Personally I think this would be a great topic for both of you to exchange your views. I can understand that both of you have different views, and it would be out of great respect towards eachother if you would explain it, because according to the beliefs of both of you, much is at stake.
As for JST
Well, are we wrong to point out the truth? The truth that Luk and Skep seem to think both are right and the other is wrong?
Pointing out the truth and coaxing them into an argument where all of you can just point and laugh are two different things.
"Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves." (Mt 10:16)
, implying, that this thread might be here for us to laugh, makes me wonder what you belief would be right in examining your faith, note not defending it. It is good to see you quote Matthew. I would like to try to contradict your point of view within your context. If I look at the bible, I could also argue that there is a instruction for you to test 'every spirit', by which you could be guided to set out the context of your belief.
1 John 4:1, "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world"
1 Corinthians 12:10: "to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits
, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues."
The fact that both Luke and Skeptic decided to join this forum is probably (I assume and please correct me if I'm wrong here
), is that they believe they have a message for us. Perhaps different from the ones we've heared before. In a way they feel that they are called to spread their message. Otherwise they would not dedicate their time and attention to us on this forum and argue with us, even when it sometimes means that they are being called out on. Wouldn't it then, especially for Luke and Skeptic be important that, they themselves distinguish between their message as they both felt called upon to share it with us?
If you think that the way to deal with things is through a loving approach, I would say, that's fine by me. BUT, that does not release you from a possible responsibility to test the views which you come across by throughout your spiritual journey:
1 Thessalonians 5: 20-22: "Do not treat prophecies with contempt but test them all; hold on to what is good, reject every kind of evil."
1 Corinthians 14:29: "Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said."
2 Tim 3:16-17: "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting
and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."
I would say that, especially because Lukevance and Skeptic are both believers but seem to have a different view on the prophetic authority which is underlying the Catholic Church vs. Skeptic his own take on Christianity, it is only in their best interest to 'test' the grounds on which these doctrines came into existence and is believed to guide them. Especially since for example some may believe that the Catholic church is based upon false teaching and prophecy, while some say the same applies to Evangelism, etc. etc. However, even with such beliefs, especially within the bible, there is freedom and instruction, to test them. Especially between believers themselves:
1 Corinthians 5:12: "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
This has nothing to do with atheism laughing, but everything to do with believers helping eachother in understanding shared common ground, perhaps without distorting to contempt.