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Several questions for skeptic54768
« on: June 24, 2014, 04:40:24 PM »
Is the Bible a collection of books by different authors, or was it all written at once?

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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2014, 02:48:45 PM »
Wow no response to this simple question
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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2014, 03:28:33 PM »
Wow no response to this simple question

I've never seen a theist honestly answer questions they think are difficult. When they pretend to, it's always a dodge, obfuscation, or some other method to draw attention away from the tough question.
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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2014, 04:02:18 PM »
IT'S A TRAP!  ;D
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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2014, 04:07:34 PM »
IT'S A TRAP!  ;D

If skeptic54768's faith is well-supported, he should have nothing to fear. Not that it's a trap, though, because it's not. It's a question. The only way it could be interpreted as "a trap" is if his faith is not well-supported by logic, reason, eviden- holy shit, it IS a trap.
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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2014, 04:33:18 PM »
Is the Bible a collection of books by different authors, or was it all written at once?

False dichotomy.

It could have been written by different authors, at the same time.


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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2014, 04:45:42 PM »
Is the Bible a collection of books by different authors, or was it all written at once?

False dichotomy.

It could have been written by different authors, at the same time.

Dismissed. Only one of the answers I've provided is correct, but I want to hear what he thinks. EDIT: Obviously, if the answer he believes to be true is not among the ones I provided, he is free to proclaim his own.
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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2014, 05:43:52 PM »
Socrates must be spinning in his grave.





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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2014, 06:00:52 PM »
Never mind.
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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2014, 06:49:55 PM »
LOL.

I'd love to know what you originally said, but I missed it. Why did you withdraw your remarks, OOA?



And do you have an alternative response?


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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2014, 11:18:05 AM »
Do you guys think Skeptic is for real?   Or do you think some atheist with a Mt. Dew and bag of Doritos in his basement is sitting there tossing the same old failed religious challenges at this forum just to help us hone our arguments and keep things interesting?

He posts all the previously destroyed arguments of apologists and evangelicals, repeatedly.
He ignores replies to his posts that "win", like when there's overwhelming proof that God of the OT is not good or just or reasonable by the so-called objective standard of good that exists.

I really think it's a guy just chucking old failed arguments at people here to see how well we know how to defeat those arguments.   

It feels really easy, like the karate kid doing wax-on, wax-off routines.
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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2014, 02:47:34 PM »
Skep says some pretty wierd bat-shit crazy off the wall stuff in which there is no point in arguing though.

He's not really just presenting arguments, he says things which are completely ignorant of the facts in which you have to try and educate him first.  Also, he's been around for quite a while, that would be some pretty impressive dedicated trolling.

I think he believes the things he says at least most of the time.  Although I wouldn't be surprised if he says things that he doesn't really believe just to get a reaction.
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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2014, 05:49:50 PM »
Posting here in case skeptic54768 just missed it... &)
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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2014, 06:05:23 PM »
He is certainly superficial in his research even when it comes to. his own faith.


latest among many examples is the obelisk as proof of the catholic church run by demons fuk up.


i have a mixture of pity and morbid curiosity with his posts.
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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2014, 01:39:17 AM »
Is the OP a serious question? The answer is as obvious as the sun in a bright blue sky.

I would like to know if the OP is actually serious before I answer. If the OP is serious, I will seriously be disillusioned.
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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2014, 01:40:44 AM »
Wow no response to this simple question

Always so quick to jump the gun. I do not live on the internet like (maybe) some (nameless) people on here.
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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2014, 01:43:52 AM »
Skep says some pretty wierd bat-shit crazy off the wall stuff in which there is no point in arguing though.

But, imagine how it looks from my side:

"Matter arranged itself into plants and animals and the perfect atmosphere which burns up objects upon entry into it. It all came about mindlessly."

That could be considered "weird" and "crazy" from my side.
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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2014, 01:49:21 AM »
Difference is it there is evidence of how those things occurred you have a book of contradictions about a dude that spoke it into existence so we could worship it or go to hell.

you can't even be sure that you are not a demon or possessed by one.

Santa claus for adults is your immoral religion.
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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2014, 02:36:05 AM »
Is the OP a serious question? The answer is as obvious as the sun in a bright blue sky.

I would like to know if the OP is actually serious before I answer. If the OP is serious, I will seriously be disillusioned.

It is a question to assess what you believe about the Bible to avoid making a moot point. So yes, it is serious. Although I know the answer, I don't know what you believe in.
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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2014, 09:02:42 AM »
It is a question to assess what you believe about the Bible to avoid making a moot point. So yes, it is serious. Although I know the answer, I don't know what you believe in.

