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Offline DL

kudos [#1075]
« on: February 16, 2009, 07:30:02 PM »
Very, very well done. I look forward to perusing all of your web site, and spreading
the word indeed.
 
For the record, I am a new agnostic, fresh "out of the closet" this year. Thanks to
you, Sam Harris, and so many others, for helping me in this transition. Ah...so many
fundamentalist family members, so little time.  
 
I am writing to comment on the word "belief." I am convinced that it is a useless
word. Can you think of one sentence, using the word "belief," where I would be
unable to substitute that word with another, thereby improving the clarity of the
sentence (and inherent lack of honesty for that matter?). I can't!
 
Belief, simply put, is nothing more than a willingness to be delusional. I don't
"believe" I'll live until 80. I hope. I don't believe a meaning of life exists. I
trust. I don't believe I'll have a beer with supper. I suspect it probable.
 
Belief??? BS!!!!
 
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Re: kudos [#1075]
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2009, 07:58:21 PM »
Well, if you're looking for a place to discuss your new agnostic outlook, this forum is a great place to do it! :)
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Re: kudos [#1075]
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2009, 10:53:16 AM »
Ah...so many fundamentalist family members, so little time.  

You may want to be careful with that thought.  Remember when you first became a Christian and you wanted to evangelize to the whole world?  You may not want to go at family members right away, guns blazing, with how stupid their belief system is.

Hate the stupid, not the person.
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Re: kudos [#1075]
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2009, 12:03:54 PM »
Ah...so many fundamentalist family members, so little time.  

You may want to be careful with that thought.  Remember when you first became a Christian and you wanted to evangelize to the whole world?  You may not want to go at family members right away, guns blazing, with how stupid their belief system is.

Hate the stupid, not the person.

ah but when does being willfully ignorant become that person's choice.  Then I think, I can, if not hate, really be disgusted by the "person". 
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Re: kudos [#1075]
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2009, 01:12:32 PM »
Well I wasn't trying to be to literal or "deep" with that post.  Just saying you don't have to immediately completely disown all of your relatives when you become a non believer.  Or for that matter, think that you are going to talk everyone out of their beliefs right away.
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Re: kudos [#1075]
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2009, 02:53:24 PM »
belief/believe/believing isn't a bad word(s,) it's just been used in a way that disgraces it... :(
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