips and a tail like a large tree. It had very strong bones, lived among the trees, drank massive amounts of water, and was not disturbed by a raging river. He appears impervious to attack because his nose could pierce through snares, but Scripture says, "He that made him can make his sword to approach unto him." In other words, God caused this, the largest of all the creatures He had made, to become extinct.

13. Encyclopedia Britannica documents that in 1845, a young doctor in Vienna named Dr. Ignaz Semmelweis was horrified at the terrible death rate of women who gave birth in hospitals. As many as 30 percent died after giving birth. Semmelweis noted that doctors would examine the bodies of patients who died, then, without washing their hands, go straight to the next ward and examine expectant mothers. This was their normal practice, because the presence of microscopic diseases was unknown. Semmelweis insisted that doctors wash their hands before examinations, and the death rate immediately dropped to 2 percent. Look at the specific instructions God gave His people for when they encounter disease: "And when he that has an issue is cleansed of his issue; then he shall number to himself even days for his cleansing, and wash his clothes, and bathe his flesh in running water, and shall be clean" (Leviticus 15:13). Until recent years, doctors washed their hands in a bowl of water, leaving invisible germs on their hands. However, the Bible says specifically to wash hands under "running water."

14. Luke 17:3436 says the Second Coming of Jesus Christ will occur while some are asleep at night and others are working at daytime activities in the field. This is a clear indication of a revolving earth, with day and night at the same time.

15. "During the devastating Black Death of the fourteenth century, patients who were sick or dead were kept in the same rooms as the rest of the family. People often wondered why the disease was affecting so many people at one time. They attributed these epidemics to bad air or evil spirits. However, careful attention to the medical commands of God as revealed in Leviticus would have saved untold millions of lives. Arturo Castiglione wrote about the overwhelming importance of this biblical medical law: The laws against leprosyin Leviticus 13 may be regarded as the first model of sanitary legislation (A History of Medicine)." Grant R. Jeffery, The Signature of God With all these truths revealed in Scripture,how could a thinking person deny that the Bible is supernatural in origin? There is no other book in any of the worlds religions (Vedas, Bhagavad-Gita, Koran, Book of Mormon, etc.) that contains scientific truth. In fact, they contain statements that are clearly unscientific. Hank Hanegraaff said, "Faith in Christ is not some blind leap into a dark chasm, but a faith based on established evidence." (11:3 continued)

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Re: Scientific Facts in the Bible [#1295]
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2009, 10:59:53 PM »
This thread is about lab-grown dicks, not some mincy, old, British poof of an actor. 

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Re: Scientific Facts in the Bible [#1295]
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2009, 11:04:30 PM »
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Re: Scientific Facts in the Bible [#1295]
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2009, 11:28:42 PM »
And each one of those can be refuted and each one is nothing but your religion trying to reconcile science with the Bible.  It just doesn't work.  You can take any nondescript and vague passage from any piece of literature and morph the words "in a different light" to fit any religious, personal, or biased agenda.
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Re: Scientific Facts in the Bible [#1295]
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2009, 11:40:20 PM »
God killed the dinosaurs?  What did they ever do to him?

This is a ridiculous post.  Expand your mind OP, read some rational books.
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Re: Scientific Facts in the Bible [#1295]
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2009, 08:46:18 AM »
Please tell us what scientific advancements have come about because of the "divine insight" of the bible and not because of thousands and thousands of man hours studying and experimenting.  Seriously.
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Re: Scientific Facts in the Bible [#1295]
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2009, 08:58:01 AM »
I would refute some of those points, but I don't condone plagiarism.
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Re: Scientific Facts in the Bible [#1295]
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2009, 09:44:25 AM »
science is plagiarism.  you take other peoples work and redo  it 400 times to prove it was right.  oh wait it is not plagiarism if you quote the person that wrote it. 
 that is right.  you guys are being hypocritical and judgemental just like you tell the christains not to be.  You are sad.   

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Re: Scientific Facts in the Bible [#1295]
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2009, 09:52:59 AM »
science is plagiarism.  you take other peoples work and redo  it 400 times to prove it was right.  oh wait it is not plagiarism if you quote the person that wrote it. 
 that is right.  you guys are being hypocritical and judgemental just like you tell the christains not to be.  You are sad.   

