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« on: July 09, 2016, 01:06:00 PM »
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Hitler was demonized. Demons heavily influenced Hitler to kill all those people. God gave us His word the Bible to show us what to to and what not to do. He also gave us free will to follow His word or to follow the ways of man or Satan.

God is a fair god. If he wasn’t fair He would control us and make us not sin. He wouldn’t allow people to have affairs, kill others, buy a boat that causes them to go bankrupt, etc. He gave us free will to do as we please. It is our own fault that we don’t get healed from sickness, cancer, disease, obesity. Satan is the tyrant! He is the one the steal’s, kill’s, and destroy’s! Not God.

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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2016, 01:11:59 PM »
Kind of funny.  The guy list all kind of horrible things that can happen if we don't jump on God's side. Then he included going broke from buying a boat.  Seems it may be close to home for this guy.
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2016, 01:15:41 PM »
How can we choose not to do evil if demons control us? Not much "free will" if it's demons making us do these bad things.

Demons don't have "free will", right? So, why can't Biblegod control the demon?

Sounds like this guy "lucas" doesn't believe in responsibilty of oneself. Meaning: if we do good, it's Biblegod working through us so we do good (it gets the credit) and if we do bad it's demons that are making us do it.

So, we're just literal puppets to good and evil. Why do we even exist?

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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2016, 01:39:03 PM »
I wonder how this guy rationalizes Sodom and Gomorrah, or the Noah flood...both of those are pretty blatant examples of his god killing and destroying just because.
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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2016, 06:33:12 PM »
Does scripture actually state god gave humans free will??
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2. What if there is a rock in the middle of a road, a blind person is speeding towards it, ...they say that they can't see it.   Would you recommend him to keep speeding?

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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2016, 09:29:14 PM »
Does scripture actually state god gave humans free will??

Proverbs 16:9 (KJV):

"A man's heart deviseth his way: but the Lord directeth his steps."

There are other similar verses, that's the one i know off the top of my head (not in it ;))

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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2016, 09:05:59 AM »
Does scripture actually state god gave humans free will??

Proverbs 16:9 (KJV):

"A man's heart deviseth his way: but the Lord directeth his steps."

There are other similar verses, that's the one i know off the top of my head (not in it ;))

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Well, that is clear as mud.
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2016, 10:24:59 AM »
Nah...mud's clearer. It was also a pretty good movie.

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