Of course the Bible is a collection of Books! I mentioned this many times on this forum. I tried to prove the Bible was a legitimate source by citing the fact that they were all separate books before they were compiled together and we can trust them.
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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2014, 10:10:10 AM »
It is a question to assess what you believe about the Bible to avoid making a moot point. So yes, it is serious. Although I know the answer, I don't know what you believe in.

Of course the Bible is a collection of Books! I mentioned this many times on this forum. I tried to prove the Bible was a legitimate source by citing the fact that they were all separate books before they were compiled together and we can trust them.

How does the bolded lend to their legitimacy? All it tells me is that these are the books that made the cut in the final editions.
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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2014, 10:26:18 AM »
Of course the Bible is a collection of Books! I mentioned this many times on this forum. I tried to prove the Bible was a legitimate source by citing the fact that they were all separate books before they were compiled together and we can trust them.

Very good. Now, what is the name of the church/religion that brought the books together?
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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2014, 11:23:40 AM »
If a Gospel is a gospel is a gospel,how can you omit any of them skeptic? They would all be important,deletion of a gospel would be blasphemous wouldn't it? How about revision of a gospel,ever seen an original copy of any gospel? Would the original scripture match current scripture? You have no clue,do you?
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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2014, 06:18:38 PM »
But, imagine how it looks from my side:

"Matter arranged itself into plants and animals and the perfect atmosphere which burns up objects upon entry into it. It all came about mindlessly."

That could be considered "weird" and "crazy" from my side.

Matter also mindlessly arranges itself into water which you drink and into organic chemicals which hit the earth in meteorites and comets. Look into space and everything you see from the sun to the stars to the galaxies has all formed by known mindless processes. Purposely created objects such as birds' nests and your computer are the exceptions in the universe. The universe is in fact hostile to purposely created objects and to any kind of purpose, as you discover each time your computer malfunctions, or your car breaks down, or your plane hits the ground. It is not just bad design, but the universe itself which is hostile to all purpose. Not even an omnipotent being could impose purpose on our universe.
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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2014, 06:26:17 PM »
What is the purpose of a rock pile on a distant planet. why would god create a few inanimate. rocks sitting on a lifeless planet .
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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2014, 07:42:07 PM »
What is the purpose of a rock pile on a distant planet. why would god create a few inanimate. rocks sitting on a lifeless planet .
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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2014, 01:45:04 AM »


Matter also mindlessly arranges itself into water which you drink and into organic chemicals which hit the earth in meteorites and comets. Look into space and everything you see from the sun to the stars to the galaxies has all formed by known mindless processes. Purposely created objects such as birds' nests and your computer are the exceptions in the universe. The universe is in fact hostile to purposely created objects and to any kind of purpose, as you discover each time your computer malfunctions, or your car breaks down, or your plane hits the ground. It is not just bad design, but the universe itself which is hostile to all purpose. Not even an omnipotent being could impose purpose on our universe.

But, I do not believe that all those things happen mindlessly. That was my point. Even a snowflake is infinitely more complex than anything man has ever built. Heck, even a pen cap needs a designer.

Order in nature indicates to me an ordered mind behind it.
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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2014, 02:43:22 AM »


Matter also mindlessly arranges itself into water which you drink and into organic chemicals which hit the earth in meteorites and comets. Look into space and everything you see from the sun to the stars to the galaxies has all formed by known mindless processes. Purposely created objects such as birds' nests and your computer are the exceptions in the universe. The universe is in fact hostile to purposely created objects and to any kind of purpose, as you discover each time your computer malfunctions, or your car breaks down, or your plane hits the ground. It is not just bad design, but the universe itself which is hostile to all purpose. Not even an omnipotent being could impose purpose on our universe.

But, I do not believe that all those things happen mindlessly. That was my point. Even a snowflake is infinitely more complex than anything man has ever built. Heck, even a pen cap needs a designer.

Order in nature indicates to me an ordered mind behind it.

What you're saying here, really brings religion down, though. You are saying that God created a bunch of people who were too dumb to understand a snow flake, but he then expects great things from us, and judges us. If we are continually evolving, to the point where one day, we will understand a snow flake, then it makes sense.
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Re: Several questions for skeptic54768
« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2014, 02:56:55 AM »
skeptic54768, answer my question. You answered Foxy Freedom's, so I doubt you could have missed mine, which had a relatively long, bold section.

Of course the Bible is a collection of Books! I mentioned this many times on this forum. I tried to prove the Bible was a legitimate source by citing the fact that they were all separate books before they were compiled together and we can trust them.

Very good. Now, what is the name of the church/religion that brought the books together?
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