For someone that cannot even describe much less understand basic scientific methodology, I'm not really concerned.
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Re: Scientific Facts in the Bible [#1295]
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2009, 10:00:52 AM »
science is plagiarism.  you take other peoples work and redo  it 400 times to prove it was right. 

It's not to prove it was right.  In fact, showing where it's wrong is in the interest of the scientist.

oh wait it is not plagiarism if you quote the person that wrote it. 

It's not plagiarism if you give credit where credit is due.

that is right.  you guys are being hypocritical and judgemental just like you tell the christains not to be.  You are sad.   

How are we being hypocritical?
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Re: Scientific Facts in the Bible [#1295]
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2009, 10:40:23 AM »
science is plagiarism.  you take other peoples work and redo  it 400 times to prove it was right.  oh wait it is not plagiarism if you quote the person that wrote it. 
 that is right.  you guys are being hypocritical and judgemental just like you tell the christains not to be.  You are sad.   

For someone that has demonstrated a lacking of knowledge of what science is and how it operates you sure do carry a big stick.
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Re: Scientific Facts in the Bible [#1295]
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2009, 10:52:49 AM »
I'm pretty sure the safest time to circumcise is..... never.

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4. The prophet Isaiah also tells us that the earth is round: "It is he that sits upon the circle of the earth" (Isaiah 40:22). This is not a reference to a flat disk, as some skeptic maintain, but to a sphere. Secular man discovered this 2,400 years later. At a time when science believed that the earth was flat, is was the Scriptures that inspired Christopher Columbus to sail around the world (see Proverbs 3:6 footnote).

This seems like special pleading

Also... globes were invented before Columbus set sail

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5. God told Job in 1500 B.C.: "Can you send lightnings, that they may go, and say to you, Here we are?" (Job 38:35). The Bible here is making what appears to be a scientifically ludicrous statement—that light can be sent, and then manifest itself in speech. But did you know that radio waves travel at the speed of light? This is why you can have instantaneous wireless communication with someone on the other side of the earth. Science didn't discover this until 1864 when "British scientist James Clerk Maxwell suggested that electricity and light waves were two forms of the same thing" (Modern Century Illustrated Encyclopedia).

No, you're (the original source) warping this to fit your stories, and what about shutting the sea with doors and unicorns then?

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7. Science has discovered that stars emit radio waves, which are received on earth as a high pitch. God mentioned this in Job 38:7: "When the morning stars sang together..."

What a desperate and grotesque distortion... and what about stars falling to earth and being stomped on?

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8. "Most cosmologists (scientists who study the structures and evolution of the universe) agree that the Genesis account of creation, in imagining an initial void, may be uncannily close to the truth" (Time, Dec. 1976).

The universe doesn't evolve, in the biological sense so I can't take this seriously

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9. Solomon described a "cycle" of air currents two thousand years before scientists "discovered" them. "The wind goes toward the south, and turns about unto the north; it whirls about continually, and the wind returns again according to his circuits" (Ecclesiastes 1:6).

If you're speaking of jet streams, you're going the wrong way. What is to stop this from describing tornadoes or other weather phenomena which were, indeed, visible?

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10. Science expresses the universe in five terms: time, space, matter, power, and motion. Genesis 1:1,2 revealed such truths to the Hebrews in 1450 B.C.: "In the beginning [time] God created [power] the heaven [space] and the earth [matter] . . . And the Spirit of God moved [motion] upon the face of the waters." The first thing God tells man is that He controls of all aspects of the universe.

Other than the desperate redefinition: force, energy, density, momentum, acceleration, velocity, jerk, snap, crackle, pop (no, I'm not making those up,) length, width, depth, etc. Five is ludicrous

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11. The great biological truth concerning the importance of blood in our bodys mechanism has been fully comprehended only in recent years. Up until 120 years ago, sick people were "bled," and many died because of the practice. If you lose your blood, you lose your life. Yet Leviticus 17:11, written 3,000 years ago, declared that blood is the source of life: "For the life of the flesh is in the blood."


Never mind this could be a modernization of the translations, but you know who did the bloodletting? I'll give you a hint, Christian hospitals.

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12. All things were made by Him (see John 1:3), including dinosaurs. Why then did the dinosaur disappear? The answer may be in Job 40:1524. In this passage, God speaks about a great creature called "behemoth." Some commentators think this was a hippopotamus. However, the hippos tail isn't like a large tree, but a small twig. Following are the characteristics of this huge animal: It was the largest of all the creatures God made; was plant-eating (herbivorous); had its strength in its hips and a tail like a large tree. It had very strong bones, lived among the trees, drank massive amounts of water, and was not disturbed by a raging river. He appears impervious to attack because his nose could pierce through snares, but Scripture says, "He that made him can make his sword to approach unto him." In other words, God caused this, the largest of all the creatures He had made, to become extinct.

