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Do you fear death?

I'm an atheist and I fear death.
I'm a theist and I fear death.
I'm an atheist and I do not fear death.
I'm a theist and I do not fear death.
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Do you fear death?
« on: April 15, 2014, 04:58:53 AM »
Do you fear death? Do you fear that dark abyss? All your deeds laid bare; all your sins punished.[1]

To be clear: this is about your death; not the death of your loved ones. I included the "other" option as usual, although I can't imagine how someone can think up a fifth option to this question.
It's a "yes or no"-type question, FFS, with a religious view modifier, which in itself is also a binary thing, adding up to four possible answers... but whatever.
 1. Reference to "Pirates of the Caribbean: The Dead Man's Chest", as well as a serious question. The last sentence is intended for theists, while the second sentence is intended for atheists, but purely metaphorical. The first sentence applies to all.
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Re: Do you fear death?
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2014, 05:14:14 AM »
I'm an atheist and I do not fear death.

This is distinct from living and avoiding death. I'd be terrified to be in a World War One trench, bayonets fixed, waiting for the whistle to go over the top. But as far as dying after a long life in my old age; no. Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer to live for a thousand years in health, but when a natural death comes I don't fear returning to the state I was in before birth.
When death inevitable approaches me, I will console myself that I will live on in the flesh of my children and the memories of my loved ones.

I thought Richard Dawkins made a very eloquent quote about this;

“We are going to die, and that makes us the lucky ones. Most people are never going to die because they are never going to be born. The potential people who could have been here in my place but who will in fact never see the light of day outnumber the sand grains of Arabia. Certainly those unborn ghosts include greater poets than Keats, scientists greater than Newton. We know this because the set of possible people allowed by our DNA so massively exceeds the set of actual people. In the teeth of these stupefying odds it is you and I, in our ordinariness, that are here.We privileged few, who won the lottery of birth against all odds, how dare we whine at our inevitable return to that prior state from which the vast majority have never stirred?”
Matthew 10:22 "and you will be hated by all for my name’s sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved." - An example of a clearly demonstrably false biblical 'prophesy'.

The biblical myth of a 6000 year old Earth is proven false by the Gaia satellite directly measuring star age.

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Re: Do you fear death?
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2014, 05:20:12 AM »
I voted other cos i am both anxious and excited. i fear the act of dieing cos i think it will hurt like fuk. i fear mostly getting to the point my mind and body is in such decay i will have dementia and forgotten my life and will be bed ridden with some nurse feeding me baby food and wiping my ass. that's gotta suk big time.

i am excited cos if some part of me lives on in a conscious state i will have a lot of mysteries answered.


what i really fear is being buried alive and coming to 6 feet under inside a coffin.

I also fear dieing like a little bitch crying for more life and not going out like the awesome dude i think i am.



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Re: Do you fear death?
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2014, 05:22:15 AM »
"Anticipation of death is worse than death itself."

"Death smiles at us all, all a man can do is smile back."

I don't fear death as it's an inevitability. What I do worry about is how I'm going to die. I'd like it to be quietly in my sleep.... or powersliding at 200mph in an F Type fireball please.
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Re: Do you fear death?
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2014, 05:49:15 AM »
I've requested that after I die, I'm laid out on a beach and the Army should carry out a controlled explosion on me.
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Re: Do you fear death?
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2014, 05:54:06 AM »
I want to be attacked and eaten by wild predators just sounds noble.
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Re: Do you fear death?
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2014, 05:55:51 AM »
I want to be attacked and eaten by wild predators just sounds noble.

Humans have no natural predators. I doubt you could get an animal to eat you unless it was hungry and/or a vulture.
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Re: Do you fear death?
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2014, 06:17:58 AM »
I have been in a situation where I thought I had only hours left to live. I learned that not all deaths are equally frightening. Now I am worried that I am not afraid of death enough. I am worried that I might do something stupid when I visit a country ruled by a dictator, for example.
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Re: Do you fear death?
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2014, 06:37:44 AM »
I've requested that after I die, I'm laid out on a beach and the Army should carry out a controlled explosion on me.

I want to be attacked and eaten by wild predators just sounds noble.

I'm to be stuffed and used as a hat stand.
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Re: Do you fear death?
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2014, 06:50:01 AM »
I've been done with this crap for years.  Oblivion sounds great.

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Re: Do you fear death?
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2014, 06:50:30 AM »
I fear death in the way of dying young. If I am 80 though, I will not be scared of death. All good things come to an end. That is why life is so beautiful. I also do not have to worry about going to heaven or hell...which is comforting.  :laugh:
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Re: Do you fear death?
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2014, 06:51:35 AM »
High explosives placed internally and shot out of a rocket in space with a good view of earth.
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Re: Do you fear death?
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2014, 06:59:44 AM »
Stripped naked and dropped into fierce storm on a pitch black night in the coldest, remotest part of the north pole and see how far i could walk in a straight line.
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Re: Do you fear death?
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2014, 07:44:06 AM »
Being afraid of death has saved my life on many occasions.  I'm not afraid of afterlife it's the pain of dying that scares the hell right out of me.  I'm afraid of the sadness my loved ones will have to bare.

