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Triumphal Entry - April 6, 32 A.D.
« on: April 06, 2009, 12:59:41 AM »
Is April 6, 32 A.D. the exact prophetic date that Daniel spoke of concerning the arrival of the Messiah to Jerusalem. This is the event we now know as the the triumphal entry when Jesus arrived in Jerusalem. Daniel 9:25, "So you are to know and discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince there will be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; it will be built again, with plaza and moat, even in times of distress. Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing.

There are four possible decrees that were given to restore Jerusalem all around a hundred years of each other, however there is only one that mentions the rebuilding of the walls of Jerusalem, which makes it the strongest candidate. Artaxerxes gave the command during the month of Nisan, which would be between February 27 to March 14, 445 B.C.

Nehemiah 2, “In the month of Nisan in the twentieth year of King Artaxerxes, when wine was brought for him, I took the wine and gave it to the king. I had not been sad in his presence before; so the king asked me, “Why does your face look so sad when you are not ill? This can be nothing but sadness of heart.” I was very much afraid, but I said to the king, “May the king live forever! Why should my face not look sad when the city where my fathers are buried lies in ruins, and its gates have been destroyed by fire?” The king said to me, “What is it you want?” Then I prayed to the God of heaven, and I answered the king, “If it pleases the king and if your servant has found favor in his sight, let him send me to the city in Judah where my fathers are buried so that I can rebuild it.” Then the king, with the queen sitting beside him, asked me, “How long will your journey take, and when will you get back?” It pleased the king to send me; so I set a time. I also said to him, “If it pleases the king, may I have letters to the governors of Trans-Euphrates, so that they will provide me safe-conduct until I arrive in Judah?  And may I have a letter to Asaph, keeper of the king’s forest, so he will give me timber to make beams for the gates of the citadel by the temple and for the city wall and for the residence I will occupy?” And because the gracious hand of my God was upon me, the king granted my requests. So I went to the governors of Trans-Euphrates and gave them the king’s letters. The king had also sent army officers and cavalry with me. When Sanballat the Horonite and Tobiah the Ammonite official heard about this, they were very much disturbed that someone had come to promote the welfare of the Israelites.

We know that a week equals seven years as used in the context mentioned in Daniel. "Seven weeks and sixty two weeks" would tally up a total of sixty nine weeks. The Jewish calendar has a three hundred and sixty day year, so sixty nine weeks of three hundred and sixty day years would equal 173,880 days, Artaxerxes gave the command to rebuild Jerusalem no later than March 14, 445 B.C., Jesus pronounced Himself King on April 6, 32 A.D., from March 14th, 445 B.C. to April 6, 32 A.D. is a total of 173,880 days. Right on target.

Let's look further and do the math using the Jewish calendar using a 360 day year.
69 weeks of years equates to 69 (weeks) x 7 (years) = 483 (years)
483 (years) x 360 (days of the year) = 173,880 (days until Messiah)
March 14, 445 B.C. to April 6, 32 A.D = 173,880 days

This also works if we use the 365 day calendar year.
476 years (from March 14, 445 B.C. to March 14th, 32 A.D.) x 365 days per year = 173,740 days
173,740 days + 116 days (leap years) + 24 days (March 14th to April 6th) = 173,880 days.

So is there any way to verify the triumphal entry of Jesus Christ on April 6, 32 A.D.? In the book of Luke we find that Jesus was baptized in the 15th year of Tiberius, in which his reign began on August 19, 14 A.D. This places the starting point of Jesus' ministry in the year 28 A.D., which spanned three and a half years. Placing the triumphal entry on April 6, 32 A.D. Anyways, couple this with the prophecy of Genesis 49:10 and many of the Jewish writings concerning the appearance and timing of the Messiah and you have a significant display of God's foreknowledge. There are other aspects to this, one of them being that the Messiah would be cut off and so forth, but I'll address those at a later time.
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Re: Triumphal Entry - April 6, 32 A.D.
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2009, 01:14:21 AM »
But, Jesus wasn't the long awaited Jewish Messiah.  As such, why bother referencing the OT (a book that tends to take liberties with the Talmud instead of being a copy of it).

http://jewsforjudaism.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=374&Itemid=234

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Judge for yourself: Did Jesus fulfill ALL these criteria?

The Jewish tradition of “The Messiah” has its foundation in numerous biblical references, and understands “The Messiah” to be a human being - without any overtone of deity or divinity - who will bring about certain changes in the world and fulfill certain criteria before he can be acknowledged as “The Messiah”.

