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And xians say they don't want a theocracy...
« on: May 14, 2014, 12:32:34 PM »
sure, many do not.  But then they need to get off their buns and do something about these dominionist lunatics who are trying to take over the country.

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Re: And xians say they don't want a theocracy...
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2014, 12:43:40 PM »
Either kick them out or get out of the USA while you can. Because, otherwise, you won't be alive for much longer. If not you, your descendants.
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Re: And xians say they don't want a theocracy...
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2014, 12:50:42 PM »
That's more than a little bit disturbing.  What happens if, for example, these people eventually become judges who get to decide cases?  What happens if a majority on the Supreme Court end up being Blackstone Fellows who believe that laws should be based on the Bible rather than American legal precedents?

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Re: And xians say they don't want a theocracy...
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2014, 03:28:24 PM »
I wonder--where will our Second Amendment fans come down on this one?
Extraordinary claims of the bible don't even have ordinary evidence.

Kids aren't paying attention most of the time in science classes so it seems silly to get worked up over ID being taught in schools.

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Re: And xians say they don't want a theocracy...
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2014, 03:53:49 PM »
I figured they already thought we had a theocracy. With all the crying they do about how America is a Christian nation! And how not being allowed to discriminate against gay people is an attack on them... somehow.

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Re: And xians say they don't want a theocracy...
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2014, 04:00:08 PM »
Is skeptic a member?

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Re: And xians say they don't want a theocracy...
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2014, 04:38:53 PM »
Either kick them out or get out of the USA while you can. Because, otherwise, you won't be alive for much longer. If not you, your descendants.

I only browsed the article, but didn't see any mention of the death penalty being used beyond its current use. How are lives at risk?
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Re: And xians say they don't want a theocracy...
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2014, 06:00:20 PM »
I only browsed the article, but didn't see any mention of the death penalty being used beyond its current use. How are lives at risk?

I take it you've never been in a theocracy or studied one. Anyone who dares be different (not believe in exactly what everyone else supposedly believes and behave exactly the way everyone else behaves in public) is either brainwashed (usually through torture), imprisoned, or killed.
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Re: And xians say they don't want a theocracy...
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2014, 06:07:33 PM »
The article implies nothing so extreme as all that. Hell, maybe they'd even remove the right to bear arms.

But if any of you Americans do wish to flee, Australia has a lot of empty space. We're even getting fast internet soon.
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Re: And xians say they don't want a theocracy...
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2014, 06:43:10 PM »
The article implies nothing so extreme as all that.

It implies a theocracy. That's extreme enough.

Hell, maybe they'd even remove the right to bear arms.

Ever met a christian who wanted a theocracy and also wanted to take away his/her own freedom to do whatever he/she felt like? Theocrats (possibly not a real word, but I think the meaning is clear) just want to take away others' rights. Their own rights must remain untouched.
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Re: And xians say they don't want a theocracy...
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2014, 10:01:02 PM »
In Islamic theocracies where alcohol is strictly forbidden, there are fancy violin cases adapted for carrying pricey bottles of contraband Jack Daniels. Because rules are only for the little people.

In the book A Handmaid's Tale, the perfect godly Christian theocracy of the future was sitting on top of an underclass made up of the "sinful" people-- drug dealers, prostitutes and so forth who provided all the things that were still in demand by the holier-than-the-rest, although outlawed by the new religious government. There is a lot of factual evidence that a US theocracy would just be a cover for hidden pits of extra-crispy vice and degradation.

Already we know that adding lots of religion does not make a society better, because religion relies on unscientific and irrational ancient beliefs about human nature. Instead of testing out programs and implementing the ones that are the most effective at helping people overall, regardless of their religion or lack thereof, "faith-based" programs at best put a bandaid on the problem and lay the blame for failures on individual "sin".

We see this played out comparing regions of the US.  The places with the highest reported levels of religious belief[1] have the most serious social problems: more domestic abuse, teen pregnancy, poverty, unemployment, family breakup and people on public assistance. They are also the places with the highest consumption of internet dirty videos (the site won't let me use the four letter word starting with "p") and are the fastest growing areas for meth labs and other types of misbehavior.

The numbers do not bode well. Increased religiosity in government tend to make a society worse off, not better. Notice how many Nobel prizes have been awarded for innovative research lately from places like Iran and Afghanistan-- countries that went from secular (although dictatorships) to fundy (and still dictatorships) during the past 30 years. .....Iraq, Indonesia and Nigeria look like they headed in the same awful direction.
 1. where local governments have been trying "faith-based" stuff like "abstinence sex ed", trying to "cure" gay teenagers, and replacing public services with private religious programs
Extraordinary claims of the bible don't even have ordinary evidence.

Kids aren't paying attention most of the time in science classes so it seems silly to get worked up over ID being taught in schools.

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Re: And xians say they don't want a theocracy...
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2014, 06:59:16 AM »
^Islamic theocracies usually would just stone the gay teenagers, and then deny homosexuality even exists. Which is sort of ironic seeing how by their own denial they stoned innocent children.

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Re: And xians say they don't want a theocracy...
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2014, 07:32:22 AM »
Islamic theocracies also Force sex changes for LGBT.

How these retards wrap their heads around that…. Barbaric.


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Re: And xians say they don't want a theocracy...
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2014, 11:16:12 AM »
more religious kooks in government are having effects:
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/scott-walker-investigation-stayed-051414

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Re: And xians say they don't want a theocracy...
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2014, 01:18:30 PM »
more religious kooks in government are having effects:
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/scott-walker-investigation-stayed-051414



Yeah but they're doing it for the money, the religious antics are just bonuses.

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Re: And xians say they don't want a theocracy...
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2014, 02:35:36 PM »
I keep waiting for the religious (anti-gay anti-everything-modern, waiting for the rapture) nutjob wing of the Republicans to wake up and realize they are being played by the (1%-anti-regulation anti-help-the-poor) conniving greedy money wing. The greedy money wing cannot win elections because most people hate them and they don't have the numbers. 

So they pander to the conservative religious folks, pretending to care about liberals, gays and abortion to get their support. All the while knowing that any restrictions on marijuana, gay rights or abortion will be easily overcome with money if they themselves want to get around the law.

But since the greedy money wing is composed of the smarter people in the party, the waking up, like the rapture, may never happen. :-\
Extraordinary claims of the bible don't even have ordinary evidence.

Kids aren't paying attention most of the time in science classes so it seems silly to get worked up over ID being taught in schools.

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Re: And xians say they don't want a theocracy...
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2014, 03:23:29 PM »
I keep waiting for the religious (anti-gay anti-everything-modern, waiting for the rapture) nutjob wing of the Republicans to wake up and realize they are being played by the (1%-anti-regulation anti-help-the-poor) conniving greedy money wing. The greedy money wing cannot win elections because most people hate them and they don't have the numbers. 

Yeah, but those who vote for those nutjobs are usually uneducated, poor to middle class, white, and in deep red states that place religion[1] before everything else

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So they pander to the conservative religious folks, pretending to care about liberals, gays and abortion to get their support. All the while knowing that any restrictions on marijuana, gay rights or abortion will be easily overcome with money if they themselves want to get around the law.

Or, like in many red states ignore the law all together yet still chant that they are for the Constitution that have many such laws.

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But since the greedy money wing is composed of the smarter people in the party, the waking up, like the rapture, may never happen. :-\

Conniving does not denote intelligence.

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