I do not wish to get into an argument with Lukvance regarding his Church. As I have stated many times before, the heads of the Church (Pope, Bishops, Cardinals, Priests etc etc etc) all know who they are worshipping (Satan) but the people in the congregation may not know. This means they can still go to Heaven if they believe in Jesus as their Savior. God will forgive them. Now, obviously some of them hear this news about their Church and ignore it and stay in the Church. These are the ones God would be upset with.
Lukvance (I am sure) has heard all the stories about the Church being run by demons. If he chooses to stay in the Church then that is his free will decision and he will have to deal with it.
I can only be the messenger. I can't force someone to leave. Everyone is a grown adult capable of making their own decisions.
I am pretty sure that Lukvance does not believe that the Church is run by demons.
His free will decision is to follow god
. He believes that the Catholic church is the one, holy, and apostolic church of god
. According to you, the situation that may very be that Satan has convinced
Lukvance that he is actually following god
, when he is merely being tricked
into following god:
That is a false view. Satan masquerades as an angel of light. He'll be very nice to you if you're worshiping him. He will make you think you are worshiping God. He will give you things and you will think it's God giving them to you. He'll be your best pal, your best buddy....until the End Times when he will just laugh at you.
you and Lukvance are operating under the impression that yourselves are, in fact, actually
worshiping god (i.e. Lukvance believes he is following the actual
god; skeptic54768 believes he is following the actual
god) . Both you and Lukvance are operating under the impression that you have, in fact, actually
found god (i.e. Lukvance believes has found the actual
god; skeptic54768 believes he has found the actual
god) . Now, according to you
, what Lukvance thinks
he has found as god is actually
Satan. Perhaps he has heard the stories regarding popes/bishops worshiping Satan, and, in concert with this rather powerful entity
, their attempts to trick the Catholic laity into thinking they are following, worshiping, and serving the actual god
but are, in fact, being tricked into following, worshiping, and serving
You are correct - Lukvance has made his choice. His choice is to follow god
, but, according to you
, it is very possible
that he thinks
he is actually following god
but is, in fact, not following god
. It is in your
power to aid him in his search for god - it is in your
power to explain to him - to convince
him - that the organization that he belongs to...the organization he supports...the organization that he thinks is an instrument of god
...is, in fact, a very powerful tool of Satan
As far as I know (as he has yet to chime in), Lukvance does not believe that the pope/bishops are being controlled by Satan
. Truth be told I wouldn't count on him having necessarily heard these stories - save for the rare quip I would hear from an evangelical on the TV, I can say that I didn't really hear any stories regarding the pope/bishops being controlled by Satan when I was a practicing Catholic. But even if he had heard the stories...well, let's just say that you've
heard the stories of Allah and Vishnu and you don't seem to buy into those. Perhaps Lukvance doesn't buy your stories regarding Satan-controlled popes for the same reason. Perhaps not. But that would seem strange for Lukvance to want to follow god, know full well that the Catholic church is being controlled by Satan, and still want to belong to the Catholic church
. No, I'll do one better - that wouldn't be strange, that would be mind-bogglingly stupid
. Like, Israelites-building-a-golden-calf-to-worship-after-directly-observing-god's-actions stupid. So you're either calling Lukvance one of the dumbest human beings to have ever existed, a tool amongst the laity for Satan to further his trickery, or you simply don't understand that Lukvance doesn't know
that the leaders of the Catholic church are in concert with Satan.