This is vague, largest in what respect? Tallest? Widest? Heaviest? Most voluminous in general? Because they all have different answers

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13. Encyclopedia Britannica documents that in 1845, a young doctor in Vienna named Dr. Ignaz Semmelweis was horrified at the terrible death rate of women who gave birth in hospitals. As many as 30 percent died after giving birth. Semmelweis noted that doctors would examine the bodies of patients who died, then, without washing their hands, go straight to the next ward and examine expectant mothers. This was their normal practice, because the presence of microscopic diseases was unknown. Semmelweis insisted that doctors wash their hands before examinations, and the death rate immediately dropped to 2 percent. Look at the specific instructions God gave His people for when they encounter disease: "And when he that has an issue is cleansed of his issue; then he shall number to himself even days for his cleansing, and wash his clothes, and bathe his flesh in running water, and shall be clean" (Leviticus 15:13). Until recent years, doctors washed their hands in a bowl of water, leaving invisible germs on their hands. However, the Bible says specifically to wash hands under "running water."

Actually, it's cleaner to boil those things, just more dangerous to the skin, and it can shrink some clothes

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Re: Scientific Facts in the Bible [#1295]
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2009, 11:14:10 AM »
science is plagiarism.  you take other peoples work and redo  it 400 times to prove it was right.  oh wait it is not plagiarism if you quote the person that wrote it. 
 that is right.  you guys are being hypocritical and judgemental just like you tell the christains not to be.  You are sad.   

Someone needs to look up the word "plagiarism":

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pla?gia?rism? ?/?ple?d???r?z?m, -d?i??r?z-/  Show Spelled Pronunciation [pley-juh-riz-uhm, -jee-uh-riz-]  Show IPA
–noun 1. the unauthorized use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work.
2. something used and represented in this manner.

(emphasis mine)

Do you know what "citation" is, wetlandman?
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Re: Scientific Facts in the Bible [#1295]
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2009, 11:40:56 AM »
The OP is more pathetic than Afadly's posts about science in the Koran.

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Re: Scientific Facts in the Bible [#1295]
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2009, 02:18:29 PM »
science is plagiarism.  you take other peoples work and redo  it 400 times to prove it was right.  oh wait it is not plagiarism if you quote the person that wrote it. 
 that is right.  you guys are being hypocritical and judgemental just like you tell the christains not to be.  You are sad.   

It's not plagiarism if 1. You have permission from the author. 2. You source the material in which you're using. 3. Emulation is not Plagiarism.

Now, what number did the OP do? #1 can't be verified, especially since s/he didn't state that they got permission to copy/paste the above anywhere (nor provide a link), and 2 and 3 is out the door, as well.

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Re: Scientific Facts in the Bible [#1295]
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2009, 09:02:18 PM »
and also, science isn't about proving things right, it's about trying to prove things wrong, to find flaws, so that it's able to be completely correct, proving things right is a waste of time
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Re: Scientific Facts in the Bible [#1295]
« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2009, 09:35:33 PM »
I had started to answer each of the points, but then I realized that I had already done it in another thread. Copy & Paste Christians, never coming up with anything original.

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Re: Scientific Facts in the Bible [#1295]
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2009, 09:37:50 PM »
By the proposition put forth by wetlandman100: "You take other peoples work and redo it 400 times to prove it was right" every time someone states the fact that the Earth revolves around the sun they are in fact committing plagiarism.

Every time we talk of evolution we are committing plagiarism against Charles Darwin.
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Re: Scientific Facts in the Bible [#1295]
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2009, 10:38:47 PM »
By the proposition put forth by wetlandman100: "You take other peoples work and redo it 400 times to prove it was right" every time someone states the fact that the Earth revolves around the sun they are in fact committing plagiarism.

Every time we talk of evolution we are committing plagiarism against Charles Darwin.

Well, if we're going by that logic, everything written, even what I'm writing right now, can be construed as plagiarism because this conversation, I am sure, has gone on before somewhere else, and the same answers have been given by other people. So, I am plagiarizing right now.

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