"Yes Space Time was always around. The big bang theory prove that."
No it does not. You have it all wrong. The Big Bang points towards an event that created/made Space and Time. That's why it's called a Big Bang...a bang happened, and stuff came from it. (Simple terms).
I am the one saying we should not try and claim the what happened "Before" the big bang, because it is where physics break down, and a singularity exists. You are seriously putting words in my mouth. I would appreciate if you stopped. "Which I translated by 'I don't know what I'm saying'"
Really? Really? So because I am trying to be mature and point out that yes, this is something I don't know, and neither do you, I don't know what I'm saying? Nice logic.
Do you know what 'unsubtantiated' means? If I start making those kinds of claims about the "before", I would be no better than the people who say "Godidit"."Which mean you created the concept of love..."
My body labeled a perception of a chemical process in my head as "love".
Where did I expressly say Love was not around before I perceived it in my own head? No where. "Which mean you did NOT created the concept of love (because your parents had it before you did)"
Labeled =/= Created. There you go again, redefining words.
I created the concept of love in myself, in my brain, after I was born (if you really want to use the word "created"). Now stop talking about love and get to the point."God is everything"
? Evidence, please.
I have given you far too much ground by saying "For the sake of the argument..."
Evidence. Please. "So, again, how is that restraining?"
I'll say it for about the 5th time. You have claimed in the past that your God exists outside of Time and Space.
Then you agreed with me that "God is not outside of time and space".
I let this change of thoughts go unquestioned. But you need to consider this:
The Big Bang made Time and Space. It is fundamental in the theory (Which you seriously need to relearn).
Since now you say your God exists outside of Time and Space, it turns into this:
Your God did not exist "Before" the Big Bang. Since there was no Time and Space to accomodate him, he did not exist. If he did not exist, he could not create Time and Space, like you claim he did (Fallaciously).
You also state that your God is eternal.
Something eternal is not created! And since you now state Space Time was once created, and God can only exist in Space time, he had to have been somehow "created" when Space TIme was also created.
Therefore your God, by your own agreement to my "Exist only in Space Time", is not eternal, and if he is not eternal, he is not God. Meaning, he might as well not exist, since he by definition is no longer what you say he is.Please Read this ^^ ^paragraph^ ^^, it is absolutely essential.
This is what I have been trying to tell you."Yes."
You are wrong. It happens in Space and Time; it exists. They have been proven to exist. Want an experiment? Blink your eye. That's an action."When you don't have a brain."
If there is the ocean, and the sun in the distance, the sun's radiations acts on the water.
The action is labeled as evaporation. No need for brains anywhere. "No, it's inexistent."
See above."No. There is nothing else than Space and Time."
Yes, and that is why actions occur in Space Time. Because they exist."So yes, he created everything."
Space Time was not always around. Big Bang theory supports this. You know, Big Bang, the one you completely misinterpreted?
Since Space TIme was not always around, God, who can exist only in Space Time, was not always around.
Meaning he did not create Space and Time, which is part of "everything", because he could only exist once it had been made in the Big Bang. How could he have existed before having Space and TIme to exist in? Your agreement with me then supports this statement: He did not create Everything, because he did not exist, as Space and time, a part of everything, were not around to allow him to exist and create Everything."My exist let room for something outside time and space. Yours don't."
You have already agreed that existance only occurs in Space and Time. There is no "Outside" Space and Time. Therefore, the above statement is trashed. You now can only use "exist" when its definition is what we agreed to; inside of TIme and Space.