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an alternative version of the immaculate conception...
« on: July 06, 2014, 08:12:23 PM »
Three dirty old predators took advantage of a gullible village girl and when they got caught they told the superstitious irate father that god did it.


father was appeased and told the neighbors who told.....
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Re: an alternative version of the immaculate conception...
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2014, 08:17:16 PM »
Here is the alternative, on her wedding night her "husband" used his property ( Mary ) as he saw fit and impregnated her,or the more reasonable story they borrowed it from previous  religions that had a similar story.
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Re: an alternative version of the immaculate conception...
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2014, 08:21:14 PM »
She could have been a slave hubby raped and forced her into marriage, god said that its ok to do that.
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Re: an alternative version of the immaculate conception...
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2014, 08:32:45 PM »
The idea of "immaculate conception" does not refer to the virgin birth of Jesus.  It refers to the supposed sin-erasure of Mary during her own conception.

Get your terms straight.
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Re: an alternative version of the immaculate conception...
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2014, 08:46:52 PM »
Wait what? how was the conception performed and by who?

please no need to explain human copulation i mean how did.... oh never mind. could be kids watching.
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Re: an alternative version of the immaculate conception...
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2014, 08:56:40 PM »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/13/did-isaiah-really-predict-the-virgin-birth_n_2288917.html

There are some interesting things in this article, if you want to pick through it.

It seems strange that Matthew could pick on Isaiah 7:14, to prove that Jesus had a virgin birth, if details about his real birth were known. Jesus isn't just a virgin, he comes out of nowhere, at age 30. If he had an infancy, his childhood would have also been divine, and notable. We would have had a 3 year old Jesus, preaching to the Rabbis, and being authoritative before any child could even read. Then, it would have been much harder for a Roman to crucify a 4 year old.

A problem arises: why did the writers make Jesus 32 when he was killed? Was it just because someone wrote the narrative of Pilate, and that was fixed, and then someone else wrote some narrative that fixed his time of birth according to prophecy?



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Re: an alternative version of the immaculate conception...
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2014, 09:01:42 PM »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/13/did-isaiah-really-predict-the-virgin-birth_n_2288917.html

There are some interesting things in this article, if you want to pick through it.

It seems strange that Matthew could pick on Isaiah 7:14, to prove that Jesus had a virgin birth, if details about his real birth were known. Jesus isn't just a virgin, he comes out of nowhere, at age 30. If he had an infancy, his childhood would have also been divine, and notable. We would have had a 3 year old Jesus, preaching to the Rabbis, and being authoritative before any child could even read. Then, it would have been much harder for a Roman to crucify a 4 year old.

A problem arises: why did the writers make Jesus 32 when he was killed? Was it just because someone wrote the narrative of Pilate, and that was fixed, and then someone else wrote some narrative that fixed his time of birth according to prophecy?
the gospel of Thomas shows the early years of Jesus,omitted from the Nt,because it shows Jesus as a little petty prick. We simply can't have a Gospel that shows Jesus in a negative way
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