Christian Group Blames Secularism, Gay Marriage for Recent Mass Shootings

[jedweber]

The president of Morality in Media, a conservative Christian activist group, wants us to know that he's opposed to "making guns the scapegoat" for the recent epidemic of mass murders in America. Instead, we should blame the "secular value system," and the gays!

http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/904759988.html

Connecting the Dots: The Link Between Gay Marriage and Mass Murders
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I am not an opponent of gun regulation; I am an opponent of making guns the scapegoat for mass murder.
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"The underlying problem is that increasingly we live in a 'post-Christian' society, where Judeo-Christian faith and values have less and less influence. Among other things, Judaism and Christianity taught that murder was wrong and that included murder motivated by anger, hatred and revenge. Both religions also taught that we are to love our neighbor as ourselves and to forgive others.

"For many citizens, what has replaced Judeo-Christian faith and values is the secular value system that is reflected in films, rap/music lyrics, and videogames and on TV and now the Internet, where the taking of human life for just about any reason is commonplace and is often portrayed in an appealing manner and in realistic detail. Murder motivated by hatred and revenge is also justified.

"This secular value system is also reflected in the 'sexual revolution,' which is the driving force behind the push for 'gay marriage;' and the Iowa Supreme Court decision is another indication that despite all the damage this revolution has caused to children, adults, family life and society (think abortion, divorce, pornography, rape, sexual abuse of children, sexually transmitted diseases, trafficking in women and children, unwed teen mothers and more), it continues to advance relentlessly.

And this:

"It most certainly is not my intention to blame the epidemic of mass murders on the gay rights movement!"

...but he'll do it anyway...

It is my intention to point out that the success of the sexual revolution is inversely proportional to the decline in morality; and it is the decline of morality (and the faith that so often under girds it) that is the underlying cause of our modern day epidemic of mass murders.

[Nam]

You know, all these rappers that he talks about wear these huge silver/platinum/gold crosses around their necks. They are also, many of them, Protestant Christians, and the two religions prevalent in "Hollywood" is Judaism and Roman Catholicism; most movies I own (and I own a lot) show these two religions in some of the most violent films: The Godfather -- Roman Catholic -- 15 Minutes -- Roman Catholic -- Primal Fear -- Roman Catholic The Passion of the Christ (one of the most violent films of all time) -- Roman Catholic -- Kingdom of Heaven -- Roman Catholic/Muslim -- Gladiator -- Roman Gods? -- Zack and Miri Make a Porno -- Roman Catholic/Jewish -- Munich -- Jewish etc., Battlefield Earth -- Scientology

My point, how many films that come out of "Hollywood" are made by Atheists? Not many. Religious people are the top players by Studio, by Director, by Actors/Actresses etc., So, it's "Religion" by such a statement that is turning the world Secular, no? And accepting of Homosexuality, no? Catholics and Jews outnumber Atheists 10:1 in Hollywood (p.g.s.) yet Atheists and Secularists, and Homosexuals are the ones who get blamed for how Hollywood is, or how music is, or how video games are, or how the internet is, or whatever. Atheists do not rule the U.S. Christians do.

-Nam

[jedweber]

Yeah, but a group like this probably thinks that liberal or non-practicing Christians and Jews are just as bad as atheists and gays...

[Nam]

Yeah, but a group like this probably thinks that liberal or non-practicing Christians and Jews are just as bad as atheists and gays...

You're probably right. Hell, they brought don't think they are just as bad as atheists and gays but that they in fact are atheists and gays.

-Nam

[jynnan tonnix]

You know, all these rappers that he talks about wear these huge silver/platinum/gold crosses around their necks. They are also, many of them, Protestant Christians, and the two religions prevalent in "Hollywood" is Judaism and Roman Catholicism; most movies I own (and I own a lot) show these two religions in some of the most violent films: The Godfather -- Roman Catholic -- 15 Minutes -- Roman Catholic -- Primal Fear -- Roman Catholic The Passion of the Christ (one of the most violent films of all time) -- Roman Catholic -- Kingdom of Heaven -- Roman Catholic/Muslim -- Gladiator -- Roman Gods? -- Zack and Miri Make a Porno -- Roman Catholic/Jewish -- Munich -- Jewish etc., Battlefield Earth -- Scientology

My point, how many films that come out of "Hollywood" are made by Atheists? Not many. Religious people are the top players by Studio, by Director, by Actors/Actresses etc., So, it's "Religion" by such a statement that is turning the world Secular, no? And accepting of Homosexuality, no? Catholics and Jews outnumber Atheists 10:1 in Hollywood (p.g.s.) yet Atheists and Secularists, and Homosexuals are the ones who get blamed for how Hollywood is, or how music is, or how video games are, or how the internet is, or whatever. Atheists do not rule the U.S. Christians do.

-Nam

You forgot "The Boondock Saints"...my son's favorite

[Nam]

Oh, yes. The Boondock Saints, also Roman Catholic. That is an extremely violent film. Dogma, that's another movie, highly sexual, profane, and vulgar written and directed by and starring Roman Catholics. However, one of the producers and co-owners of View Askew is an Agnostic-Atheist but that's one guy amongst so many. And when you think of Kevin Smith movies you don't think of Scott Mosier. Almost anyone hearing that name would go: Who?

Here's a list of Celebrities by Religion (and non-Religion), if one goes through the totality of the lists, they will see that there are more Religious people in Hollywood (and that of Catholics and Protestant Christians) then there are of Atheists/Agnostics etc.,

Click Here

-Nam

[Frank]

He's a woman who blew her own sons brains out and then her own. Apparently she thought she was the antichrist.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25309985-5012748,00.html

There's even a video. Cool or what?

I've said this a thousand times. Instead of finding something to blame face up to the facts. If you want people to stop shooting each other (which in the case of Americans I seriously doubt you give a shit ) then take away the means. Until you do these shootings will simply continue ad infinitum regardless of who or what you blame.

[Nam]

Well, people think they have a "right to bear arms" in the United States, even though that passage was towards "militias". Apparently they always leave that part out when they preach about guns are a Constitutional right.

-Nam

[Frank]

Well, people think they have a "right to bear arms" in the United States, even though that passage was towards "militias". Apparently they always leave that part out when they preach about guns are a Constitutional right.

-Nam

Is there anything in there about the constitutional right not to get shot dead by some nut with a gun?

[Nam]

Probably but like the Bible the U.S. Constitution is interpreted in a way that pleases certain groups and/or people.

-Nam

[Frank]

Just google this "Father shoots family" the list is horrendous.