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Your videos against Christians [#871]
« on: December 29, 2008, 08:42:56 PM »

Hey, im not going to get too into this, and i know it's your opinion not to be a christian. But it really makes me mad when you diliberatley go on youtube and make these videos AGAINST Christianity. You don't see me or any other person making videos that completely offend other religions, or people who dont believe in anything at all. You post the most contreversal videos on youtube, it makes millions angry, and im one of them. I think you need to cut the crap about Christians, we believe God is real, because He is real. We have actual evidence that there is a Jesus of Nazereth. All of this stuff about how God isn't real and that prayers to Him aren't actually being answered, and how its just all in our minds because we have been taught false things really needs to stop. Your videos are wrong. I hope you find Christ one day.

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Re: Your videos against Christians [#871]
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2008, 08:46:07 PM »
Well, that is because the creator of the vids lives in the US of A, where Christianity is the primary religion.  If you drop by the forum, you will find we're not particularly fond of the stupid shit Islam (or any other religion, for that matter), does.

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Your videos are wrong

Would you care to back up that assertion at all?
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Re: Your videos against Christians [#871]
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2008, 08:50:17 PM »

Hey, im not going to get too into this, and i know it's your opinion not to be a christian. But it really makes me mad when you diliberatley go on youtube and make these videos AGAINST Christianity. You don't see me or any other person making videos that completely offend other religions, or people who dont believe in anything at all. You post the most contreversal videos on youtube, it makes millions angry, and im one of them. I think you need to cut the crap about Christians, we believe God is real, because He is real. We have actual evidence that there is a Jesus of Nazereth. All of this stuff about how God isn't real and that prayers to Him aren't actually being answered, and how its just all in our minds because we have been taught false things really needs to stop. Your videos are wrong. I hope you find Christ one day.

Once again, I'll point out that I'm merely a member of this forum, and I don't speak for the person who posts these videos.

I'm offended that people can teach children that they will be tortured in hell forever for not believing something.  I think that's child abuse, and does actual harm to the psyches of countless people.  I think the harm of the notion of "hellfire" is greater than the harm of you being offended by videos on YouTube.  As Richard Dawkins once said: "I am offended by chewing gum.  I am offended by backwards baseball caps.  So what?"  Where is the objective, empirically demonstrable harm in asserting that what you believe is wrong?  I think your religion is nonsensical, that if your god exists it is evil, and that your religion encourages a great deal of hate, pain and suffering.  And I couldn't give a toss if my opinion offends you, or even if it makes you angry.

If the videos are wrong, why don't you come here and show us exactly how they're wrong?  Prove us wrong.  Let us find Christ, as you clearly have such superior insight.

Also, I'll contest your assertion that there is "actual evidence" for Jesus of Nazareth.  The evidence for him is extremely scanty.  There are stories about him, but that no more proves that he existed than it proves that Harry Potter existed.
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Re: Your videos against Christians [#871]
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2008, 09:08:06 PM »
Here's a bit of direct honesty.

I'm not against Christians, I'm for humans.  Because religion -- including Christianity -- is a net negative on society and the real people in it, it is a moral duty to do something positive.  This is not an idle comment made without any support in reality ... see for yourself;

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If you disagree, and can deal in facts not bare assertions constrained by unconsidered dogmas, I'd like to hear from you.  If you can not, please do not post in the forums.  There is plenty of bigotry and ignorance from Christians on display here already.

Now that I've addressed your comments, I have a comment for you and a question;



I have noticed, as you may have as well, that there are Christians that do things in the name of Christianity that are negative.  Christians that promote bigotry and ignorance.  Christians that advocate actions that lead to harm and even death.  Christians that advocate not caring about this world and who want it to be destroyed in a polluted and fiery apocalypse.

If there were enough Christians that effectively dealt with those problems, I would not have any concerns.  Believe as you want.  As far as I would be concerned, the real world problems would be solved.

Unfortunately, that is not the world we are in.  Most Christians aren't doing nearly enough.   Many unfortunately are actively promoting these negative goals -- from paying money passively to going out and doing these negative actions themselves.  Some of the strongest advocates for those negative actions are the leaders and congregants of the larger Christian churches and organizations; this is not a problem with a few fringe groups or eccentric cult leaders.

Too many Christians not only do not take responsibility, they are leading the charge for these negative actions.  They justify bigotry and ignorance, they justify actions that result in the deaths of others that could be easily avoided.

As a responsible person, someone who cares about the world and the future of humanity, I have to act.  Even if it is not my fault that these Christians are doing harm, it is my responsibility to do something positive.  You can consider it a moral obligation.  If that means that I have to hold up a mirror so that my fellow humans look at what they believe, then I'll take that modest step.  Maybe that will be enough to drain the air out of some of those bad ideas?

My question to you is not what you believe, but what are you doing about the acts your fellow Christians perform in the name of Christianity that spread hate, bigotry, ignorance, pain, and death?
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Re: Your videos against Christians [#871]
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2008, 10:54:25 PM »
Hey, im not going to get too into this,

Ah, another hit and run. SSDD.


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and i know it's your opinion not to be a christian. But it really makes me mad when you diliberatley go on youtube and make these videos AGAINST Christianity.

Not nearly as mad as it makes me when people deliberately lie about what they know of reality. More so when they inflict these lies upon children.


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You don't see me or any other person making videos that completely offend other religions, or people who dont believe in anything at all.

No video required.  I get to see the physical manifestation of the inanity of organised religion every day of my life. 


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You post the most contreversal videos on youtube, it makes millions angry, and im one of them.

Don't you just love freedom of expression?  I certainly do.   The price you pay however is that you sometimes have to hear and see things that you may not like. Maybe you should get in some practice pressing the stop button on your media player.  I've got it down to under ten seconds now myself.  I'm quite proud.


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I think you need to cut the crap about Christians, we believe God is real, because He is real.

Thank you for another potential submission to FSTDT.


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We have actual evidence that there is a Jesus of Nazereth.

If this evidence indicates there was a supernatural aspect to this Jesus person you speak of then please present it. Otherwise it's irrelevant.


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All of this stuff about how God isn't real and that prayers to Him aren't actually being answered, and how its just all in our minds because we have been taught false things really needs to stop.

It will when you can provide evidence to the contrary.


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Your videos are wrong. I hope you find Christ one day.

Why?  Have you lost him?
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Re: Your videos against Christians [#871]
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2008, 11:02:46 AM »
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You don't see me or any other person making videos that completely offend other religions, or people who dont believe in anything at all.
Ah, yeah, I do.  Lots.

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