And Lukvance skillfully avoids addressing points that contradict him. Like this:
1) god will not violate anyone's free will, even if the person is doing horrible things to others (as per Lukvance in numerous posts)
2) god will not appear to anyone who does not already want to know about him (as per #1 above)
3) god will not appear to anyone who is full of sin (as per Lukvance)
4) pay no attention to the many times 1, 2 and 3 are contradicted in the OT, because those are all myths and parables.
In addition, 5) god does not physically manifest in the world, but only acts indirectly through other people who already accept god.Lukvance, what about Saul/Paul?
His conversion is pretty much the basis of the Catholic faith.
Saul got a sure-fire direct, physical visit from god that knocked him onto his a$$ and changed his entire life around. This story is about the most blatant violation of #1 imaginable. It is from the NT, ie is not a myth and does not conflict with #4. Saul was a sinner who persecuted the followers of Jesus, which would definitely fit #3. Given #3, Saul would definitely not want to know about god, so that takes care of #2.
So, Lukvance, did god violate Saul's free will or not
? Yes or no?
Before you answer, consider carefully what answering means:Yes
means you have to take back nearly everything you have said here. No
means you have just contradicted everything you have said here.
So, which is it?
If you try to weasel out of answering by making something up that is not in the bible story-- say that Saul secretly did want to know god, and was only persecuting Christian people as a cover story-- Jesus will weep for you soul
Prepare the UPS box for Lukvance, folks. Cue special pleading.