It was my impression that this is not an atheistic website. It is a website that asks, "Why won't God heal amputees?" This is INVITING theists here to explain.
I think it gives a chance for theists to explain what it is about religion that convinces them that its basic tenet “There is a god and that God is the Judeo-Christian one, Who has the interests of humanity at His core.” in the face of evidence to the contrary.
This can be expanded by reference to what is known about the concept of God and how what is known equates with what we actually know about society and the world.
The website from which the majority arrive has videos that present a good case against there being a god of any sort at all.
But, suppose it was a purely atheistic website just for atheists to gather. Well, we have a demand by Jesus to go and make disciples of all people. We are commanded to share the faith and get people to believe and experience the joys of Heaven.
I do hope you are not trying to have us “experience the joys of Heaven
”, as I understand it, that is only possible when one is dead.
Atheists have no command by anyone to force Christians to be atheists, so that is why I wonder why they do it.
Well, first of all I could issue the command with as much authority as your command was given but your argument is a little confused. I assume that although the OT does approve of forced conversion, the NT seems to reject this approach in place of persuasion – the carrot and the stick, so you are not forcing anyone to do anything, and neither are we.
Atheists are just like many other humans and animals: they see one of their kind struggling and feel as if they should help. We want people to take on a reasonable breadth of thinking. We find that society is far from perfect and what holds it back must be lack of knowledge.
You cannot have lived your life so far without having heard someone say, “We are looking for a cure for <insert some terrible disease>” or “We are hoping to find a solution to the crisis in <insert country>”or “If we knew out history and more about ourselves, we would be able to operate better.”
We atheists, who contribute here and on other sites, may not have the immediate answer to either. However, it is those dogmatic Christians, such as yourself, whose first reaction to cures and solutions always involves your God – a god for whom all evidence is lacking.
In Christian theory, we get what we deserved at the hands of a God we do not and cannot understand and should hold the belief that whatever happens is the will of that god who has our interests at heart.
Over the millennia, we have given that god every chance to provide the cure for this or that disease and to resolve the crisis in this or that country. We atheists really do want these solutions. However, those of the dogmatic Christian mindset would have us reject and oppose solutions that occurred after the 17th century and instead
, rely upon prayers to a god for whom, by our experience, all evidence of his presence is lacking. We have concluded: the best we could say is that if there is a God, then He lost interest in us immediately after creation as He has not helped us at all.
Now, if, like the Amish, you reject the modern world and live a life independent of it, then that is fine. You can believe what you want. However, there is some hypocrisy in rejecting the parts of useful knowledge that you do not like (or you think your god does not like) and telling others to reject it too. If what you want to do is to make all of society revert to 17th century thought and knowledge, then you are doing a disservice to all of mankind in the name of a god for whom there is no evidence: we see this as wrong.
Think of the structure of any Church: is a theocracy what you really want? Do you want, for example, to be governed absolutely by the pope, or the head shaman of the Mormons? These people believe that they have the answers to life, the universe and everything and that answer is “God”. They don’t need your consent and their god will fix everything without the need for man to interfere or progress or know any more than he did 400 years ago.
Indeed, should you oppose a theocracy, you become "An Enemy of God." and are punished - that always happens.
Religious fanatics and unthinking, whilst their power is small in number, are not a problem: a liberal society copes with the broadest spectrum of different thought, and that is fine. But like Iran, Yemen, Saudi, etc. one size (my size) fits all does not work and never has.
As I am not American, I can say that the world is dismayed by the power that the religious wield in the US, and as America is a world power, this now affects us all. It is people like you who believe you have the answers, and you worry us. It is clear that you do not have the answers, but By God! You are convinced you do... and convinced without evidence, thought or logic.
It is clear that you do not even ask the questions necessary to solve problems: you explain success by your God (“You had faith.”) and failure by your God (“You did not have faith.”) You explain good fortune by your God (“It was a miracle he was saved!”) and disaster by your God (“God punished him.” or “God is testing his faith!” or “God does not give us more than we can bear.” And “God is strengthening his character!” and "It was his time!")
I do wonder why, if they truly believe this is the only life we get, that they spend every day arguing with theists about something they don't even think exists instead of getting out there and enjoying life.
Typically, you do not think beyond the obvious. As you are commanded to spread darkness and ignorance; we serve society by moderating your influence. If you were not there, we would not be either.
For example, I don't believe in alien abductions. But, I will never go on an alien forum where people talk about that stuff and believe that stuff because it would be a waste of my time. What would I get out of going there and arguing with them about how I think aliens aren't real?
If a group of alien abductionists started to have a massive influence in the running of your life: telling you what you can do and what you can’t do. How your children will be brought up and how your life will be conducted and how they will do your thinking for you, what would be your reaction? Might you start a site to combat this ignorance? Might you contribute?