Sometimes I am just as afraid to live.
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Re: Do you fear death?
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2014, 10:30:12 AM »
The idea that my consciousness will cease is an idea I hate and perhaps fear (In addition, I loathe aging and some of the other contraints of the human experience). I exist, I'm human, (though I wish I were more), and I am self aware, therefore vanity is my partner. Too me, my existence IS everything and I can't imagine a world without it. I long to survive and to thrive within the realm of my existence until I am able to reach its limits. Until that happens, I feel like having my conscious existence terminated is terribly unfulfilling and in many ways makes existence a waist. 
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Re: Do you fear death?
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2014, 10:44:49 AM »
I am afraid of oblivion, but only if I stop and dwell on it.

It's the notion that one day I will no longer being self-aware; that everything that makes me me (my memories, my personality) will simply cease to exist from my perspective. I also would hate to die before we finally find definitive proof of life on other planets.

I am not ashamed to admit that I do envy theists when it comes to believing in an afterlife, but only in a wishful thinking capacity.

OT: I had typed my post before reading yours... we seem to have very similar feelings on the subject.
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Re: Do you fear death?
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2014, 07:35:54 PM »
I'm not afraid of being dead but everything leading up to it especially if I die through violence or through horrible accident (which are two of my biggest fears).  Basically, I'm afraid of the fear.  Plus, I don't want to die while my kid is still a kid (she is only eight years old and I am 52 so it is possible).  I would like to live long enough to see her grown up and independent.

Death itself, I don't see too much to be afraid of since I won't be aware of it.  Basically, death doesn't really exist for those who are dead.

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Re: Do you fear death?
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2014, 07:42:31 PM »
Fear stops you kissing rattle snakes, it is a survival instinct .
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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2014, 08:22:08 PM »
As an athiest, I fear death, simply because I haven't fully lived and because...im human.
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Re: Do you fear death?
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2014, 08:34:08 PM »
Is there a distinction between missing out on life and fearing how yr death will occur and what might happen while dead?
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« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2014, 09:24:26 PM »
Is there a distinction between missing out on life and fearing how yr death will occur and what might happen while dead?

Yes. The former would be lamenting over what might have been (probably), while the later is lamenting what will be (certainty): i.e. Oblivion.

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Re: Do you fear death?
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2014, 10:45:57 PM »
go out on some fuked up new experimental hallucinogenic organic molecule drip fed  straight onto the brain surface.
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Re: Do you fear death?
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2014, 11:22:01 PM »
The sunny side of oblivion:  There is no pondering of either life, loss or for that matter, oblivion.  It's not a state of being.  It is instead, a complete eradication of one's entire self; no worry, no loss, no regret.  No anything.

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« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2014, 11:30:25 PM »
The sunny side of oblivion:  There is no pondering of either life, loss or for that matter, oblivion.


 It's not a state of being.  It is instead, a complete eradication of one's entire self; no worry, no loss, no regret.  No anything.

isn't that logically self-refuting, the first claim sets a condition, the second claim actually describes a specific mode of existence?
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Re: Do you fear death?
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2014, 12:31:46 AM »
The sunny side of oblivion:  There is no pondering of either life, loss or for that matter, oblivion.


 It's not a state of being.  It is instead, a complete eradication of one's entire self; no worry, no loss, no regret.  No anything.

isn't that logically self-refuting, the first claim sets a condition, the second claim actually describes a specific mode of existence?

Aren't you being kind of a nitpicking prig?

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Re: Do you fear death?
« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2014, 05:42:44 AM »
I'm an atheist and I do not fear death.

I am pretty sure that my death will result in me no  longer existing anywhere. I imagine it will be like be anaesthetised before an operation but, of course, no waking up. So death itself is no concern to me. What bothers me more is the manner of my death - i.e. what will I have to put up with before I die. Some are lucky and just drop dead from heart attacks while other linger ling and painfully with cancer.

As I reach 65 years old already this year I imagine I am closer to this topic that most on the forum but aside from the manner of dying, I am quite unperturbed by death coming along. I wonder if the 'Terry Pratchett type Death' will be involved?
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« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2014, 08:56:11 AM »
I'm an atheist and I do not fear death.

I am pretty sure that my death will result in me no  longer existing anywhere. I imagine it will be like be anaesthetised before an operation but, of course, no waking up. So death itself is no concern to me. What bothers me more is the manner of my death - i.e. what will I have to put up with before I die. Some are lucky and just drop dead from heart attacks while other linger ling and painfully with cancer.

As I reach 65 years old already this year I imagine I am closer to this topic that most on the forum but aside from the manner of dying, I am quite unperturbed by death coming along. I wonder if the 'Terry Pratchett type Death' will be involved?

I call hogwash here.  The question is not; do you fear afterlife?  It is; do you fear death?  You are afraid of the act of dying.  I saw my brother, mother, father, aunts, uncles, all die.  Yes I am a theist and I do fear the pain and agony of death.  I do NOT fear what comes after if anything.  I do not fear simply being dead.  I do not fear God; that's not because I am a christian, I have not lived by the book, I trust that if there is a God it is not that cruel.

The fear of dying keeps us all alive until we die.  The pain helps us to embrace it. 
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« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2014, 06:23:38 PM »
Afterlife, Junebug?
You don't remember what it was like before you were born, correct? Why would it be different after you die?
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Re: Do you fear death?
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2014, 10:02:32 PM »
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No. But it has nothing to do at all with being an atheist.

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