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Jesus Rocks
« on: May 15, 2014, 11:14:28 AM »
Anybody on FaceBook willing to challenge these individuals on the historicity on the Jesus character?

I have to chuckle when anybody claims to know anything about the alleged person of Jesus.


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Re: Jesus Rocks
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2014, 11:52:39 AM »
Man, they have a hard-on the size of Florida for Bono.
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Re: Jesus Rocks
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2014, 11:56:10 AM »
Ya, glomming onto any celeb who mentions Jesus/God.  Pfft
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Re: Jesus Rocks
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2014, 12:10:58 PM »
Facebook has become so idiotic these days, I wouldn't even know how to send them a comment.

Well, I've inserted my oblique comment on their front page; assuming I know how to even work Facebook, which is not a given.
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Re: Jesus Rocks
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2014, 12:18:33 PM »
Facebook has become so idiotic these days, I wouldn't even know how to send them a comment.

True that.  I just had a "friend" say:  "We just made the ferry - thank you Jesus!"  Colossal stupidity.
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Re: Jesus Rocks
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2014, 12:33:35 PM »
If you can figure out how to engage them on the topic of historicity, ask them who is to be the arbiter of the debate, and how they can verify any of their conclusions. I prefer an arbiter who has, at the outset, a view against theirs. The alternative is that they be the final arbiter of all their statements; in which case I will go and eat pie.
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Re: Jesus Rocks
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2014, 03:55:09 PM »
Do they actually purport to accept the historicity of Jesus?  If I assumed that they mean that Jesus is an exemplary character from literature that people should strive to be like, it doesn't seem to change anything they say regarding Jesus.

I'd wager[1] that if you were to somehow start a conversation with these people, you'd quickly get into "Jesus is real for certain definitions of real" territory and never get out.
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Re: Jesus Rocks
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2014, 04:14:13 PM »
They certainly seem to be promoting far too much love and joy to be left alone. I hope you dampen their fire, but quick.
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Re: Jesus Rocks
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2014, 04:22:37 PM »
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We BELIEVE there is HOPE. As long as the poet writes, the artist paints, the singer sings and the dancer dances, there is HOPE. We the created CREATE, tattooed with the image of the One who is irresistibly drawn in headlong pursuit of us. We are the object of an unquenchable LOVE and cannot help but express that in every LOVE song we write. Whether singing, painting or dancing we overflow with the JOY and WONDER of discovering what real LOVE is. God is MAGNIFICENT...and as His most prized creation and we DISOCVER that LOVE we will be transformed from Glory to Glory.

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From the bolded (and the picture of the church they show) I'd say they are protestant Christians who believe that Jesus is Biblegod (NT), and are Creationist (OT), and they, like many Christians use contradicting statements (don't believe in religion but in "religion of love[1].) to express their point. "Hope" is in place of "Faith" but to them, I feel, means the same thing.

How are they not religious?

This seems to be the new trend lately. Even my mother says she's not religious yet she identifies as Southern Baptist/Baptist and if it were possible she'd go to church every Sunday, and do everything a Christian does in Christianity but believes that Christianity isn't a religion (I think she got that from one of the plethora of Christian books she has) but she believes in Jesus as the son and father.

How is Christianity not a religion?

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Re: Jesus Rocks
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2014, 04:25:49 PM »
^^^  I think it's due to the desire to distance themselves from all of the negativity of "religion".  I still remember the nonsense that was drilled into my mind as a teen - that it's "not a religion, it's a personal relationship with jesus christ".
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Re: Jesus Rocks
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2014, 04:28:53 PM »
^^^  I think it's due to the desire to distance themselves from all of the negativity of "religion".  I still remember the nonsense that was drilled into my mind as a teen - that it's "not a religion, it's a personal relationship with jesus christ".

But the Bible says it's a religion (James 1:25-27; 1 Timothy 5:3-5). Sounds more like they are attempting to distance themselves from the Bible--which is always good.

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Re: Jesus Rocks
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2014, 05:19:48 PM »
Damn.


Before clicking on the link and then on another, if offered, I would have bet at least $10(USD) to win $1(USD) that Bono was not a Christian. I probably would have assumed atheist or deist but not what I just fucking heard.

And this looks like an older Bono. I can't believe it.


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Re: Jesus Rocks
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2014, 05:28:41 PM »
Ya gotta remember that Bono & Co. is  from Ireland, where - forgive me for generalizing Nam - it's kinda Catholic, and that Catholicism is woven into their culture.
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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2014, 05:29:22 PM »
I always had the impression Bono was an egotistical douchebag[1]?

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 1. don't get me wrong, U2 as a whole has some great songs but I'm talking about an individual, not the group though I did like him in "Across the Universe"
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Re: Jesus Rocks
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2014, 06:01:24 PM »
Ya gotta remember that Bono & Co. is  from Ireland, where - forgive me for generalizing Nam - it's kinda Catholic, and that Catholicism is woven into their culture.

Not only that, he's a rock n roll musician, and we all know they just go with the flow, not questioning the world they grow up in.
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« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2014, 06:07:44 PM »
Not only that, he's a rock n roll musician, and we all know they just go with the flow, not questioning the world they grow up in.

How dare you generalize all Rock 'n Roll musicians!

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Re: Jesus Rocks
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2014, 11:52:19 PM »
They certainly seem to be promoting far too much love and joy to be left alone. I hope you dampen their fire, but quick.

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Re: Jesus Rocks
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2014, 12:14:41 AM »
Well if you meet one of those people in the street I sure you hope bail them up and tell them you disagree with their views. In a severe tone of voice preferably.

That's assuming you get out much.
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Re: Jesus Rocks
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2014, 12:40:34 AM »
Well if you meet one of those people in the street I sure you hope bail them up and tell them you disagree with their views. In a severe tone of voice preferably.

There is a difference between forum and blog comments and real life, Giles, I hope you realise that.
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Re: Jesus Rocks
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2014, 02:02:28 AM »
I always had the impression Bono was an egotistical douchebag[1]?

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 1. don't get me wrong, U2 as a whole has some great songs but I'm talking about an individual, not the group though I did like him in "Across the Universe"

There's a story, that when U2 were playing in Edinburgh Bono gave a little speech before the gig started. He began clapping his hands in a slow rhythm and said "Every time I clap my hands a child in Africa dies."

A lone Scottish voice from the audience shouted back; "Well stop f*cking doing it then..."
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