All I can say is that I'm glad I don't live in your little world, you know, the one where you are absofrickiin'lutely helpless, except for the part where you might get to avoid demons if you pick exactly the right version of christianity. Here we all are, helpless puppets, forced to live through this battle between your god and your satan, free will out the door. The fact that we're sinners is being irrelevant because all we can do is sit in front of our TV sets and watch the events prophesied take place. Because there is no way for them not to take place.
What you fail to realize is the things prophesied to occur are man made. "If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened -- Mt 24:22. This situation is brought about by man, not God. God intervenes to stop it.
Manmade? Your god predicted it, so we're dong what he's making us do, right? And satan is right there, doing his part, so apparently it is both god and satan made, and we're just the puppets. (This is assuming your claims are real, which they are not.)
You see it as humans following lust and greed and stuff, and I see the story as one where god put everything in place and hence it has to happen. Apparently one of us has a higher opinion of imaginary creatures than the other.
You and your brethren have constructed a fantasy world, one in which you think you understand everything, know everything, can predict everything, and in which you are helpless, other than thinking that, as individuals, you can selectively choose whose ass to kiss.
If you are not helpless then end the building tensions between the U.S. and Russia. End the wars in the Middle East. Stop the problems in Ukraine. Stop the violence in Africa. Stop the development of more nuclear weapons and biological weapons. We are not talking about predictions. We're talking about reality. And what are you going to do? You're going to sit helplessly and watch.
There is certainly a measure of helplessness for all of us, but much of that helplessness comes from being subjects to the whims of various religious people who claim that their god is supportive of their various deadly causes. The religious are distorting reality so badly, and with such fervor, that it is impossible to talk sense into them. People of one god are busy flying airplanes into buildings belonging to people with other gods, people of yet another god are busy killing an imprisoned population of displaced peoples today as we speak, people of other gods are busy condemning everything from birth control to immigration to gays to businesses being open on Sunday, not from a rational perspective, but rather one that is dictated by their particular belief. This is not easy for us rational people to deal with, because believers don't consider it an opinion, but rather an imperative. Kind of hard to negotiate under those circumstances.
Satan's so called "fear" that his time is coming is, and I'm pretty sure this is just a coincidence , is exactly the same fear that christians have. That their own lives will actually end at death, a fear so great that they are willing to fantasize their whole lives about alternate endings just so they can make it through the day. You know, the day they've filled with so much terror and foreboding they can't enjoy it anyway.
Why do you think that?
Because I know way too many religious people who have expressed a major fear of death. And since they are also big on jesus and his dad, I tend to assume they are hoping like crazy to go to heaven after death, rather than just ceasing to exist. I've had religious people ask me how I can live with the thought that when I die, that's it. The idea clearly horrifies them. So that's why I think that. I'm pretty sure it is closer to being a universal than it is to being an anomaly.
You're doing it wrong. Each and every one of you. And you're ruining it for the rest of us.
What am I ruining for you?
Well, there is the simple stuff. The mormon who lives near me who has 67 kids at last count. The JW's that left a watchtower in my door last week. And then there is the idiotic stuff, like politicians who think they have to vote the way jesus would vote, even when it means voting not to provide fishes and loaves to the poor. And the aforementioned war crap. It all adds up.
If you are able to take even a smidgen of comfort from the story you just told, then you haven't a the slightest idea about what reality is. And yet you're proud of it.
The only comfort is that God will interefere and he "makes wars cease to the ends of the earth." (Ps 46:9)
I rest my case.
And of course, with your god taking his own sweet time about dealing with the devil, he gets to use that as an excuse to threaten us with crispy critterdom if we don't kowtow to his every whim, which he has lots of time for, since he's letting satan run the planet.
What do you mean "his every whim"? What are his "whims" for a Christian?
Whims? Like demanding worship, demanding faith, demanding obedience, threatening all kinds of crap, ignoring satan for a few centuries, etc. Along with all the new whims you guys keep finding (anti-gay, anti-women, anti-immigration, anti-anything Obama wants) and it becomes a whim controlled world real fast. There is no logic to any of it, but there sure are a lot of excuses. It gets old.
We're born, we live, and we die.
No that is not correct. There is going to be a resurrection of the dead because of the "whims" of the creator.
No, that is not correct. There will be only the recycling of your organic and inorganic components in to other things and other life forms. At some point in the future, a worm with a few atoms of carbon that were in you when you died will be eaten by a robin who has a few atoms of calcium that were once in you. The same will happen to me in my future. Such happenings will be common. Up until the time our planet becomes lifeless via the expansion of the sun. And then all of our little bits an pieces will meet again at the center of a black hole a bit later on.
Alice never went to Wonderland, Dorothy never went to Oz, and you'll never go to heaven. All are fictions.
Edit: Sorry, went all noob on my quotes there for a second and the post was ugly. Fixed it.