First of all, he must be Jewish - “…you may appoint a king over you, whom the L-rd your G-d shall choose: one from among your brethren shall you set as king over you.” (Deuteronomy 17:15)

He must be a member of the tribe of Judah - “The staff shall not depart from Judah, nor the sceptre from between his feet…” (Genesis 49:10)

To be a member of the tribe of Judah, the person must have a biological father who is a member of the tribe of Judah.

He must be a direct male descendant of King David and King Solomon, his son - “And when your days (David) are fulfilled, and you shall sleep with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, who shall issue from your bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build a house for my name, and I will make firm the throne of his kingdom forever…” (2 Samuel 7:12 - 13)

The genealogy of the New Testament is inconsistent. While it gives two accounts of the genealogy of Joseph, it states clearly that he is not the biological father of Jesus. One of the genealogies is through Nathan and not Solomon altogether!

He must gather the Jewish people from exile and return them to Israel -”And he shall set up a banner for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.” (Isaiah 11:12)

Are all Jews living in Israel? Have all Jews EVER lived in Israel since the time of Jesus?

He must rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem - “…and I will set my sanctuary in their midst forever and my tabernacle shall be with them..” (Ezekiel 37:26 - 27)

At last check, there is NO Temple in Jerusalem. And worse, it was shortly after Jesus died that the Temple was DESTROYED! Just the opposite of this prophecy!

He will rule at a time of world-wide peace - “…they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore.” (Micah 4:3)

Have you seen a newspaper lately? Are we living in a state of complete world peace? Has there ever been peace since the time of Jesus?

He will rule at a time when the Jewish people will observe G-d’s commandments - “My servant David shall be king over them; and they shall all have one shepherd. They shall follow My ordinances and be careful to observe My statutes.” (Ezekiel 37:24)

The Torah is the Jewish guide to life, and its commandments are the ones referred to here. Do all Jews observe all the commandments? Christianity, in fact, often discourages observance of the commandments in Torah, in complete opposition to this prophecy.

He will rule at a time when all people will come to acknowledge and serve one G-d - “And it shall come to pass that from one new moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before Me, says the L-rd” (Isaiah 66:23)

there are still millions if not billions of people in the world today who adhere to paganistic and polytheistic religions. It is clear that we have not yet seen this period of human history unfold.

All of these criteria are best stated in the book of Ezekiel Chapter 37 verses 24-28:

And David my servant shall be king over them; and they shall all have one shepherd. they shall also follow My judgments and observe My statutes, and do them. And they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Yaakov my servant, in which your fathers have dwelt and they shall dwell there, they and their children, and their children’s children forever; and my servant David shall be their prince forever. Moreover, I will make a covenant of peace with them, it shall be an everlasting covenant with them, which I will give them; and I will multiply them and I will set my sanctuary in the midst of them forevermore. And my tabernacle shall be with them: and I will be their G-d and they will be my people. Then the nations shall know that I am the L-rd who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary will be in the midst of them forevermore.

If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be “The Messiah.” A careful analysis of these criteria shows us that to date, no one has fulfilled every condition.

Certainly NOT Jesus.
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Re: Triumphal Entry - April 6, 32 A.D.
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2009, 01:45:13 AM »
Not to mention how does it take 500 years to rebuild a single city? Let alone when you have the support of the king. And that's before we factor in slave labor in a society with an abundant supply.

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Re: Triumphal Entry - April 6, 32 A.D.
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2009, 07:40:52 AM »
So is there any way to verify the triumphal entry of Jesus Christ on April 6, 32 A.D.? In the book of Luke we find that Jesus was baptized in the 15th year of Tiberius, in which his reign began on August 19, 14 A.D. This places the starting point of Jesus' ministry in the year 28 A.D., which spanned three and a half years. Placing the triumphal entry on April 6, 32 A.D. Anyways, couple this with the prophecy of Genesis 49:10 and many of the Jewish writings concerning the appearance and timing of the Messiah and you have a significant display of God's foreknowledge.

Of course, we have that pesky Gospel of Matthew to deal with, which clearly places Jesus' birth during the reign of Herod the Great, who died in 4 BC. But by all means, don't let that interfere with your exercise in cherry-picking...

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Re: Triumphal Entry - April 6, 32 A.D.
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2009, 07:58:20 AM »
If anyone is interested, here is a very thorough refutation of the Christian hijack of Daniel 9: DANIEL 9:17-27: THE SEVENTY WEEKS OF YEARS AS TAKEN FROM THE HEBREW SCRIPTURES.
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