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Re: Atheism- another term for ignorance
« Reply #203 on: December 16, 2008, 03:42:13 PM »
I figured he was a prophet of Kaflugism, the proof is in his words..
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Re: Atheism- another term for ignorance
« Reply #204 on: December 16, 2008, 04:07:31 PM »
Shall we call it Velkynology or Velkyninity? 

Whatever it's called, I can't wait to see what its universal symbol will be.  A giant V?  A small V?  Or, just to be suitably obscure, 5?
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Re: Atheism- another term for ignorance
« Reply #205 on: December 16, 2008, 04:09:39 PM »
I was thinking a triangle with a square inside it... why not? digression aside....

how is it ignorance not to believe in something's existence, s/he who believes this is ignorant, then unless they have read all books of all religions, and learned all there is of all religions, as you are accepting your ignorance to Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism, and all other religions, save your own... no?
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Re: Atheism- another term for ignorance
« Reply #206 on: December 16, 2008, 04:23:44 PM »
internal inconsistencies?
my friend, what you listed is just a series of contradictions that cannot exist in reality.
they are proven to be just words and have no relevance here because they simply do not exist.
god cannot microwave a burrito too hot for him to eat because that simply contradicts the reality of the word 'god' and the reality of the a 'burrito that is too hot to eat for a god'

So, your definition of "all-powerful" is "able to do all things, except those things which he cannot do"?  I guess I'm all powerful, then.

this is a similar example
god being all powerful cannot do things that just cannot exist in reality
such as change 2+2=4
being all powerful he cant just come out and change that simple self-evident 2+2 to equal 5
same goes for all those other contradictions
because those contradictions are simply self evident to not being able to exist in reality
they all amount to the same thing and do not disprove the existence of god in any way
smite a child molesting priest down on national tv and I will change my mind ...perhaps
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Re: Atheism- another term for ignorance
« Reply #207 on: December 16, 2008, 04:27:15 PM »
is there anyone here who could deny the remote possibility of the existence of a superior being?
and how?
and of bigfoot,dragons,unicorns,pixies,yeti's,talking snakes(lol),leviathin,a talking whale,500 yr. old men.......
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Re: Atheism- another term for ignorance
« Reply #208 on: December 16, 2008, 04:40:27 PM »
is there anyone here who could deny the remote possibility of the existence of a superior being?
and how?
and of bigfoot,dragons,unicorns,pixies,yeti's,talking snakes(lol),leviathin,a talking whale,500 yr. old men.......

hey man, that's pretty low, dragons ARE real!
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Re: Atheism- another term for ignorance
« Reply #209 on: December 16, 2008, 05:31:18 PM »
well then a one superior being to all in existence.

Is god superior to god? Or are you agreeing that god is not existent?

god superior to everything he created, assuming he created everything.

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Re: Atheism- another term for ignorance
« Reply #210 on: December 16, 2008, 05:33:29 PM »
i understand where youre going, and i would say no, but that would disprove his all-powerful ness right?

It does what it does.  Answer the question honestly.

then my answer is no.

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Re: Atheism- another term for ignorance
« Reply #211 on: December 16, 2008, 05:35:13 PM »
Define atheist.

One who renounces the notion that any all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-mighty being exists.

Then, uh, are we done in this thread?

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Re: Atheism- another term for ignorance
« Reply #212 on: December 16, 2008, 07:10:05 PM »
Define atheist.

One who renounces the notion that any all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-mighty being exists.

Then, uh, are we done in this thread?

apparently not... we're up to eight pages :D
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Re: Atheism- another term for ignorance
« Reply #213 on: December 16, 2008, 07:13:19 PM »
Interesting how you named yourself "ThePhilosopher" when you are clearly anything but...

Kind of like calling a big guy "tiny".

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Re: Atheism- another term for ignorance
« Reply #214 on: December 16, 2008, 07:20:28 PM »
apparently not... we're up to eight pages :D

No, I mean that he's an atheist now, by his own definition, and we didn't reach that point by ignorance, but rather by reasoning.

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Re: Atheism- another term for ignorance
« Reply #215 on: December 16, 2008, 07:20:54 PM »
Interesting how you named yourself "ThePhilosopher" when you are clearly anything but...

Kind of like calling a big guy "tiny".
or a fat guy slim
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Re: Atheism- another term for ignorance
« Reply #216 on: December 16, 2008, 07:27:47 PM »
apparently not... we're up to eight pages :D

No, I mean that he's an atheist now, by his own definition, and we didn't reach that point by ignorance, but rather by reasoning.

oh, indeed, in fact, I made mention of it on a previous page somewhere...
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Re: Atheism- another term for ignorance
« Reply #217 on: December 16, 2008, 07:29:52 PM »
Didn't catch that.

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Re: Atheism- another term for ignorance
« Reply #218 on: December 16, 2008, 07:36:08 PM »
I was thinking a triangle with a square inside it... why not? digression aside....

how is it ignorance not to believe in something's existence, s/he who believes this is ignorant, then unless they have read all books of all religions, and learned all there is of all religions, as you are accepting your ignorance to Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism, and all other religions, save your own... no?

and that's not even including the fact that he is an atheist to all those, as well

so technically I guess I didn't
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Re: Atheism- another term for ignorance
« Reply #219 on: December 16, 2008, 07:54:24 PM »
Can you logically demonstrate that it is impossible for a creation to be "superior" the the force that created it?  And by what standard of "superiority" do you make this claim?
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Re: Atheism- another term for ignorance
« Reply #220 on: December 18, 2008, 11:42:55 AM »
Can you logically demonstrate that it is impossible for a creation to be "superior" the the force that created it?  And by what standard of "superiority" do you make this claim?

that would go against the law that the effect cannot be superior to the cause.
that would make the creation the god.

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Re: Atheism- another term for ignorance
« Reply #221 on: December 18, 2008, 11:46:03 AM »
Can you logically demonstrate that it is impossible for a creation to be "superior" the the force that created it?  And by what standard of "superiority" do you make this claim?

that would go against the law that the effect cannot be superior to the cause.
that would make the creation the god.

You've just repeated the original claim. 
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Re: Atheism- another term for ignorance
« Reply #222 on: December 18, 2008, 11:55:00 AM »
It's all right.  ThePhilosopher has surely seen the error of his ways, having now admitted that he is an atheist like us, a position he arrived at by reason, not ignorance.  Surely, he'll glady admit the error of his original posts' assumptions, because he's a philosopher who is honest and has intellectual integrity.